| 161. So far all I've seen |
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is supposition innuendo and false hopes. When the proof hits the fan wake me up. Till then, It's bedtime.
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| -HEADS THE F*** UP: TRIAD SCANDAL IN THE NEW YORK TIMES |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-14-04 10:12 PM |
#0 |
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GREAT!!!!!!!! nt |
Karenca |
Dec-14-04 10:13 PM |
#1 |
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The KEY PARAGRAPH in the article. |
autorank |
Dec-14-04 10:42 PM |
#69 |
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Oh, hallelujah! Thanks WRP for this news from on high. Much needed. |
jamboi |
Dec-14-04 10:46 PM |
#75 |
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Your'e absolutely right, but not for the reason you think. n/t |
godel escher bach |
Dec-15-04 01:24 AM |
#183 |
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OK, that's a cryptic response, I'll bite |
Razorback_Democrat |
Dec-15-04 07:41 AM |
#206 |
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Hell if I know, I must have been drunk when I wrote that. |
godel escher bach |
Dec-15-04 11:45 PM |
#216 |
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Is E-Voting ME-Voting? Prove it! |
Higans |
Dec-14-04 11:11 PM |
#105 |
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Here it comes!! |
rockedthevoteinMA |
Dec-14-04 10:13 PM |
#2 |
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Holy Sh*T Batman |
Pithy Cherub |
Dec-14-04 10:13 PM |
#3 |
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So was there any consensus on the dKos article |
StClone |
Dec-14-04 10:18 PM |
#22 |
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it's plausible, and the only... |
godel escher bach |
Dec-14-04 11:45 PM |
#142 |
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StClone - someone posted this in LBN in response to this article |
rockedthevoteinMA |
Dec-15-04 12:37 AM |
#173 |
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Isn't this another really good reason why we need a HAND recount? |
Amaryllis |
Dec-15-04 12:46 AM |
#178 |
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Yes, but "no discrepancies were found." And hasn't this already... |
ClintCooper2003 |
Dec-14-04 10:14 PM |
#4 |
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I agree. I see nothing to get excited about. |
godel escher bach |
Dec-14-04 11:26 PM |
#121 |
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Sorry to disillusion you, but I'm not disappointed anymore |
marylanddem |
Dec-14-04 11:30 PM |
#125 |
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I think that's great. Carry on n/t |
godel escher bach |
Dec-14-04 11:47 PM |
#147 |
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"Can you smell what The Times is Cooking" .... FINALLY |
autorank |
Dec-14-04 10:14 PM |
#5 |
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Are you |
Patsy Stone |
Dec-14-04 10:15 PM |
#12 |
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Another denizen in the depths of the human comedy! |
autorank |
Dec-14-04 10:19 PM |
#26 |
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Good grief, that man is a sure fire looker! n/t |
TexasChick |
Dec-14-04 10:21 PM |
#30 |
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Hate to disappoint you two but that's actually me in my Rock suit! |
autorank |
Dec-14-04 10:54 PM |
#85 |
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Nuh..uh...that's the Rock! Stop yanking my chains. LOL! n/t |
TexasChick |
Dec-14-04 11:00 PM |
#92 |
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I am not ashamed |
Patsy Stone |
Dec-14-04 10:21 PM |
#31 |
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OK... I'm Southern... I really am! |
Clark2008 |
Dec-15-04 12:26 AM |
#167 |
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Olbermann is mine!! |
Starlight |
Dec-15-04 12:43 AM |
#176 |
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Wrassler, actor, star |
Patsy Stone |
Dec-15-04 05:15 PM |
#214 |
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jesus keeechrist |
loritooker |
Dec-14-04 11:46 PM |
#145 |
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Where else can you get dialog like this? Passionate, straight forward. |
autorank |
Dec-15-04 10:37 PM |
#215 |
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Wow! I wonder if any Triad reps were in Warren County this week |
lizzieforkerry |
Dec-14-04 10:14 PM |
#6 |
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That is very, very special... |
Patsy Stone |
Dec-14-04 10:14 PM |
# |
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As usual, Will... |
ClassWarrior |
Dec-14-04 10:14 PM |
#7 |
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??? |
BoomerSoonerOKU |
Dec-14-04 10:15 PM |
#8 |
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Question is, |
Carolab |
Dec-14-04 10:27 PM |
#49 |
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Sounds like... |
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf |
Dec-14-04 10:15 PM |
#9 |
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LOL that is FUNNY!!! |
proudtobeadem |
Dec-14-04 10:53 PM |
#83 |
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Thank you Will! Is our train finally leaving the station? n/t |
bear425 |
Dec-14-04 10:15 PM |
#10 |
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A lot of us are still boarding it! |
BrotherBuzz |
Dec-14-04 10:31 PM |
#58 |
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Geez, Louise! Great find, Will! |
TexasChick |
Dec-14-04 10:15 PM |
#11 |
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WOW! My spirit just lifted miles up, thank you! now I need to go run |
freeplessinseattle |
Dec-14-04 10:15 PM |
#13 |
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"Run Freepless... Run!" |
Dr_eldritch |
Dec-14-04 10:16 PM |
#16 |
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"You are (all) the wind beneath my wings" lol! I feel goo-od! (nt) |
freeplessinseattle |
Dec-14-04 11:01 PM |
#95 |
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This is a start... |
Dr_eldritch |
Dec-14-04 10:15 PM |
#14 |
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It finally went main stream |
AmerDem |
Dec-14-04 10:15 PM |
#15 |
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Thanks, William!!! |
sepia_steel |
Dec-14-04 10:17 PM |
#18 |
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"I've been doing this since 1985," he whined. |
enough |
Dec-14-04 10:17 PM |
#17 |
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Uh, well, gee, Mr. Rapp, do you think that the reason you got any |
TexasChick |
Dec-14-04 10:23 PM |
#38 |
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I smell a new Triad slogan... |
ClassWarrior |
Dec-14-04 10:26 PM |
#47 |
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ROLF!! OMG, ClassWarrior! That one had me on the floor!! n/t |
TexasChick |
Dec-14-04 10:29 PM |
#54 |
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Class Warrior truer words were never spoken |
goclark |
Dec-14-04 11:47 PM |
#146 |
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Can an IT person say or guess what is meant by 'preparing' the |
higher class |
Dec-14-04 10:27 PM |
#51 |
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Zeroing counters. |
Virginian |
Dec-14-04 11:38 PM |
#135 |
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At least someone is asking the pertinent questions n/t |
godel escher bach |
Dec-15-04 12:26 AM |
#168 |
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Gee, that makes me feel better... not! n/t |
jamboi |
Dec-14-04 11:00 PM |
#93 |
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I know |
Patsy Stone |
Dec-14-04 11:32 PM |
#129 |
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"I am not a crook" |
Kellis |
Dec-15-04 02:09 AM |
#186 |
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I,ve been doing this since 1985... |
catnhatnh |
Dec-15-04 11:33 AM |
#210 |
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Thank you MR CONYERS!!! And thank you WillPITT for reporting! n/t |
Verve |
Dec-14-04 10:17 PM |
#19 |
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WOW |
Scout1071 |
Dec-14-04 10:18 PM |
#20 |
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Cool! He's wrote a NYT article on BBV in September n/t |
VTGold |
Dec-14-04 10:18 PM |
#21 |
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Someone's got some splaining to do! |
merh |
Dec-14-04 10:18 PM |
#23 |
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you know if this is the beginning... |
Slit Skirt |
Dec-14-04 10:18 PM |
#24 |
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Thanks to all you Patriots |
seito |
Dec-14-04 10:21 PM |
#29 |
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The Beginning--You are All Great! nt |
anitar1 |
Dec-14-04 10:23 PM |
#37 |
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DU keeps me sane |
marylanddem |
Dec-14-04 11:23 PM |
#118 |
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They need an expert |
BeFree |
Dec-14-04 10:19 PM |
#25 |
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Question: I remember Kerry's letter stating something to the effect of |
TexasChick |
Dec-14-04 10:26 PM |
#45 |
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Actually, I believe that it is highly inappropriate, if not illegal, |
merh |
Dec-14-04 10:26 PM |
#46 |
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Time to GO,GO ,GO with this!! |
Quakerfriend |
Dec-14-04 10:26 PM |
#48 |
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no shit |
proud patriot |
Dec-14-04 10:20 PM |
#27 |
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I don't normally say this..but w00000t |
ccarter84 |
Dec-14-04 10:21 PM |
#28 |
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Conyers and Co. need to get a list of all Triad techs... |
Dr_eldritch |
Dec-14-04 10:22 PM |
#32 |
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Good idea. |
Stand and Fight |
Dec-14-04 11:08 PM |
#101 |
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Thanks! got that address? |
Dr_eldritch |
Dec-14-04 11:29 PM |
#124 |
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Every damn machine under lock and key AND video camera. n/t |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Dec-14-04 11:42 PM |
#140 |
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That's more the fuck like it! |
crispini |
Dec-14-04 10:22 PM |
#33 |
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Are the comments about posting numbers on the wall (?), etc. |
Pirate Smile |
Dec-14-04 10:22 PM |
#34 |
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I believe it's in the writer's "Among other things" part lol |
sunnystarr |
Dec-14-04 10:47 PM |
#76 |
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That's what I was wondering. Sounds almost exactly the same MO |
WritersBlock |
Dec-14-04 10:47 PM |
#77 |
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Wonder how many Ohio counties/precincts |
marylanddem |
Dec-14-04 10:22 PM |
#35 |
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Seems that in the Daily Kos article |
shraby |
Dec-14-04 10:26 PM |
#43 |
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Thanks! |
marylanddem |
Dec-14-04 10:31 PM |
#57 |
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Yes, and they also gave what sounds... |
godel escher bach |
Dec-14-04 11:53 PM |
#155 |
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See Post #82 for a map of Triad GSI Voting Systems OH Counties |
autorank |
Dec-14-04 10:56 PM |
#88 |
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*BIG-SMILE* |
Kellis |
Dec-14-04 10:22 PM |
#36 |
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Thanks Will |
intelle |
Dec-14-04 10:24 PM |
#39 |
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Okay people - fire up those media blasters!! |
ClassWarrior |
Dec-14-04 10:24 PM |
#40 |
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HOLD A BIT |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-14-04 10:25 PM |
#42 |
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Sounds good. |
ClassWarrior |
Dec-14-04 10:29 PM |
#53 |
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Thanks so much for the update Will! n/t |
Sydnie |
Dec-14-04 10:29 PM |
#55 |
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Will have you seen this article? Think it's a coincidence? |
Alizaryn |
Dec-14-04 10:35 PM |
#62 |
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My question is -Why do the Triad people say they came and |
carolinalady |
Dec-14-04 10:24 PM |
#41 |
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They say it's because the machines had to.... |
godel escher bach |
Dec-14-04 11:40 PM |
#138 |
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Well, your gut has misled you |
txindy |
Dec-14-04 11:55 PM |
#156 |
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Well, I doubt it, but... |
godel escher bach |
Dec-15-04 12:33 AM |
#172 |
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After the votes have been certified to and a recount ordered, |
merh |
Dec-15-04 12:15 AM |
#164 |
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Please provide a link to this rule. Thanks n/t |
godel escher bach |
Dec-15-04 12:30 AM |
#169 |
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It is what Blackwell has based his "lockdown" of December 10 |
merh |
Dec-15-04 12:38 AM |
#174 |
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Oh, here you go, in Will's article is the reference to the code section. |
merh |
Dec-15-04 01:30 AM |
#184 |
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Thanks. |
godel escher bach |
Dec-15-04 11:46 PM |
#217 |
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Hocking County is really tiny... and it's one of the counties where... |
ClintCooper2003 |
Dec-14-04 10:26 PM |
#44 |
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Unfortunately, no one really cares about this type of information. |
godel escher bach |
Dec-15-04 12:50 AM |
#180 |
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OUR Credibility Is Fine |
Sideways |
Dec-15-04 01:32 AM |
#185 |
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LOL |
Kellis |
Dec-15-04 02:51 AM |
#187 |
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Well, we certainly should not jump to conclusions based on this... |
ClintCooper2003 |
Dec-15-04 03:14 AM |
#189 |
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Thank you WilliamPitt |
witchhazl |
Dec-14-04 10:27 PM |
#50 |
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Thanks, Will! |
cat_girl25 |
Dec-14-04 10:28 PM |
#52 |
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yiiiifuckinghaaaa |
Richard D |
Dec-14-04 10:29 PM |
#56 |
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"Three enemy carriers sunk...a fourth heavily damaged..." |
farmbo |
Dec-14-04 10:31 PM |
#59 |
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Sounds like they won't be doing a hand recount of Hocking County. |
milkyway |
Dec-14-04 10:33 PM |
#60 |
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Yes, but |
marylanddem |
Dec-14-04 10:39 PM |
#66 |
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BEAUTIFUL--Best news of the day! Thanks!..n/t |
Vote4Kerry |
Dec-14-04 10:35 PM |
#61 |
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just emailed the media |
Slit Skirt |
Dec-14-04 10:36 PM |
#63 |
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You need to check your facts before you do that... |
Stand and Fight |
Dec-14-04 11:14 PM |
#109 |
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you're right and thank you! |
Slit Skirt |
Dec-14-04 11:32 PM |
#130 |
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You Go! |
tsuki |
Dec-15-04 05:47 AM |
#197 |
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unfortunately if you take the Triad phone call into account |
garybeck |
Dec-14-04 10:38 PM |
#64 |
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I have a bridge I'll sell you |
marylanddem |
Dec-14-04 10:41 PM |
#68 |
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That's called a CYA phone call. |
shraby |
Dec-14-04 10:46 PM |
#74 |
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but he also said they didn't have any machines in that county (?) |
kineta |
Dec-14-04 10:48 PM |
#80 |
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Yes, and the explanation they give has the ring of.... |
godel escher bach |
Dec-15-04 12:02 AM |
#159 |
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Puhleez. You have spent entirely too much energy already. |
troubleinwinter |
Dec-15-04 03:41 AM |
#193 |
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Nixon had an explanation. |
tsuki |
Dec-15-04 05:59 AM |
#198 |
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It's about time! |
fiddlestix |
Dec-14-04 10:39 PM |
#65 |
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if this is illegal how can ohio be valid? |
kerry2win |
Dec-14-04 10:40 PM |
#67 |
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unfreaping beleivable |
whirlygigspin |
Dec-14-04 10:48 PM |
#79 |
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Source of this comment? |
marylanddem |
Dec-14-04 10:53 PM |
#84 |
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It's from the NYTimes article, itself n/t |
txindy |
Dec-14-04 11:24 PM |
#119 |
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They said I believe that Blackwell required it to wipe the other |
Alizaryn |
Dec-14-04 11:31 PM |
#127 |
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You dismiss this statement, but how do you... |
godel escher bach |
Dec-15-04 12:08 AM |
#162 |
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I'm sober all the time |
kerry2win |
Dec-15-04 12:50 AM |
#181 |
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FUNNIEST POST OF THE DAY AWARD to you! |
troubleinwinter |
Dec-15-04 03:44 AM |
#194 |
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confused about the 3% process |
idealista |
Dec-14-04 10:43 PM |
#70 |
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Please don't flame--please explain... |
chalky |
Dec-14-04 10:43 PM |
#71 |
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It is very confusing |
marylanddem |
Dec-14-04 10:48 PM |
#78 |
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It is Ohio law. n/t |
Stand and Fight |
Dec-14-04 11:23 PM |
#116 |
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but do they mean a "tabulator count" from electon day, or a new |
idealista |
Dec-15-04 12:34 PM |
#212 |
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Concerning the 3%.... |
shraby |
Dec-14-04 11:43 PM |
#141 |
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Ahhhhh...I see. |
chalky |
Dec-15-04 12:30 AM |
#170 |
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yesterday's story |
GregD |
Dec-14-04 10:54 PM |
#87 |
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Sherole Eaton - my hero (stay safe) n/t |
SaveAmerica |
Dec-14-04 10:43 PM |
#72 |
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The Triad techs might have been planting software that could count |
IndyOp |
Dec-14-04 10:46 PM |
#73 |
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Or he might have been covering all |
shraby |
Dec-14-04 10:49 PM |
#81 |
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Yeah, that's what I think |
marylanddem |
Dec-14-04 11:01 PM |
#94 |
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I get that part-- |
chalky |
Dec-14-04 11:05 PM |
#97 |
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Bingo, like switching the ballots. |
proudtobeadem |
Dec-14-04 11:10 PM |
#104 |
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Or could have been removing the software or hardware |
merh |
Dec-15-04 12:20 AM |
#166 |
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MAP--OHIO Customers of Triad Government Systems Inc.-Voting |
autorank |
Dec-14-04 10:50 PM |
#82 |
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Diebold was Rove's "look over here" |
shraby |
Dec-14-04 10:54 PM |
#86 |
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***???*** didn't get that memo, tell me more please. |
autorank |
Dec-14-04 10:57 PM |
#89 |
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A memo that Wally Diebold made |
shraby |
Dec-14-04 11:07 PM |
#100 |
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Got it. Remember that one. Maybe Rove's REPLY will show up. haha |
autorank |
Dec-14-04 11:13 PM |
#108 |
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WHO AUTHORIZED Triad to screw with the machines? |
marylanddem |
Dec-14-04 10:58 PM |
#90 |
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I bet his initial are KB. |
Pirate Smile |
Dec-14-04 11:18 PM |
#111 |
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Who Authorized Triad to screw? Blackwell.. |
IndyOp |
Dec-14-04 11:59 PM |
#158 |
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Did they screw with them, or... |
godel escher bach |
Dec-15-04 12:16 AM |
#165 |
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Don't forget this tampering incident by an ES&S employee in Ohio: |
milkyway |
Dec-14-04 10:58 PM |
#91 |
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Sounds like the whistleblower was fired! |
marylanddem |
Dec-14-04 11:06 PM |
#98 |
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That probably covered the other |
shraby |
Dec-14-04 11:21 PM |
#115 |
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ES&S and Triad are used in most of the 88 Ohio counties. |
milkyway |
Dec-14-04 11:39 PM |
#137 |
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what a wonderful desert |
Action Jackson |
Dec-14-04 11:09 PM |
#102 |
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thats so weird, as soon as you mentioned dessert and dinner, I just knew |
Karenca |
Dec-14-04 11:29 PM |
#123 |
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yes, and it was a New York classic |
Action Jackson |
Dec-14-04 11:40 PM |
#139 |
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yes !! |
Karenca |
Dec-14-04 11:49 PM |
#150 |
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Whoa this is good stuff, how come I didn't see it before?? |
proudtobeadem |
Dec-14-04 11:13 PM |
#107 |
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This is the only media report I've ever seen about this. It's been |
milkyway |
Dec-14-04 11:26 PM |
#120 |
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YYYEEEAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks Will :) |
proudtobeadem |
Dec-14-04 11:03 PM |
#96 |
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Thanks Will for the good news and your great reporting! |
Melissa G |
Dec-14-04 11:07 PM |
#99 |
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Can you spell C-O-V-E-R-U-P ?????? n/t |
Not_Without_A_Fight |
Dec-14-04 11:09 PM |
#103 |
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FUCK THIS 3% BULLSHIT RIGHT NOW !! |
Shalom |
Dec-14-04 11:11 PM |
#106 |
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Nothing less will do! |
Sydnie |
Dec-14-04 11:17 PM |
#110 |
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RECOUNT, REVOTE, AND REVOLT !!!! |
Shalom |
Dec-14-04 11:23 PM |
#117 |
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Thanks Will! |
kedrys |
Dec-14-04 11:19 PM |
#112 |
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Cobb said yesterday in his testimony, the guy switched actual |
4democracy |
Dec-14-04 11:20 PM |
#113 |
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What's alarming me-- |
chalky |
Dec-14-04 11:20 PM |
#114 |
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REVOTE...WE NEED A REVOTE!! |
Karenca |
Dec-14-04 11:27 PM |
#122 |
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Don't Ask for a Revote - DEMAND IT ! nt |
Shalom |
Dec-14-04 11:45 PM |
#143 |
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Yay! |
pattyloutwo |
Dec-14-04 11:30 PM |
#126 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-14-04 11:32 PM |
#128 |
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Bye Bye |
shraby |
Dec-14-04 11:34 PM |
#131 |
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Bye Bye? |
sockpuppet |
Dec-14-04 11:36 PM |
#132 |
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You know what? Maybe Kerry DID suck. |
chalky |
Dec-14-04 11:37 PM |
#134 |
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Thank you for the welcome. |
sockpuppet |
Dec-14-04 11:45 PM |
#144 |
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Well, I DID say "thanks", didn't I? |
chalky |
Dec-14-04 11:53 PM |
#154 |
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Kerry was AWESOME, Slammed Bushitler in All 3 Debates.. |
Shalom |
Dec-14-04 11:50 PM |
#152 |
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Hi, sockpuppet |
marylanddem |
Dec-14-04 11:39 PM |
#136 |
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Hi back! |
sockpuppet |
Dec-14-04 11:47 PM |
#149 |
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Your baseball analogy is garbled on a few points. Hanging curveballs, |
milkyway |
Dec-14-04 11:47 PM |
#148 |
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Sorry |
sockpuppet |
Dec-14-04 11:49 PM |
#151 |
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Have you read the Washington Post article coming out tomorrow. |
Pirate Smile |
Dec-14-04 11:55 PM |
#157 |
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So far all I've seen |
sockpuppet |
Dec-15-04 12:08 AM |
#161 |
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The fan |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Dec-15-04 06:30 AM |
#200 |
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Holy Shit the Times and the Post on the same day! |
Blue in the face |
Dec-15-04 12:47 AM |
#179 |
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LOL |
Kellis |
Dec-15-04 12:03 AM |
#160 |
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If you don't want to question the vote fraud in Ohio and other states, |
cat_girl25 |
Dec-15-04 12:12 AM |
#163 |
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nevermind |
kineta |
Dec-15-04 02:59 AM |
#188 |
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FACE FACTS! We ran a N.Eastern Aristocrat as a man of the people. |
unpossibles |
Dec-15-04 12:30 AM |
#171 |
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Exactly! nt |
Shalom |
Dec-15-04 12:55 AM |
#182 |
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Sherole Eaton is the Deputy Director of Hocking County's BOE. |
txindy |
Dec-14-04 11:37 PM |
#133 |
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No matter what excuse they use for |
shraby |
Dec-14-04 11:52 PM |
#153 |
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It's a step. |
shiina |
Dec-15-04 12:43 AM |
#177 |
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They'll go after Eaton. Wait. |
tsuki |
Dec-15-04 06:08 AM |
#199 |
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nifty! n/t |
tandem5 |
Dec-15-04 12:42 AM |
#175 |
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The most confusing aspect of it concerns the techie asking which precinct |
ClintCooper2003 |
Dec-15-04 03:19 AM |
#190 |
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Are there two different deputy directors of election in Hocking County? |
ClintCooper2003 |
Dec-15-04 03:21 AM |
#191 |
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Hard to tell which list is most recent |
txindy |
Dec-15-04 07:36 AM |
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... (offtopic) don't forget florida |
EuroObserver |
Dec-15-04 03:28 AM |
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Resetting the machines |
abluegirl |
Dec-15-04 05:35 AM |
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Expect to hear a lot of negative things about Sherole Eaton. The |
tsuki |
Dec-15-04 05:39 AM |
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oh yeah. |
Kellis |
Dec-15-04 11:23 AM |
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Well Hot Damn. Thanks Will n/t |
texpatriot2004 |
Dec-15-04 07:15 AM |
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The problem now is the MSM being controlled by News from |
ihelpu2see |
Dec-15-04 07:21 AM |
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what page of the NYTimes did this appear on? tnx n/t |
nmoliver |
Dec-15-04 07:30 AM |
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Yeah Will, kickin it G-style... |
tasteblind |
Dec-15-04 07:31 AM |
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Thanks to Will for posting & the NYT for covering this. |
Vidar |
Dec-15-04 09:00 AM |
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first time post, please create a new thread for me |
themistoclea |
Dec-15-04 09:05 AM |
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Thank you so much - this is |
mbee |
Dec-15-04 11:33 AM |
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wow! |
BlueCentrist |
Dec-15-04 12:34 PM |
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