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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 03:57 PM
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4. It is time for a guard change. A lot of people don't get technology
Edited on Wed Dec-08-04 03:58 PM by glitch
and refuse to get informed. They need to be removed from positions where the need to know tech is imperative.
If they would listen to people who do know and learn from them, or at least defer to their experience, that would be one thing. But to dismiss outright simply because they can't wrap their heads around the problem is intolerable.

Edit - Lynn Landes is very respected. He should have known who she was and all about her research. He made himself look less credible.
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  -What pissed me off about the hearings today........(Nadler in particular) Cheswick2.0  Dec-08-04 03:46 PM   #0 
  - That pissed me off too  Marnieworld   Dec-08-04 03:54 PM   #1 
  - I'll bet he would listen if a couple of hundred voters showed up  Cheswick2.0   Dec-08-04 03:55 PM   #2 
  - But Conyers seemed very appreciative of her issue. I gained a lot of  bj2110   Dec-08-04 03:56 PM   #3 
  - It is time for a guard change. A lot of people don't get technology  glitch   Dec-08-04 03:57 PM   #4 
  - yes and we need to start challenging them  Cheswick2.0   Dec-08-04 03:58 PM   #5 
  - Getting the message out is a struggle, in part because of this.  smartvoter   Dec-08-04 04:31 PM   #21 
  - ...and we are all getting hosed because these idiots don't get  NVMojo   Dec-09-04 09:30 AM   #59 
  - This is EXACTLY what I keep trying to clear up  Carolab   Dec-08-04 03:59 PM   #6 
  - One disagreement..............there is not such a thing as a nonpartisan  Cheswick2.0   Dec-08-04 04:05 PM   #11 
  - Exactly, Carolab - National standards, Local control  meganmonkey   Dec-08-04 04:45 PM   #28 
  - The voter protection act  pleiku52cab   Dec-08-04 03:59 PM   #7 
  - They pretty much all had that attitude ( except for JJ jr )  AmerDem   Dec-08-04 03:59 PM   #8 
  - I am really surprised at Nadler  Stephanie   Dec-08-04 04:02 PM   #9 
  - he was talking nonsense..........the machines broke  Cheswick2.0   Dec-08-04 04:10 PM   #12 
  - I'll say it again  juajen   Dec-08-04 05:42 PM   #51 
     - I agree we must get rid of the electronic machines  Cheswick2.0   Dec-09-04 09:30 AM   #58 
  - Well, he's from Manhattan  siddharta   Dec-08-04 05:49 PM   #52 
  - NY practically invented stuffing the ballot box  Old Mouse   Dec-08-04 04:04 PM   #10 
  - I hate to be rude but bullshit  Cheswick2.0   Dec-08-04 04:11 PM   #13 
  - We still have a system of government in place  Old Mouse   Dec-08-04 04:21 PM   #17 
     - yeahsureright  Cheswick2.0   Dec-08-04 04:27 PM   #19 
        - it seems you have a plan  Old Mouse   Dec-08-04 04:32 PM   #23 
           - Act like leaders and know what they are talking about  Cheswick2.0   Dec-08-04 04:36 PM   #25 
              - fight who?  Old Mouse   Dec-08-04 04:43 PM   #27 
                 - you are starting to be as transparent as a plate glass window  Cheswick2.0   Dec-08-04 05:10 PM   #37 
                    - be constructive  Old Mouse   Dec-08-04 05:19 PM   #40 
                       - what part of "you are starting to be as transparent as a plate glass  Cheswick2.0   Dec-09-04 09:32 AM   #60 
  - you know what  AmerDem   Dec-08-04 04:15 PM   #14 
  - I know what you mean  Old Mouse   Dec-08-04 04:30 PM   #20 
  - fear of what?  AmerDem   Dec-08-04 04:36 PM   #24 
     - I wish to god I knew  Old Mouse   Dec-08-04 04:54 PM   #30 
        - with all do respect  AmerDem   Dec-08-04 05:07 PM   #34 
           - thanks for the respect  Old Mouse   Dec-08-04 05:18 PM   #38 
  - C-SPAN  stirringstill   Dec-09-04 12:25 PM   #67 
  - i was angry to when i saw nadler coming off as a pompous ass  ooglymoogly   Dec-08-04 04:52 PM   #29 
  - Tammany Hall was in New York  Yupster   Dec-08-04 06:46 PM   #56 
  - The clear message that came through about this hearing. . .  whistle   Dec-08-04 04:15 PM   #15 
  - yes, they need to fight for democracy  Cheswick2.0   Dec-08-04 04:18 PM   #16 
  - You catch more flies with honey....  crispini   Dec-08-04 05:05 PM   #33 
     - we have polited ourselves right out of a democracy  Cheswick2.0   Dec-09-04 09:34 AM   #61 
  - exactly  Old Mouse   Dec-08-04 04:26 PM   #18 
  - Then we use the law and the courts and lawyers. . .  whistle   Dec-08-04 04:32 PM   #22 
     - We do not have most of your options  Old Mouse   Dec-08-04 04:38 PM   #26 
        - They cheated to get the majority and the presidency;  anamandujano   Dec-08-04 05:18 PM   # 
           - they committed treason to hijack the nation  Old Mouse   Dec-08-04 05:28 PM   #44 
              - i do begrudgingly agree with you  anamandujano   Dec-08-04 05:32 PM   #47 
              - nonsense  Cheswick2.0   Dec-09-04 09:35 AM   #62 
  - and contrast to the parliament in Britain...  leftchick   Dec-08-04 05:09 PM   #36 
  - Well, at the risk of being clobbered, I'll say this  DancingBear   Dec-08-04 05:00 PM   #31 
  - No clobbering here  Old Mouse   Dec-08-04 05:03 PM   #32 
  - thanks for the defeatest talk  Cheswick2.0   Dec-08-04 05:09 PM   #35 
  - Oh please  DancingBear   Dec-08-04 05:18 PM   #39 
  - You have at least one fan here n/t  Old Mouse   Dec-08-04 05:20 PM   #41 
  - "minimize the damage that Bush will do"  anamandujano   Dec-08-04 05:29 PM   #45 
  - Hmmmm  Old Mouse   Dec-08-04 05:32 PM   #46 
  - The Texas Dems go nationwide?  DancingBear   Dec-08-04 05:34 PM   #49 
  - exactly, the texas dems  anamandujano   Dec-08-04 05:41 PM   #50 
  - you are right  Cheswick2.0   Dec-09-04 09:37 AM   #63 
  - I believe the snowball started with DU and like minds on the  cry baby   Dec-08-04 05:55 PM   #53 
  - oh please youself  Cheswick2.0   Dec-09-04 09:29 AM   #57 
  - But at least they ar fighting  TayTay   Dec-08-04 05:23 PM   # 
  - That was my take too.  Old and In the Way   Dec-08-04 05:21 PM   #42 
     - cool nick...  Old Mouse   Dec-08-04 05:34 PM   #48 
  - Few Career politicians are going to really care  Razorback_Democrat   Dec-08-04 05:23 PM   #43 
  - Send them all this link  siddharta   Dec-08-04 05:57 PM   #54 
  - In NY we have a system that works better than paper ballots  robbedvoter   Dec-08-04 06:12 PM   #55 
  - Nadler was clueless  Cheswick2.0   Dec-09-04 09:39 AM   #64 
     - Not having a paper trail is unconstitional  siddharta   Dec-09-04 11:54 AM   #65 
  - problem was, the lady had already done that speech  ccarter84   Dec-09-04 11:58 AM   #66 

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