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91. good thoughts, wiggs
"This is very interesting, but the affadavit is limited in what it says. It says that the vote was hackable, that a republican in Florida was interested in knowing how to hack it, and that that republican had a least one tool needed to hack it."
that's a great summary of the significance of this affadavit. i was a little disappointed when i found out Madsen was talking about the http://www.justaflyonthewall.com guy (which, btw, seems to be somewhat updated recently) but wiggs make a great point about being a tangible starting point...and that means everything right now.

if someone doesn't step forward though with credible first-hand testimony about code in use on 11/2/04, this document means nothing.

(can somebody with familiarity with Microsoft fill an old unix guy in on something...i thought VB was purely a scripting language. is it accurate to talk about 'compiled" VB?)
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  -iT'S ON-LINE: Curtis Affadavit: SIGNED, SEALED, DELIVERED !! Shalom  Dec-06-04 01:06 PM   #0 
  - wahoo! thanks!  noclonyofthechimp   Dec-06-04 01:07 PM   #1 
  - WooooHooooo!! Thanks for the Post!  IAMREALITY   Dec-06-04 01:07 PM   #2 
  - Curtis takes names and numbers  Shalom   Dec-06-04 01:11 PM   #5 
  - Boom.  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Dec-06-04 01:11 PM   #3 
  - Notary Public  Stand and Fight   Dec-06-04 02:43 PM   #99 
  - I'm a Notary  GingerSnaps   Dec-06-04 11:11 PM   #328 
  - Affidavits  Stand and Fight   Dec-06-04 02:46 PM   #104 
     - Affy davids  FogerRox   Dec-06-04 06:07 PM   #270 
     - Curtis affidavit submitted to House....  understandinglife   Dec-07-04 01:29 AM   #341 
  - should we present to oberman?  noclonyofthechimp   Dec-06-04 01:11 PM   #4 
  - i think oberman reads these blogs himself  keepthemhonest   Dec-06-04 01:19 PM   #11 
  - I think it is a color scan.  mccoyn   Dec-06-04 01:31 PM   #29 
  - Good observation  BlueDog2u   Dec-06-04 01:31 PM   #31 
  - i hope you two guys are right  keepthemhonest   Dec-06-04 01:34 PM   #33 
  - This is not a blog. I hate that generalization. n/t  Kralizec   Dec-06-04 02:42 PM   #98 
  - these are not weblogs  keepthemhonest   Dec-06-04 03:10 PM   #129 
  - Olbermann  Stand and Fight   Dec-06-04 02:47 PM   #105 
  - great avatar ! lol nt  steve2470   Dec-06-04 03:25 PM   #142 
  - I don't think he reads these blogs, a lot of members here email him  Pepper32   Dec-06-04 04:54 PM   #216 
  - of course--pass to KO--any and all of us--so what if he gets a 100+ copies  rodeodance   Dec-06-04 04:02 PM   #170 
     - Yep, it's time to start accidentally dropping copies of this affidavit  Pepper32   Dec-06-04 04:57 PM   #220 
  - YES!  OKthatsIT   Dec-06-04 01:13 PM   #6 
  - Brad Blog: whistleblower affidavit story and link  understandinglife   Dec-06-04 01:13 PM   #7 
  - tried to connect but Too Many Users was what came up. MSM?n/t  caligirl   Dec-06-04 02:51 PM   #111 
  - Brad's site is definitely getting hammered; 'slashdot' or 'dos'??  understandinglife   Dec-06-04 03:52 PM   #161 
     - I'm just getting hammered...  BradBlog   Dec-06-04 06:49 PM   #281 
  - bradblog story copied at buzzflash.com as well n/t  kitty1   Dec-06-04 05:17 PM   #235 
  - does this only apply to Florida? n/t  ahyums   Dec-06-04 01:14 PM   #8 
  - Why is the last page a different color?  ET Awful   Dec-06-04 01:15 PM   #9 
  - yeah I noticed it is in a different type too  keepthemhonest   Dec-06-04 01:20 PM   #12 
  - I wondered that too  ohio_liberal   Dec-06-04 01:20 PM   #13 
  - And why is it dated today? Why would someone (Madsen)  BR_Parkway   Dec-06-04 01:21 PM   #17 
  - He probably had been in contact with Curtis before and...  ClintCooper2003   Dec-06-04 01:27 PM   #23 
  - something seems fishy about the paper  keepthemhonest   Dec-06-04 01:28 PM   #26 
  - Black and white vs. color scanning.  pointsoflight   Dec-06-04 02:31 PM   #85 
     - I use to do Notary work  fasttense   Dec-06-04 03:37 PM   #148 
  - agree... inconsistencies like this  AmyCrat   Dec-06-04 01:38 PM   #42 
  - No  IAMREALITY   Dec-06-04 01:46 PM   #46 
  - Yeah, I really wish it scanned more true to the document  Pepper32   Dec-06-04 04:51 PM   #213 
     - another reasonable and good idea n/t  AmyCrat   Dec-06-04 04:51 PM   #214 
        - Thanks, hopefully they will do this and SOON n/t  Pepper32   Dec-06-04 05:10 PM   #230 
  - Two different affadavits.  pointsoflight   Dec-06-04 02:30 PM   #84 
     - yes, signed Dec 6, 2004 (per pdf document)  rodeodance   Dec-06-04 07:13 PM   #292 
  - It was Auto-Scanned that way...  BradBlog   Dec-06-04 01:35 PM   #36 
  - Thanks for your work on this!  pointsoflight   Dec-06-04 02:32 PM   #87 
  - ok n/t  keepthemhonest   Dec-06-04 02:48 PM   #106 
  - Who are you giving this to? Which authorities/media?  Liberty Belle   Dec-06-04 03:36 PM   #147 
  - Let your Congressman (and Media!) Know...  BradBlog   Dec-06-04 06:54 PM   #283 
  - So the auto-scanning makes the font look like different sizes??  Emillereid   Dec-06-04 06:56 PM   #284 
  - I think it is a color scan.  mccoyn   Dec-06-04 01:35 PM   #37 
  - this can easily happen as someone scans individual pages and forgets to  NVMojo   Dec-06-04 02:37 PM   #93 
  - This appears to be the difference in how the pages were scanned.  mdb   Dec-06-04 02:27 PM   #77 
  - Well, duhhh. . .  jwmealy   Dec-06-04 07:57 PM   #302 
  - This part jumped out at me  Gregorian   Dec-06-04 01:19 PM   #10 
  - It looks like the first three pages were scanned in...  Mister K   Dec-06-04 01:30 PM   #28 
  - Great news! This is the first item that could be considered...  bj2110   Dec-06-04 01:20 PM   #14 
  - How much smoke does this document produce......  whistle   Dec-06-04 01:20 PM   #15 
  - Smoke...  Stand and Fight   Dec-06-04 02:53 PM   #113 
  - Simply put  Scout1071   Dec-06-04 01:21 PM   #16 
  - have a look at some history  burythehatchet   Dec-06-04 01:23 PM   #18 
  - I couldn't find it.  ClintCooper2003   Dec-06-04 01:25 PM   #20 
     - its buried pretty deep  burythehatchet   Dec-06-04 01:31 PM   #30 
        - And I would agree with you  Donailin   Dec-06-04 10:46 PM   #325 
  - Holy, holy, holy!  ClintCooper2003   Dec-06-04 01:24 PM   #19 
  - FYI Tom Feeney is a clone for Tom Delay  Florida_Geek   Dec-06-04 01:26 PM   #21 
  - DETAILS ON STORY  rawstory   Dec-06-04 01:26 PM   #22 
  - THANKS to Raw Story & Bradblog for busting this wide open...n/t  Shalom   Dec-06-04 01:29 PM   #27 
  - Please Re-scan with a fixed setup and re-post  mackdaddy   Dec-06-04 10:51 PM   #327 
  - This is bogus  Broken Acorn   Dec-06-04 01:28 PM   #24 
  - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA  IAMREALITY   Dec-06-04 01:33 PM   #32 
  - Sorry, you're wrong Acorn  BradBlog   Dec-06-04 01:37 PM   #40 
  - real casolaro's death in 1991  emcguffie   Dec-06-04 04:33 PM   #193 
     - I don't know WTF you're talking about.  countmyvote4real   Dec-07-04 12:14 AM   #336 
        - madsen and casolaro  emcguffie   Dec-07-04 02:26 PM   #361 
  - there is nothing unusual about the fourth page being scanned in color  NVMojo   Dec-06-04 02:43 PM   #101 
  - I am quite open to the possibility that the document is not genuine  BlueDog2u   Dec-06-04 03:00 PM   #121 
  - This isn't credible (sorry)  mostly_lurking   Dec-06-04 01:28 PM   #25 
  - You're Right  IAMREALITY   Dec-06-04 01:34 PM   #34 
  - INCREDIBLE REALITY FROM IAMREALITY, REALLY !!! n/t  Shalom   Dec-06-04 01:36 PM   #39 
  - Is this a dream?  eowyn_of_rohan   Dec-06-04 03:29 PM   #144 
  - I Disagree...It Is Credible  Shalom   Dec-06-04 01:35 PM   #35 
  - No disrespect Shalom  Broken Acorn   Dec-06-04 01:36 PM   #38 
  - My degree is an MSEE in Computer Engineering  mostly_lurking   Dec-06-04 01:45 PM   #45 
  - My degree is also.  skids   Dec-06-04 02:29 PM   #81 
  - Excellent post  mostly_lurking   Dec-06-04 02:33 PM   #89 
  - Thanks for the clarification  BlueDog2u   Dec-06-04 03:06 PM   #125 
  - In fact, it is pretty much stated to be another program  skids   Dec-06-04 07:02 PM   #286 
     - The language about Feeney is a little ambiguous,  jwmealy   Dec-06-04 08:17 PM   #311 
  - Thanks to both of you for providing reasoned, intelligent analysis.  milkyway   Dec-06-04 03:14 PM   #131 
     - But he wouldn't have known how it was to be committed.  pointsoflight   Dec-06-04 03:35 PM   #146 
  - When it comes to software design, EEs are legends...  phantom power   Dec-06-04 03:22 PM   #139 
     - Stanford's Computer Engineering program  mostly_lurking   Dec-06-04 03:28 PM   #143 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-06-04 04:03 PM   #171 
  - I agree, Shalom, and I know lots of self taught programmers who  NVMojo   Dec-06-04 02:46 PM   #103 
  - What I found interesting is that it ties into the GEMS system  Mister K   Dec-06-04 01:38 PM   #41 
  - ALL Databases use serial numbers  Broken Acorn   Dec-06-04 01:42 PM   #44 
  - Your point?  Viktor Runeberg   Dec-06-04 01:55 PM   #54 
     - Well Said Viktor  IAMREALITY   Dec-06-04 01:59 PM   #58 
  - so if this is for real then  keepthemhonest   Dec-06-04 02:41 PM   #96 
  - Mr K - I remember reading a story about ballots in affiliated  Laura PackYourBags   Dec-06-04 05:53 PM   #263 
  - How many thousands of people do programming without a degree?  iconoclastNYC   Dec-06-04 01:51 PM   #51 
  - Perhaps, but...  mostly_lurking   Dec-06-04 02:01 PM   #62 
     - As someone else has pointed out ...  Viktor Runeberg   Dec-06-04 02:10 PM   #67 
     - That's completely wrong  mostly_lurking   Dec-06-04 02:24 PM   #76 
        - for what it is worth, our county clerk had the database from the recent  NVMojo   Dec-06-04 02:52 PM   #112 
     - Voting machines are PCs, not embedded systems  electropop   Dec-06-04 02:10 PM   #68 
     - I already addressed this in my earlier post  mostly_lurking   Dec-06-04 02:29 PM   #79 
     - gee, I remember when I was looking my ballot choices on the Sequoia  NVMojo   Dec-06-04 02:53 PM   #114 
     - Exactly, plus since the OS is Windows, you need only the Windows API's  wrate   Dec-06-04 02:31 PM   #86 
     - No  mostly_lurking   Dec-06-04 02:36 PM   #92 
        - It's irrelevant anyway  electropop   Dec-06-04 02:50 PM   #110 
     - Yes, it IS windows software. You can download the software here....  pointsoflight   Dec-06-04 03:01 PM   #123 
     - This is all irrelevant.  pointsoflight   Dec-06-04 02:45 PM   #102 
     - Maybe my point is simple but he was obviously qualified enough to be hired  Pepper32   Dec-06-04 02:49 PM   #109 
  - It doesn't sound like he was good at his job.  mccoyn   Dec-06-04 01:57 PM   #56 
  - Or else ...  Viktor Runeberg   Dec-06-04 02:18 PM   #71 
     - Agreed.  mccoyn   Dec-06-04 02:29 PM   #82 
        - This guy is a vb programmer...  badc0der   Dec-06-04 11:44 PM   #334 
  - Well, it's INTERESTING.  crispini   Dec-06-04 02:00 PM   #59 
  - I have to agree  high density   Dec-06-04 02:01 PM   #61 
  - But the thing is, it proves that they (Feeney and the Repukes)  Sparkle   Dec-06-04 03:08 PM   #126 
     - I believe a person can be charged with "attempted crime".  life_long_dem   Dec-06-04 04:17 PM   #182 
  - I'm only a lowly BSEE (1984) but...  electropop   Dec-06-04 02:04 PM   #64 
  - Don't know where you work but  Viktor Runeberg   Dec-06-04 02:07 PM   #66 
  - I agree there are many talented programmers  mostly_lurking   Dec-06-04 02:20 PM   #73 
  - 2 MAJOR things  Boredtodeath   Dec-06-04 03:17 PM   #134 
  - This is very true  Donailin   Dec-06-04 10:49 PM   #326 
  - Your logic is flawed.  pointsoflight   Dec-06-04 02:38 PM   #94 
  - exactly n/t  Pepper32   Dec-06-04 02:57 PM   #118 
  - yeah, and Feeney may have just been using him through an "inquiry"  NVMojo   Dec-06-04 03:03 PM   # 
  - Not Credible  davidlynch   Dec-06-04 03:44 PM   #153 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-06-04 03:48 PM   #156 
  - Yes, what would we have done? The thought is frightening. Good thing we  Pepper32   Dec-06-04 07:07 PM   #289 
  - Superscripting could only have been done on a 1973 IBM Executive.  Qutzupalotl   Dec-06-04 06:47 PM   #280 
  - BS in CS is over-rated  jfern   Dec-06-04 04:45 PM   #202 
  - So, the way I'm reading this is....  bj2110   Dec-06-04 01:42 PM   #43 
  - Other Possibility:  Shalom   Dec-06-04 01:53 PM   #52 
  - Makes even more sense. Embed it everywhere and...  bj2110   Dec-06-04 01:57 PM   #55 
     - Need Computer Whiz Thread on Scams, and Other Ideas  Shalom   Dec-06-04 02:39 PM   #95 
  - Affadavit doesn't say what was actually used.....  wiggs   Dec-06-04 01:58 PM   #57 
  - I sure hope Bev, Madsen, & Conyers are all talking...  bj2110   Dec-06-04 02:01 PM   #60 
  - I hope they're all talking...to Kerry  proudtobeadem   Dec-06-04 02:43 PM   #100 
  - what it does prove ...  nmoliver   Dec-06-04 02:15 PM   #70 
  - Right  wiggs   Dec-06-04 02:28 PM   #78 
  - good thoughts, wiggs  danostuporstar   Dec-06-04 02:36 PM   #91 
  - Affidavit suggests it wasn't this program.  mccoyn   Dec-06-04 02:42 PM   #97 
  - Yes, and he recreates the program here:  pointsoflight   Dec-06-04 02:55 PM   #115 
     - Crap--  tjdee   Dec-06-04 04:47 PM   #205 
  - Exactly, good post.  pointsoflight   Dec-06-04 02:48 PM   #107 
  - Exactly!!! If they very devious enough to use vote hacking code, they  googly   Dec-06-04 04:45 PM   #203 
  - Some stuff for you geeks  Zan_of_Texas   Dec-06-04 05:52 PM   #262 
     - Actual hack test of Diebold touchscreen  Zan_of_Texas   Dec-06-04 05:59 PM   #266 
        - One more thing --  Zan_of_Texas   Dec-06-04 06:05 PM   #269 
           - okay, one more - re qui tam  Zan_of_Texas   Dec-06-04 06:18 PM   #274 
  - Why are the first 3 pages  From the south   Dec-06-04 01:46 PM   #47 
  - Read the thread.  crispini   Dec-06-04 01:48 PM   #48 
  - No Raymond Lemme in Google search  jcollins35   Dec-06-04 01:50 PM   #49 
  - Here is a google link (about Lemme, not his death)  koleszar   Dec-06-04 02:03 PM   #63 
  - Raymond Lemme is mentioned here  AmyCrat   Dec-06-04 02:04 PM   #65 
  - I found a document from google  qanda   Dec-06-04 03:57 PM   #164 
  - I found a few things on Ray Lemme  eek   Dec-06-04 04:56 PM   #219 
  - Feeny's rebuttal -- issued two years ago???  MarkusQ   Dec-06-04 01:50 PM   #50 
  - Link doesn't work... n/t  mostly_lurking   Dec-06-04 01:54 PM   #53 
  - THis is awsome!!  libertybelle   Dec-06-04 02:11 PM   #69 
  - It's fake  Broken Acorn   Dec-06-04 02:18 PM   #72 
     - Here we go again  IAMREALITY   Dec-06-04 02:20 PM   #74 
     - that is so  George W. Hayduke   Dec-06-04 05:12 PM   #233 
     - I haven't seen anything that proves its fake.... Please direct me to...  bj2110   Dec-06-04 02:21 PM   #75 
     - Its not working.  faithfull   Dec-06-04 02:30 PM   #83 
     - That's a very persuasive argument you're making....  BlueDog2u   Dec-06-04 02:58 PM   #120 
     - If you say its a fake and since you are 100% sure  SueZhope   Dec-06-04 02:34 PM   #90 
     - IF this was true  Broken Acorn   Dec-06-04 02:49 PM   #108 
     - Broken Acorn  IAMREALITY   Dec-06-04 03:03 PM   #124 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-06-04 03:15 PM   #132 
        - No Ass Here  IAMREALITY   Dec-06-04 03:18 PM   #135 
     - The sky really isn't falling - we really didn't hit an iceberg . . .  merh   Dec-06-04 06:23 PM   #275 
     - YES! Who created it, or rather, who did such a "sloppy" inconsistant...  coreystone   Dec-06-04 07:05 PM   #287 
     - It's fake because I said so  stirringstill   Dec-06-04 02:57 PM   #119 
     - This affidavit isn't real people.  BlueDog2u   Dec-06-04 03:20 PM   #136 
     - LOL Blue  IAMREALITY   Dec-06-04 03:24 PM   #140 
     - Compare page 3 at 89% to page 4 at full-size ...  Dolphyn   Dec-06-04 07:23 PM   #294 
  - Updated Link  sabra   Dec-06-04 02:55 PM   #116 
     - been there, done that....this is typically how corporations or the feds  NVMojo   Dec-06-04 03:10 PM   #128 
     - Typical  wiggs   Dec-06-04 03:14 PM   #130 
     - Good find, but Feeney doesn't say anything. It's just empty words telling  milkyway   Dec-06-04 04:09 PM   #179 
     - Right and two weeks ago during the Merck hearings  Donailin   Dec-06-04 11:17 PM   #329 
  - Your link doesn't work!  merh   Dec-06-04 05:51 PM   #260 
  - INFORMATION ON DOCUMENT DISCREPANCIES  rawstory   Dec-06-04 06:14 PM   #271 
  - More cache'd Feeney hits on google:  Turn CO Blue   Dec-06-04 07:16 PM   #293 
     - article to which Feeney was responding...  DTinAZ   Dec-07-04 09:23 AM   #352 
  - This isn't news until Drudgie says it's news.  Sparkle   Dec-06-04 02:29 PM   #80 
  - I stopped reading drudge a month ago.  Donailin   Dec-06-04 11:20 PM   #330 
  - i dunno it's made it to MetaFilter  danostuporstar   Dec-07-04 08:27 AM   #346 
  - Raymond Lemme  izzy12   Dec-06-04 02:32 PM   #88 
  - More on Raymond Lemme.. He did work for Fl. IG  CabalPowered   Dec-06-04 03:01 PM   #122 
  - say, it's not a very good idea to post someones SSN  Donailin   Dec-06-04 11:23 PM   #331 
  - Was there a "pi" symbol on the bottom of the voter screen?  wiggs   Dec-06-04 02:56 PM   #117 
  - This guy is going to jail.  libmeayer   Dec-06-04 03:08 PM   #127 
  - I found this through google  qanda   Dec-06-04 03:16 PM   #133 
  - And this...  qanda   Dec-06-04 03:20 PM   #137 
  - archived version of this URL  DTinAZ   Dec-07-04 09:17 AM   #351 
  - archived version of this URL  DTinAZ   Dec-07-04 09:15 AM   #350 
  - Question... how does this tie in to the technicians at polling places?  mdb   Dec-06-04 03:20 PM   #138 
  - Great respect for Clinton Curtis.  eowyn_of_rohan   Dec-06-04 03:24 PM   #141 
  - I believe there were news reports about  shraby   Dec-06-04 03:31 PM   #145 
     - I've been reading about his death today--very sad. Another hero -nt  eowyn_of_rohan   Dec-06-04 03:44 PM   #151 
  - I sent it to Olbermann. What else should we do? kick! kick!  Liberty Belle   Dec-06-04 03:41 PM   #149 
  - Kick!!  shraby   Dec-06-04 03:42 PM   #150 
  - To the Naysayers:  Peace Patriot   Dec-06-04 03:44 PM   #152 
  - Disagree--Obvious Fake  davidlynch   Dec-06-04 03:47 PM   #155 
  - ITS FAKE--SORRY  davidlynch   Dec-06-04 03:46 PM   #154 
  - Agreed n/t  reality_bites   Dec-06-04 03:50 PM   #157 
  - It's is? Thanks for letting me know. I really appreciate that.  Sparkle   Dec-06-04 03:50 PM   #158 
  - Sparkle  IAMREALITY   Dec-06-04 03:52 PM   #160 
     - Yes, I was being sarcastic.  Sparkle   Dec-06-04 04:12 PM   #180 
        - Every time, I see "move on", I get even more determined NOT to move on...  Pepper32   Dec-06-04 04:41 PM   #199 
  - Okay, I always view things with skepticism  ibegurpard   Dec-06-04 03:51 PM   #159 
  - Oh Don't Worry ibegurpard  IAMREALITY   Dec-06-04 03:52 PM   #162 
  - And why do all the people who try to discredit this  qanda   Dec-06-04 04:01 PM   #168 
     - You say go away, I saw no.  AmyCrat   Dec-06-04 04:06 PM   #176 
  - Being skeptical makes sense  AmyCrat   Dec-06-04 03:57 PM   #163 
     - AmyCrat  IAMREALITY   Dec-06-04 04:00 PM   #167 
     - You didn't address my question  ibegurpard   Dec-06-04 04:02 PM   #169 
     - Hey, Do Not Talk To AmyCrat That Way  IAMREALITY   Dec-06-04 04:04 PM   #172 
     - maybe you're right  AmyCrat   Dec-06-04 04:05 PM   #173 
        - Oh, I will  ibegurpard   Dec-06-04 04:21 PM   #184 
     - Looks to me...  pointsoflight   Dec-06-04 04:05 PM   #174 
     - that's a very good idea.  AmyCrat   Dec-06-04 04:07 PM   #178 
     - Amycrat  SueZhope   Dec-06-04 04:25 PM   #187 
        - Woooohoooooo Amy!!!!  IAMREALITY   Dec-06-04 04:28 PM   #190 
        - hehe thanks n/t  AmyCrat   Dec-06-04 04:42 PM   #200 
        - ack!  AmyCrat   Dec-06-04 04:31 PM   #192 
           - Kinda Makes Ya Realize  IAMREALITY   Dec-06-04 04:35 PM   #195 
              - I hear ya...  AmyCrat   Dec-06-04 04:44 PM   #201 
  - Looks to me like it's about scanner settings.  pointsoflight   Dec-06-04 03:58 PM   #165 
  - The Last Page Is Real--Rest Is Fake  davidlynch   Dec-06-04 04:00 PM   #166 
  - And you think Madsen's is fake, too, and that he's risking a libel suit?  pointsoflight   Dec-06-04 04:07 PM   #177 
  - Believe Me--I Hate Bush--But This Is Fake  davidlynch   Dec-06-04 04:45 PM   #204 
     - And what about Madsen's affadavit?  pointsoflight   Dec-06-04 05:44 PM   #254 
  - If you are right...  wiggs   Dec-06-04 04:16 PM   #181 
  - I don't think anyone would sign an affidavit  shraby   Dec-06-04 04:06 PM   #175 
  - What I am noticing is that the nay-sayers  intelle   Dec-06-04 06:17 PM   #273 
  - Okay, can you go back to FreeRepublic now?  Razorback_Democrat   Dec-06-04 07:36 PM   #298 
  - The document is being hit hard by posters with less than 150 posts...  jsamuel   Dec-06-04 04:18 PM   #183 
  - Not necessarily  ibegurpard   Dec-06-04 04:23 PM   #186 
  - Me > 200 posts.  prof_science   Dec-06-04 04:27 PM   #189 
     - You have that right, and we do need to be sure, but just SHOUTING  jsamuel   Dec-06-04 04:29 PM   #191 
        - Who's shouting?  prof_science   Dec-06-04 04:34 PM   #194 
           - I think we should all be careful who we point fingers at...  AmyCrat   Dec-06-04 04:38 PM   #197 
              - Hi Amycrat!  Sparkle   Dec-06-04 04:49 PM   #210 
              - sparkle... yes, someone just let me know a few posts up^ -- thanks :) n/t  AmyCrat   Dec-06-04 04:50 PM   #211 
                 - Amycrat you are a DU star now... hehe Congrats :) n/t  Pepper32   Dec-06-04 07:33 PM   #297 
              - Thank You  mirrera   Dec-07-04 07:23 AM   #344 
              - Thank you, this is a big problem on this forum.  mccoyn   Dec-07-04 09:01 AM   #349 
  - The first and third letters of every tenth word are fake, the rest are  buddysmellgood   Dec-06-04 04:22 PM   #185 
  - Section 14 regarding Hai Lin Nee is partially verified here (USA Today)  Cronus Protagonist   Dec-06-04 04:26 PM   #188 
  - The Affidavit Is Real  raipoli   Dec-06-04 04:39 PM   #198 
     - Then Why Is the Font Different?  davidlynch   Dec-06-04 04:47 PM   #206 
     - It's not different.  pointsoflight   Dec-06-04 04:52 PM   #215 
        - Also...  Pepper32   Dec-06-04 08:09 PM   #308 
           - I just had an affadavit notarized last week at my local bank  Donailin   Dec-06-04 11:47 PM   #335 
              - When a Notary notarizes a document, all they are doing is  ET Awful   Dec-07-04 08:44 AM   #348 
     - Thanks  BlueDog2u   Dec-06-04 04:48 PM   #207 
     - Fine, but since we don't know you, do you mind if we verify?  Cronus Protagonist   Dec-06-04 04:48 PM   #208 
     - That sounds great  SueZhope   Dec-06-04 04:49 PM   #209 
     - And who might you be?  Sparkle   Dec-06-04 04:50 PM   #212 
     - You mean Maryland.  Donailin   Dec-06-04 11:38 PM   #332 
  - Jeb Bush Called FL Congressman Feeney a "LOOSE CANNON"  Shalom   Dec-06-04 04:37 PM   #196 
  - Loose cannons are needed in the BA to implement unwritten policy  wiggs   Dec-06-04 05:16 PM   #234 
     - Good Point: Loose Cannons Give BA Distance & Deniability..  Shalom   Dec-06-04 05:35 PM   #245 
  - I love the reasoning  Broken Acorn   Dec-06-04 04:54 PM   #217 
  - The thing is  mamalone   Dec-06-04 05:01 PM   #224 
  - Agreed  Broken Acorn   Dec-06-04 05:30 PM   #241 
  - Let's Not Bust "Broken Acorns" Nuts....  Shalom   Dec-06-04 05:02 PM   #225 
     - I hope you are right Shalom  Broken Acorn   Dec-06-04 05:37 PM   #247 
     - Exactly...  Pepper32   Dec-06-04 08:30 PM   #316 
  - document not fraudelent - the scan was done different on the last page  mikelewis   Dec-06-04 04:56 PM   #218 
  - Remember what happened to Rather and the fake documents  Shopaholic   Dec-06-04 05:00 PM   #222 
     - This is different, the question is on the content not the doc. The doc  mikelewis   Dec-06-04 05:04 PM   #226 
     - Right  BlueDog2u   Dec-06-04 05:48 PM   #257 
     - But also keep in mind the full story.  pointsoflight   Dec-06-04 05:07 PM   #227 
        - Exactly, why would they risk a libel suit?  Pepper32   Dec-06-04 05:34 PM   #243 
  - I am no expert, but, just on the last page, in the remainder of....  coreystone   Dec-06-04 04:59 PM   #221 
  - The first three pages have been enlarged.  pointsoflight   Dec-06-04 05:01 PM   #223 
  - The fourth page which finishes Para. #13, it looks different!  coreystone   Dec-06-04 05:09 PM   #229 
  - That's because when you convert to B/W you loose greyscale shading  mikelewis   Dec-06-04 05:07 PM   #228 
  - Agreed. The total bit depth of the B & W will be divided three ways  lthuedk   Dec-06-04 05:21 PM   #236 
  - The Affidavit is REAL!  KeireG   Dec-06-04 05:48 PM   #256 
  - OK, all the professionals who have chimed in here...  mostly_lurking   Dec-06-04 05:10 PM   #231 
  - I just don't want to get "Dan Rathered"! :-) n/t  coreystone   Dec-06-04 05:11 PM   #232 
  - This program is a simple Visual program...  jsamuel   Dec-06-04 05:23 PM   #238 
  - Since you found this, maybe you'd like the honor of starting a new thread  Karmadillo   Dec-06-04 05:28 PM   #240 
     - Already one going  mostly_lurking   Dec-06-04 05:40 PM   #250 
     - Thanks  Karmadillo   Dec-06-04 05:51 PM   #261 
     - I Think a New Thread Makes Sense - Can You Propose a Title ?  Shalom   Dec-06-04 05:49 PM   #258 
  - This is Clint Curtis' consulting firm Ask him if this affidavit is real.  mikelewis   Dec-06-04 05:21 PM   #237 
  - Surely he's gone into hiding for his own protection?  Liberty Belle   Dec-06-04 05:25 PM   #239 
  - The last update to his site was on Jul 4, 2004. Anyone have any idea what  mikelewis   Dec-06-04 05:33 PM   #242 
  - Go to the site, go to the 4th page! then,  coreystone   Dec-06-04 05:37 PM   #246 
  - Wrong "Curtis"  mostly_lurking   Dec-06-04 05:39 PM   #248 
  - Smoking gun "IF" we can get Yang to confirm!  EndElectoral   Dec-06-04 05:35 PM   #244 
  - or Mrs. Yang  jsamuel   Dec-06-04 05:41 PM   #251 
  - Can we get a uniform scan to end the authenticity controversy?  smartvoter   Dec-06-04 05:40 PM   #249 
  - Good idea/ eom  BlueDog2u   Dec-06-04 05:41 PM   #252 
  - Yes  Broken Acorn   Dec-06-04 05:44 PM   #253 
  - Woooooohoooooo Go BradBlog!!!!!  IAMREALITY   Dec-06-04 05:45 PM   #255 
  - Hey, Broken Record  Cronus Protagonist   Dec-06-04 05:54 PM   #265 
     - No problem with promotion  Broken Acorn   Dec-06-04 07:08 PM   #290 
        - Well, it does pay to be cautious  Cronus Protagonist   Dec-06-04 07:10 PM   #291 
  - It's really not causing grief, let the doubters do a dan rather  merh   Dec-06-04 06:03 PM   #268 
  - No headline on cnn, yahoo, or msnbc on affidavit yet. nt  wiggs   Dec-06-04 05:50 PM   #259 
  - holy fooking crap!  lonestarnot   Dec-06-04 05:53 PM   #264 
  - W*O*W  Digit   Dec-06-04 06:02 PM   #267 
  - South Florida, Berkely Study Connection  Mr Grieves   Dec-06-04 06:16 PM   #272 
  - Peterson was convicted on circumstantial evidence.  lthuedk   Dec-06-04 06:36 PM   #278 
  - Welcome to DU  senseandsensibility   Dec-06-04 07:57 PM   #301 
     - Thanks!  Mr Grieves   Dec-07-04 12:16 AM   #337 
  - Okay - one point in the affidavit that seems to check out:  Turn CO Blue   Dec-06-04 06:29 PM   #276 
  - Isn't it weird that Feeney was so forthright with Curtis  LittleClarkie   Dec-06-04 06:34 PM   #277 
  - It does seem odd  BlueDog2u   Dec-06-04 08:32 PM   #317 
  - nobody said that criminals were smart  blackspade   Dec-07-04 02:23 PM   #360 
  - Exactly, That's Just Unbelievable  davidlynch   Dec-07-04 01:59 AM   #343 
  - I wish it mentioned SOME detail of the programming  FULL_METAL_HAT   Dec-06-04 06:42 PM   #279 
  - But he wasn't working on a program for the target system.  pointsoflight   Dec-06-04 08:12 PM   #309 
     - I'm missing something  ExCiber   Dec-06-04 08:21 PM   #312 
  - wow  blitzburgh55   Dec-06-04 06:53 PM   #282 
  - It does seem hard to believe Feeney would be so upfront  libertybelle   Dec-06-04 08:03 PM   #305 
  - ya know what's so weird.....I just saw a re-run on Unsolved Mysteries  Sperk   Dec-06-04 07:01 PM   #285 
  - Just Wanted To Let All Of You Know  IAMREALITY   Dec-06-04 07:07 PM   #288 
  - Just so you can see why this is not a fraud doc I did the b&w convert  mikelewis   Dec-06-04 07:25 PM   #295 
  - Thanks Mike  BlueDog2u   Dec-06-04 08:27 PM   #314 
  - If such a program was written once  Tom Rinaldo   Dec-06-04 07:30 PM   #296 
  - Arguments aside regarding the authenticity of the affidavit  Broken Acorn   Dec-06-04 07:37 PM   #299 
  - Wow  IAMREALITY   Dec-06-04 07:38 PM   #300 
  - IAMREALITY IS REALITY - DON'T GET SUCKER PUNCHED  Shalom   Dec-06-04 08:05 PM   #306 
     - Correct. Let's get on with the good stuff.  wiggs   Dec-06-04 08:21 PM   #313 
  - You Hate the Messenger (Curtis): His message is BEAUTIFUL  Shalom   Dec-06-04 08:01 PM   #303 
  - I will eat humble pie if I am wrong  Broken Acorn   Dec-06-04 08:07 PM   #307 
  - First time authors do have this thing. . .  jwmealy   Dec-06-04 08:02 PM   #304 
  - Generate interest at the expense of being sued? I don't think so.  pointsoflight   Dec-06-04 08:15 PM   #310 
  - Ask Mr. Feeney  wiggs   Dec-06-04 08:29 PM   #315 
  - OMG Check out the period on page 3, middle on the right side,  BlueOhio   Dec-06-04 08:44 PM   #318 
  - Ohhhhhhhhh That'sss What That Was!  IAMREALITY   Dec-06-04 08:45 PM   #319 
  - Why was his dog killed today??  buzzard   Dec-06-04 09:05 PM   #321 
  - Which one?  coreystone   Dec-06-04 08:51 PM   #320 
  - Wanted to get this out in case someone missed it  Twist_U_Up   Dec-06-04 09:24 PM   #322 
  - I Know  Unforgiven   Dec-06-04 10:05 PM   #324 
  - Send this info to Madsen and Conyers.  rdmccur   Dec-07-04 12:16 AM   #338 
     - Is It  Unforgiven   Dec-07-04 09:06 PM   #371 
  - Tom Feeney!!! I knew he had something to do with the theft...  Kahuna   Dec-06-04 09:28 PM   #323 
  - nothing on the news about it--not even a dismissal.  rodeodance   Dec-06-04 11:39 PM   #333 
  - CURTS DOG FOUND DEAD!  George W. Hayduke   Dec-07-04 12:57 AM   #339 
  - CLINT CURTIS'S DOG FOUND DEAD!  George W. Hayduke   Dec-07-04 12:58 AM   #340 
  - This Smells Like Nonsense  davidlynch   Dec-07-04 01:55 AM   #342 
  - There are things that bother me about it also  AmyCrat   Dec-07-04 08:05 AM   #345 
  - And he has a book out. See if he promotes it?  Hamoth   Dec-07-04 08:43 AM   #347 
  - I may be missing something, but you seem to be implying ....  Minnesota_Lib   Dec-07-04 09:28 AM   #353 
  - Yes, Curtis Faked It  davidlynch   Dec-07-04 12:40 PM   #359 
     - what?  blackspade   Dec-07-04 02:41 PM   #362 
        - blackspade LOL  IAMREALITY   Dec-07-04 02:44 PM   #363 
  - That deserves a response  Jack Rabbit   Dec-07-04 11:21 AM   #355 
  - Thanks for the very careful analysis  BlueDog2u   Dec-07-04 12:14 PM   #358 
  - I don't think you're thinking this through deeply enough.  jwmealy   Dec-07-04 07:12 PM   #366 
     - Disagree--But Respect Your Views  davidlynch   Dec-07-04 08:16 PM   #369 
        - Nope. . .  jwmealy   Dec-07-04 09:10 PM   #372 
  - 'Very interesting,' said the computer programmer  Jack Rabbit   Dec-07-04 10:53 AM   #354 
  - low posters  FogerRox   Dec-07-04 11:33 AM   #356 
  - Wow  Nederland   Dec-07-04 03:00 PM   #365 
     - Hi, Nederland. It's been a while  Jack Rabbit   Dec-07-04 08:56 PM   #370 
  - kick.  peabody71   Dec-07-04 12:07 PM   #357 
  - Wow.  Dancing_Dave   Dec-07-04 02:54 PM   #364 
  - Am I the only one point out the most obvious point of fraud?  Must_B_Free   Dec-07-04 07:42 PM   #367 
     - Good point--which leads to another!  jwmealy   Dec-07-04 07:59 PM   #368 
 

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