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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 11:27 PM
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60. Speech has led to more death than the existence of a weapon
stalin organized the murder of millions without firing a shot. Lets cut the bullshit. You can change the constitution, that will never happen. You have no votes. Never Ever. You can try to stack the courts, that will lead to a republican administration.

You can try to change the laws in congress, that will lead to a republican administration. You have as much chance bringing back Jim Crow.

You can actually fix the root cause that makes america more violent than places like canada, finland, switzerland, etc with similar laws and access. See that is hard no one wants to push for mental health care, abolish drug laws, and educate people who are killing each other.

Shuck and jive is easier than substance.
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  -*another* cop ambushed in WA state paulsby  Feb-13-10 09:46 PM   #0 
  - How terrible.  Quantess   Feb-13-10 09:48 PM   #1 
  - we had one here in Anchorage. I think its aryans or a militia.  roguevalley   Feb-14-10 10:15 PM   #94 
     - There, in Anchorage?  Quantess   Feb-15-10 11:41 PM   #110 
        - no one knows who did it and he's getting better. just drove up and  roguevalley   Feb-16-10 01:36 AM   #113 
  - That's quite enough, dammit  tavalon   Feb-13-10 09:49 PM   #2 
  - Gee, if only they were allowed to carry guns...  baldguy   Feb-13-10 09:53 PM   #3 
  - He is alive. He's laughing, joking, and improving.  sharesunited   Feb-13-10 09:55 PM   #4 
  - That Bill of Rights really burns you up, huh?  Edweird   Feb-13-10 10:09 PM   #6 
  - I certainly support the right of anyone to enlist if they want to play with guns.  sharesunited   Feb-13-10 10:15 PM   #7 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-13-10 10:24 PM   #9 
  - The armory is precisely where they ought be kept.  sharesunited   Feb-13-10 10:28 PM   #11 
     - A select fire weapon was by far the least destructive thing I ever laid hands on  Pavulon   Feb-13-10 10:33 PM   #16 
        - You were well regulated, indoctrinated, drilled, and subjected to discipline.  sharesunited   Feb-13-10 10:37 PM   #21 
           - You obviously have never experienced Army edge on life  Pavulon   Feb-13-10 10:42 PM   #24 
           - Since they were not in prison, it is reasonable to conclude that they are more or less  sharesunited   Feb-13-10 10:55 PM   #36 
              - I worry about cars, heart disease, and cancer  Pavulon   Feb-13-10 10:59 PM   #42 
                 - So WHY do you support that? F-ups having guns, I mean? Why would you think it's a good thing?  sharesunited   Feb-13-10 11:06 PM   #52 
                    - The same reason I support f ups having free speech.  Pavulon   Feb-13-10 11:13 PM   #56 
                       - The risk of killing or crippling themselves or others is the important difference.  sharesunited   Feb-13-10 11:20 PM   #58 
                          - Speech has led to more death than the existence of a weapon  Pavulon   Feb-13-10 11:27 PM   #60 
                             - Jezuz what a load of bull  Buzz cook   Feb-21-10 01:58 AM   #117 
           - "Well regulated" in revolutionary times, meant something different.  immoderate   Feb-13-10 11:03 PM   #50 
           - I won't get any help from willful misinterpretations of the 2nd, THAT's for sure!  sharesunited   Feb-13-10 11:09 PM   #54 
              - And you won't get help from accurate interpretations either.  immoderate   Feb-14-10 12:21 AM   #71 
                 - Quaint, obsolete mysticism on Hamilton's part. With literally no modern relevance or applicability.  sharesunited   Feb-14-10 12:40 AM   #74 
                    - I like my red herrings pickled, with onions and cream sauce.  immoderate   Feb-14-10 05:31 PM   #89 
                       - Ouch.  beevul   Feb-15-10 12:23 AM   #101 
                          - It's almost like MrBenchley was back.  immoderate   Feb-15-10 11:25 AM   #107 
                             - Heavens no!! Anything but that.  beevul   Feb-15-10 11:29 PM   #109 
                                - LOL!  immoderate   Feb-16-10 02:26 AM   #114 
           - The problem with YOUR interpretation  MicaelS   Feb-14-10 10:29 PM   #97 
  - I enlisted, and I now own guns.  Vickers   Feb-13-10 10:29 PM   #13 
  - What you support, plus 50 cents, will get you a newspaper. Nobody cares.  Edweird   Feb-13-10 10:34 PM   #17 
  - Well, now. I find it disgusting that there is a tragedy every day which makes my point.  sharesunited   Feb-13-10 11:02 PM   #49 
     - Yeah, but we've had quite enough of 'give up your rights and you'll be safe'.  Edweird   Feb-13-10 11:09 PM   #53 
     - I find your authoritarianism disgusting.  proteus_lives   Feb-13-10 11:34 PM   #62 
     - You find it so disgusting you have made a game out of it.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Feb-15-10 10:48 AM   #105 
  - Already did that. Glad to hear you approve of my continued use.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Feb-14-10 10:12 PM   #93 
  - It's always impressive to watch the rationalizers hide behind far right misinterpretations  depakid   Feb-13-10 10:29 PM   #12 
  - So, everyone - except you - is wrong, huh? Good luck with that.  Edweird   Feb-13-10 10:32 PM   #15 
  - Nope- Just Scalia et al.  depakid   Feb-13-10 10:34 PM   #18 
     - Maybe you should go tell them how great Australia is. I'm sure that'll sway them.  Edweird   Feb-13-10 10:38 PM   #23 
        - Actually- if more Americans travelled and spent quality time abroad they could see for themselves  depakid   Feb-13-10 10:46 PM   #26 
           - Your firewall is looking like the one I worked behind in China  Pavulon   Feb-13-10 10:49 PM   #31 
           - It must suck rooting for the losing (and unpopular) side.  Edweird   Feb-13-10 10:51 PM   #32 
              - It is frustrating when the opposition has such little validity.  sharesunited   Feb-13-10 11:32 PM   #61 
                 - I know, I know.. If we would only give up our rights, everything would be perfect.  Edweird   Feb-13-10 11:36 PM   #65 
                    - Your right to what, though, and for what reason? Seldom anything offered except Because.  sharesunited   Feb-13-10 11:59 PM   #69 
                       - Rights don't require justification. What part of that is confusing you?  Edweird   Feb-14-10 12:12 AM   #70 
  - Here is reality for you. Right after Jesus christ returns to preach at madison square garden  Pavulon   Feb-13-10 10:37 PM   #22 
  - The problem...  beevul   Feb-14-10 11:26 PM   #99 
  - There you see? The Bill of Rights is so vibrant & malleable you can shoot a cop then behind the 2nd  bridgit   Feb-13-10 10:48 PM   #28 
     - That post is incoherent, please try again.  rd_kent   Feb-13-10 10:57 PM   #39 
     - You try again, that was feeble on your part  bridgit   Feb-13-10 11:01 PM   #46 
        - I'm serious. Your post seems to be missing some words.  rd_kent   Feb-13-10 11:02 PM   #48 
           - Your point is that it is OK to shoot & kill cops? The gist if the OP, if you care to remember...  bridgit   Feb-13-10 11:11 PM   #55 
              - No, the pro gun posters here don't support gun crime.  sharesunited   Feb-13-10 11:35 PM   #63 
              - News flash, genius  C_Lawyer09   Feb-14-10 01:27 AM   #76 
              - Since this is the first post in weeks from you that makes any sense at all, I wil respond.  rd_kent   Feb-14-10 09:41 AM   #78 
              - No, my point is that your post is incoherent. Did I say anything else? NO, so stop projecting.  rd_kent   Feb-14-10 09:34 AM   #77 
                 - Stop stalking, its unattractive and ill-advised  bridgit   Feb-14-10 11:05 AM   #83 
     - I think your post is missing some words.  Edweird   Feb-13-10 10:58 PM   #41 
        - Oh, please do: which ones?  bridgit   Feb-13-10 10:59 PM   #44 
           - Beats me. All I know is that it doesn't make any sense.  Edweird   Feb-13-10 11:03 PM   #51 
              - Then allow me to explain a few of yours: you think its fine to ambush & kill cops...  bridgit   Feb-13-10 11:17 PM   #57 
                 - Please quote where I have stated any such thing.  Edweird   Feb-13-10 11:25 PM   #59 
                 - "quote" you, you're too clever for that - you'll seldom if ever come out and say what *you* mean...  bridgit   Feb-14-10 10:51 AM   #81 
                    - I'm truly sorry for your loss.  Edweird   Feb-14-10 11:21 AM   #84 
                       - Eh, its all good - I later discovered I was made out of rubber...  bridgit   Feb-14-10 09:45 PM   #92 
                 - umm wtf are you talking about? I didnt read that in that post at all.  winyanstaz   Feb-14-10 12:26 AM   #73 
                 - So, you accused this poster of the same thing you accused me of? WTF?  rd_kent   Feb-14-10 09:42 AM   #79 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-14-10 11:03 AM   #82 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-14-10 11:43 AM   #85 
                          - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-14-10 09:40 PM   #91 
                          - Making "incoherent" posts is a TS-able *offense* here at DU, are you suggesting I be TS'd?  bridgit   Feb-14-10 11:14 PM   #98 
                             - Would anyone else care to suggest I be TS'd, cause my membership is nearly up...  bridgit   Feb-14-10 11:32 PM   #100 
  - You guys are oxygen thieves. ^  Pavulon   Feb-13-10 10:21 PM   #8 
  - You're the anachronism here- and the burden on society as incidents like this reveal all too clearly  depakid   Feb-13-10 10:32 PM   #14 
     - o yes...give up your guns like England did....  winyanstaz   Feb-13-10 10:36 PM   #19 
     - Guess what? We already did- with excellent results  depakid   Feb-13-10 10:53 PM   #35 
     - I understand families living in the outback/countryside in your country...  winyanstaz   Feb-13-10 10:58 PM   #40 
     - Whoever told you that doesn't have the first clue what they're talking about  depakid   Feb-13-10 11:45 PM   #67 
        - If you had bothered to follow the link you would have seen I was quoting  winyanstaz   Feb-14-10 12:22 AM   #72 
           - Welp, the peer reviewed science didn't find significant substitution effects  depakid   Feb-14-10 12:44 AM   #75 
              - Would this be an argument from authority or an argumentum ad populum?  friendly_iconoclast   Feb-15-10 10:13 AM   #104 
     - The majority of murders in the US are criminal vs. criminal. See how much we have in common.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Feb-14-10 10:17 PM   #96 
     - Excellent point!  proteus_lives   Feb-13-10 11:36 PM   #64 
     - Can you get here from NSW? That new firewall is online now.  Pavulon   Feb-13-10 10:44 PM   #25 
     - LOL. dishonesty in pursuit of obsession knows no bounds, does it?  depakid   Feb-13-10 10:49 PM   #30 
        - It is for the greater good, protect the children!!  Pavulon   Feb-13-10 10:53 PM   #34 
           - One last time per your digression  depakid   Feb-13-10 10:57 PM   #38 
              - The sure tried really hard. You own government  Pavulon   Feb-13-10 11:01 PM   #47 
     - I hear Canada is about to do away with their abomination. Of course, Mexico is a great success.  Edweird   Feb-13-10 10:47 PM   #27 
     - I think the anti-American chauvanism is a bit of a displacement mechanism for you  friendly_iconoclast   Feb-13-10 10:53 PM   #33 
     - Just unique perspective on the inherent problems you face- and are seemingly incapable of solving  depakid   Feb-13-10 11:00 PM   #45 
        - I stand corrected- it's not chauvanism, it's flat-out xenophobia  friendly_iconoclast   Feb-13-10 11:40 PM   #66 
           - Grasping for straws- and in denial, like an addict justifying their habit.  depakid   Feb-13-10 11:56 PM   #68 
              - Repeatedly proclaiming the inferiority of another society *is* xenophobia  friendly_iconoclast   Feb-14-10 01:43 PM   #87 
              - Reality check  depakid   Feb-14-10 05:56 PM   #90 
              - I might remind you of what a cynic once said:  friendly_iconoclast   Feb-14-10 02:09 PM   #88 
     - Perhaps that will happen in the fantasy world you seem to live in.  rd_kent   Feb-13-10 10:59 PM   #43 
  - Why do you hate the Constitution so much?  rd_kent   Feb-13-10 10:55 PM   #37 
  - You stay classy now!  Tejas   Feb-14-10 12:59 PM   #86 
  - The patrolman who was shot is a member of the Second Amendment Foundation  quiller4   Feb-15-10 11:38 AM   #108 
  - it is beyond old, and i am sorry. nt  seabeyond   Feb-13-10 09:56 PM   #5 
  - it's a terrible thing, totally unacceptable in a civilized society  tularetom   Feb-13-10 10:28 PM   #10 
  - Jeebus Christ on a crutch!  SeattleGirl   Feb-13-10 10:36 PM   #20 
  - Every time I hear of a cop killing in Wa. I worry it might be either of my 2 brothers.  dixiegrrrrl   Feb-13-10 10:49 PM   #29 
  - I like cops  madokie   Feb-14-10 09:46 AM   #80 
  - That's probably good advice dealing with about anyone. nt  Robb   Feb-14-10 10:15 PM   #95 
  - This has been an incredibly civil discussion  tkmorris   Feb-15-10 01:03 AM   #102 
  - Racist Bigot Mike Hope is a big cause.  JetCityLiberal   Feb-15-10 01:25 AM   #103 
  - What in the hell are you talking about?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Feb-15-10 10:56 AM   #106 
  - JetCityLiberal got the granite pizza.  Quantess   Feb-22-10 01:05 AM   #118 
  - Saw that story, bummer.  upi402   Feb-15-10 11:45 PM   #111 
  - Wow. That's not the Long Beach I know.  stevedeshazer   Feb-15-10 11:53 PM   #112 
  - I once saw an "A well armed society is a polite society" bumper sticker. I shot him  Bucky   Feb-16-10 04:49 AM   #115 
  - What do you think the common link is  Wash. state Desk Jet   Feb-17-10 01:14 AM   #116 

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