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Sun Dec-05-04 11:35 AM
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| 14. All states have missing votes; they are usually minorities and most Kerry |
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There is a way to check for likely fraud or irregularites in touch screen counties. there was a huge amount of absentee votes and provisional votes this year. All absentee votes are auditable and in most cases so are provisionals. So they represent a very big sample that can be compared to total votes, both to see how the percent votes by candidate match and also by demogrphics to see how representative the sample is. In most cases are found to be a good match but give good indication either way. This can be used to narrow down to counties to follow up on. Note that although the state supervisor is Dem, some counties are Repub, and counties are where the rubber meets the road. an example of a good study doing this is following: Unofficial Audit of NC Election: Comprehensive Case for Fraud http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... ic_id=45003&mesg_id=45003 This is a pretty good case for fraud in North Carolina. |
| -New Mexico Was Blue: 18,659 Missing E-Votes |
ignatzmouse |
Dec-05-04 10:54 AM |
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Damn! And no one was supposed to notice this? |
McCamy Taylor |
Dec-05-04 11:03 AM |
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All states have missing votes; they are usually minorities and most Kerry |
berniew1 |
Dec-05-04 11:35 AM |
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Remember the Complacent Media? "No Voting Problems"; "Despite the Huge... |
BlueCaliDem04 |
Dec-06-04 01:47 PM |
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Good work! |
esvhicl |
Dec-05-04 11:03 AM |
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Thanks! Very interesting reading. New Mexico won't let this go. |
sweetladybug |
Dec-05-04 11:05 AM |
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Once Again, Ignatzmouse |
BlueDog2u |
Dec-05-04 11:07 AM |
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Frankly, the repubs should be demanding an investigation |
dargondogon |
Dec-05-04 11:13 AM |
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Discrepancies subtle but damningly consistent |
Nothing Without Hope |
Dec-05-04 11:15 AM |
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Kick... |
KoKo01 |
Dec-05-04 08:16 PM |
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Really good work...thanks for doing this! |
Merlot |
Dec-05-04 11:15 AM |
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Missing Votes Diminish As Bush Votes Increase |
ignatzmouse |
Dec-05-04 11:26 AM |
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Good answer. Has someone alerted the New Mexico authorities? |
ClintCooper2003 |
Dec-05-04 03:38 PM |
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This also Cliff the lawyer's theory in Ohio same thing! |
lonestarnot |
Dec-05-04 09:58 PM |
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kick |
ccarter84 |
Dec-06-04 01:38 AM |
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That makes a lot of sense |
Nothing Without Hope |
Dec-05-04 11:43 AM |
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They can't hide for much longer. |
tinfoil_beret |
Dec-05-04 11:18 AM |
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Telling trend... I was looking in to a couple of small counties in FL, and |
bj2110 |
Dec-05-04 11:22 AM |
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Why are there more cards cast than registered voters? |
shraby |
Dec-05-04 11:27 AM |
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Why is "Cards Cast" exactly double that of "Votes Counted?" n/t |
bj2110 |
Dec-05-04 01:26 PM |
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Multiple Cards? |
grumpy44 |
Dec-07-04 04:13 PM |
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You can see more detailed analysis for Hardee county & others here: |
berniew1 |
Dec-05-04 11:40 AM |
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Did Florida rotate candidates names like Ohio? |
trudyco |
Dec-05-04 02:07 PM |
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I did read at the last minute, due to the hurricanes, Hardee combined... |
bj2110 |
Dec-05-04 11:23 PM |
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Check Sarpy and Red Willow Counties in Nebraska... |
understandinglife |
Dec-05-04 02:22 PM |
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Has anybody reported this ... |
nmoliver |
Dec-05-04 11:27 AM |
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Forwarded the URL to Rep Conyers, Mr Arnebeck,.... |
understandinglife |
Dec-05-04 11:48 AM |
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Thanks once again ignatzmouse |
libertybelle |
Dec-05-04 11:33 AM |
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you go, ignatzmouse!! wow and gratitude is what i feel!! |
americanwhothinks |
Dec-05-04 11:37 AM |
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I just emailed Keith Olbermann about this |
Nothing Without Hope |
Dec-05-04 11:40 AM |
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Are there exit poll data for comparison? |
Nothing Without Hope |
Dec-05-04 11:48 AM |
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Wasn't Richardson on NPR talking about "we lost the election"? |
Straight Shooter |
Dec-05-04 12:01 PM |
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Richardson and many of these folks aren't computer-savvy. |
ClintCooper2003 |
Dec-05-04 03:40 PM |
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Embarassment? |
Peace Patriot |
Dec-05-04 03:58 PM |
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I like your analysis |
Merlot |
Dec-05-04 06:07 PM |
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You hit the nail on the head. |
RageKage |
Dec-05-04 09:47 PM |
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But what if it was a set up? |
IndyPriest |
Dec-06-04 04:59 PM |
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Again very good analysis! |
rdmccur |
Dec-05-04 12:03 PM |
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We need to get this circulated to the New Mexico people. Ideas? I |
Kralizec |
Dec-05-04 12:06 PM |
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I'm in NM as well (Albuq) |
rdmccur |
Dec-05-04 12:24 PM |
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Yes, Certainly... |
ignatzmouse |
Dec-05-04 12:28 PM |
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Done. |
rdmccur |
Dec-05-04 12:37 PM |
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Yes (n/t) |
ignatzmouse |
Dec-05-04 12:44 PM |
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Ask these organizations to send it to their members: |
Liberty Belle |
Dec-05-04 02:48 PM |
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I'm working on getting these in newspapers, even if it means buying |
Kralizec |
Dec-05-04 03:30 PM |
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Sent to an employee of Election Protection Coalition in NM n/t |
skids |
Dec-05-04 04:03 PM |
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They liked it, BTW. n/t |
skids |
Dec-07-04 04:48 PM |
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Thanks and a kick |
karlrschneider |
Dec-05-04 12:19 PM |
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Thanks for the info! |
Hobbes199 |
Dec-05-04 01:58 PM |
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More great work, ignatz... |
bleever |
Dec-05-04 02:29 PM |
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kick! kick! kick! |
Liberty Belle |
Dec-05-04 02:34 PM |
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Send this to Conyers, Common Cause, & Alliance for Democracy. kick! |
Liberty Belle |
Dec-05-04 02:44 PM |
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How do you figure it swings blue though? |
mulethree |
Dec-05-04 03:02 PM |
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If fraud is the explanation for this then |
ramblin_dave |
Dec-05-04 03:42 PM |
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Sounds like - a cry of 'WOLF' |
mulethree |
Dec-05-04 04:14 PM |
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Red Flags in Blue States |
ignatzmouse |
Dec-06-04 01:57 PM |
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Excellent work. However... |
ClintCooper2003 |
Dec-05-04 03:37 PM |
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The percentage of voters who chose no candidate |
ramblin_dave |
Dec-05-04 03:40 PM |
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Send it to Bill and Richardson and the Sec of State! n/t |
ClintCooper2003 |
Dec-05-04 03:47 PM |
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But spoilage is very much |
igil |
Dec-05-04 03:56 PM |
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If we are right and fraud occurred, this is the perfect opportunity |
Truman01 |
Dec-05-04 03:40 PM |
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Well... |
Peace Patriot |
Dec-05-04 05:49 PM |
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It won't happen unless we believe it! |
rdmccur |
Dec-05-04 08:51 PM |
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Hey any chance you can look at the Nevada data as well? n/t |
ClintCooper2003 |
Dec-05-04 03:42 PM |
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A Look at Nevada |
ignatzmouse |
Dec-06-04 01:17 PM |
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There's BEEN something fishy in NV |
m.standridge |
Dec-07-04 03:51 PM |
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Excellent work. |
skids |
Dec-05-04 03:49 PM |
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Backing anecdotal evidence. |
skids |
Dec-05-04 03:52 PM |
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I'll play devil's advocate. |
igil |
Dec-05-04 03:51 PM |
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A cautious further analysis |
Faun Otter |
Dec-05-04 04:00 PM |
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Excellent both Ignatz Mouse and Faun Otter.......A good comparison for |
KoKo01 |
Dec-05-04 04:10 PM |
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do you have any presumption on service life? |
mulethree |
Dec-05-04 04:22 PM |
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Op scans - something to check |
Faun Otter |
Dec-05-04 04:31 PM |
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Faun, if you have any info "links" or such about "precinct level pre-scan" |
KoKo01 |
Dec-05-04 04:50 PM |
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Correlations need to be calculated before saying either way. |
skids |
Dec-05-04 05:14 PM |
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Correct |
Faun Otter |
Dec-05-04 05:35 PM |
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Your results (and your math) |
rdmccur |
Dec-05-04 08:36 PM |
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Strong Kerry Counties Missing 3.89% to Strong Bush 2.08% |
ignatzmouse |
Dec-06-04 06:52 AM |
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I Have Excel Charts to illustrate if someone can host them (n/t) |
ignatzmouse |
Dec-06-04 06:55 AM |
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WOW--TELL THE NEW MEXICO ATTORNEY GENERAL! |
Dancing_Dave |
Dec-05-04 04:16 PM |
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Thank you for posting this! |
Vote4Kerry |
Dec-05-04 04:33 PM |
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Excellent...forward to Kerry...big kick |
EndElectoral |
Dec-05-04 06:28 PM |
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another brilliant, dedicated DUer good job n/t |
keepthemhonest |
Dec-05-04 08:27 PM |
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We got more votes for Congress than the GOP |
jfern |
Dec-05-04 09:05 PM |
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This Way Exciting! |
lonestarnot |
Dec-05-04 10:02 PM |
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I sent this to the governor |
ColoradoDemocrat |
Dec-05-04 10:01 PM |
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I sent this to Bill R. and friends of mine in NM |
ColoradoDemocrat |
Dec-05-04 10:09 PM |
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Great findings |
RaulVB |
Dec-06-04 12:42 AM |
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Great Work |
Ronbrynaert |
Dec-06-04 01:54 AM |
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Could these "missing" votes be overvotes and undervotes? |
regularjoe |
Dec-06-04 02:11 AM |
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E-vote Missing Rate Was 2.65% vs 0.47% for Op-Scan |
ignatzmouse |
Dec-06-04 06:17 AM |
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Looks suspicious |
regularjoe |
Dec-06-04 10:47 AM |
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precinct info? |
itsjustme |
Dec-06-04 07:08 AM |
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Precinct data |
ignatzmouse |
Dec-06-04 09:02 AM |
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Socorro County |
itsjustme |
Dec-07-04 01:06 PM |
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kick n/t |
bj2110 |
Dec-06-04 04:31 PM |
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kick - n/t |
Kralizec |
Dec-06-04 06:22 PM |
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kick again |
bj2110 |
Dec-06-04 10:57 PM |
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kick |
truehawk |
Dec-07-04 02:25 AM |
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Love that number crunchin! |
jamboi |
Dec-07-04 05:45 AM |
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kick |
MonkeeMon |
Dec-07-04 12:26 PM |
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and the media says" no problems here, |
bmoney07 |
Dec-07-04 01:10 PM |
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I love that mouse! |
jmknapp |
Dec-07-04 03:56 PM |
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Dilemma |
ignatzmouse |
Dec-08-04 02:55 AM |
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Is it possible there were ashamed republicans but just couldn't .. |
mod mom |
Dec-07-04 04:01 PM |
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EIRS Complaints Confirm NM E-Voting Problems |
ignatzmouse |
Dec-07-04 04:37 PM |
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Beautiful love this thread -- kick to the top! |
senegal1 |
Dec-08-04 03:22 AM |
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suggest posting in Demopedia |
MonkeeMon |
Dec-09-04 11:13 AM |
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I agree demopedia for this one n/t |
electropop |
Dec-09-04 11:18 AM |
#108 |
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