Gman2
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Wed Aug-26-09 04:46 PM
Response to Reply #31 |
| 33. IT is far better to hash this out among friends, than in the media. |
| -Cancer drugs fail to win NHS funding |
acsmith |
Aug-26-09 03:30 PM |
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Gee. I wonder how many approved drugs or treatments are...... |
Bonhomme Richard |
Aug-26-09 03:38 PM |
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I don't know... |
acsmith |
Aug-26-09 03:42 PM |
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there is a LOT of treatments and drugs that are refused here |
Donnachaidh |
Aug-26-09 03:44 PM |
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Aug-26-09 03:48 PM |
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We who seemingly want a civil debate are fairly quick to debase this into name calling |
digidigido |
Aug-26-09 04:06 PM |
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Aug-26-09 05:06 PM |
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the point is that... |
acsmith |
Aug-26-09 04:06 PM |
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That's odd - really. |
enlightenment |
Aug-26-09 04:24 PM |
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from last year but... |
acsmith |
Aug-26-09 04:54 PM |
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The strange thing is that when you wade through them as I did last week, they've improved |
muriel_volestrangler |
Aug-27-09 06:49 AM |
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That was clearly uncalled for!! |
SkyDaddy7 |
Aug-26-09 06:31 PM |
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Every large health insurance company has the equivalent. |
Gormy Cuss |
Aug-26-09 04:00 PM |
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the citizens can not change the list |
acsmith |
Aug-26-09 04:14 PM |
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Apparently the Swiss are feeling the economic pinch if its citizens are taking pay to post on boards |
Doremus |
Aug-26-09 04:52 PM |
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CERN |
acsmith |
Aug-26-09 05:10 PM |
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I didn't think my original post was so controversial |
acsmith |
Aug-26-09 05:15 PM |
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I am sorry to see that a DU member is giving you |
joeycola |
Aug-26-09 05:39 PM |
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It's hard for citizens to change the list, true. |
mwooldri |
Aug-26-09 05:09 PM |
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Uh, didn't say they could change it, but if enough are unhappy with it, polits can change it. |
Gormy Cuss |
Aug-26-09 08:06 PM |
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Yes but being told to go crawl off into a hole and die has a much nicer personal touch coming from a |
Wizard777 |
Aug-26-09 04:21 PM |
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"not yet evidence of dramatic results" |
Barack_America |
Aug-26-09 03:41 PM |
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The further outrage is, most drugs are NOT new, they are repatented for new disease |
Gman2 |
Aug-26-09 04:21 PM |
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That is not the way it works... |
rexcat |
Aug-27-09 12:19 AM |
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From what I can see in this slim report, it was a *results based* decision. |
pinto |
Aug-26-09 03:43 PM |
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The NHS is Great At Being Evidence-Based |
MannyGoldstein |
Aug-26-09 03:52 PM |
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costly drugs with NO evidence of dramatic results |
Donnachaidh |
Aug-26-09 03:43 PM |
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I really don't see a problem here. |
stopbush |
Aug-26-09 03:43 PM |
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Exactly |
dipsydoodle |
Aug-26-09 05:11 PM |
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Good Lord! What do you imagine insurance companies do here? |
Zen Democrat |
Aug-26-09 03:44 PM |
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on your final point you are wrong |
acsmith |
Aug-26-09 03:51 PM |
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The EXACT same thing happens here with insurance companies |
prolesunited |
Aug-26-09 04:32 PM |
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You are talking pure bullshit. |
Nihil |
Aug-27-09 06:55 AM |
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Aug-26-09 03:47 PM |
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FYI, the FT is -- |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Aug-26-09 03:50 PM |
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actually |
acsmith |
Aug-26-09 03:57 PM |
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It is a conservative paper for the monied. |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Aug-26-09 04:05 PM |
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but your point was |
acsmith |
Aug-26-09 04:08 PM |
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Nope, FT is a conservative paper whose READERS may be anti-NHS. |
mwooldri |
Aug-26-09 05:12 PM |
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More People Will Live More Years Because Of This Decision |
MannyGoldstein |
Aug-26-09 03:51 PM |
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Perhaps it's not as stark as you think it is |
Warpy |
Aug-26-09 03:57 PM |
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unless they cure they extend suffering |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Aug-26-09 04:03 PM |
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Exactly, and the desperate search for a little more time |
Warpy |
Aug-26-09 05:40 PM |
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Of course they do, and that is why for instance, breast cancer |
JeanGrey |
Aug-27-09 07:14 AM |
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I didn't want to mention it before because I thought it was irrelevant |
acsmith |
Aug-26-09 04:19 PM |
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that has nothing to do with the system. That is because there is a shortage of organs. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Aug-27-09 11:50 AM |
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I possibly can answer that. I have stage four cancer that |
JeanGrey |
Aug-27-09 07:13 AM |
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Our private insurers do the same. n/t |
Cleita |
Aug-26-09 04:04 PM |
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I am sure they do... |
acsmith |
Aug-26-09 04:24 PM |
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Based On What? |
Mark D. |
Aug-26-09 04:43 PM |
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Most of us don't want NHC like you have in Britain. |
Cleita |
Aug-26-09 05:10 PM |
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A Few Things |
Mark D. |
Aug-26-09 04:35 PM |
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IT is far better to hash this out among friends, than in the media. |
Gman2 |
Aug-26-09 04:46 PM |
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. |
acsmith |
Aug-26-09 05:08 PM |
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Thanks |
Mark D. |
Aug-26-09 05:21 PM |
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don't get me wrong |
acsmith |
Aug-26-09 05:43 PM |
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bottom line: it wasn't beneficial so why pay money for it |
tomm2thumbs |
Aug-26-09 05:01 PM |
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Some of these drugs are as useful as those Bridges in Alaska... |
mwooldri |
Aug-26-09 05:13 PM |
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Oh, it would be "graphic" enough for me. |
JeanGrey |
Aug-26-09 08:57 PM |
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to be honest, I don't see what is wrong with restricting funding for |
dugaresa |
Aug-27-09 06:04 AM |
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So instead of admitting that "Deat Panels" don't exist, you're redefining what constitutes one? |
Dutch |
Aug-27-09 06:38 AM |
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