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BillORightsMan Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 05:22 PM
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38. Hear! Hear! for paper ballots!
Once again, I present to you:

:applause:****PAPER, PEN & PEOPLE**** :applause:
1. Paper and pen is the obvious choice for casting ballots.
2. Instead of having appointed people, there should be a pool of all registered voters, that are picked AT RANDOM, much like the way jurors are picked. (Perhaps BOE officials should be elected, too!)
3. Add to this that companies MUST give employees PAID days off for training and working Election Day. It's OUR Republic and OUR democracy! Let the voters run their own elections! Tell me, what red-blooded, patriotic American wouldn't take two PAID days off work to ensure their democracy is working? Give the voters OWNERSHIP of the PROCESS! Power to the People!
4. This would also include no funny black boxes counting votes: Paper and pen and hand counting. This is how they STILL do it in Canada! No more republican-backed companies (ES&S, Diebold, Sequoia, TRIAD, et. al.) getting a WAD of OUR TAX $$$ on bogus, insecure machines and stealing our elections! Use Web-Cams to monitor the voting and counting, too.
5. Each precinct can use a simple adding machine with a triplicate paper tape. They FAX their results to the BOE of their county. The same process is repeated for counties to report totals to the state BOE. Instant Paper Trail!

I'd add that IF we MUST use ANY electronic tabulation, that it be OPEN-SOURCE code, available to the General Public for review. (Australia uses this now.) Hardware would also have to be scrutinized, since WiFi can easily be incorporated in any electronic device - takes about three chips.

Also, the paper ballots could use any number of security devices, similar to how money and checks are printed (microprint, bar codes, security threads and so forth) to prevent ballot duplication.

BUT Paper Pen and People should be the way of the day! Any electronic machine (especially the central tabulators) can break down or be hacked, no matter how secure!
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  -any guesses why issues 2,3,4,5 failed ? MeDeMax  Nov-08-05 10:14 PM   #0 
  - Could it be ....DIEBOLD?  BattyDem   Nov-08-05 10:15 PM   #1 
  - It could be, but probably not.  Kukesa   Nov-09-05 09:16 AM   #27 
     - Don't you have "interpretive statements" on the ballot?  BattyDem   Nov-09-05 02:21 PM   #31 
     - No "interpretive statements" for us.  Kukesa   Nov-09-05 02:38 PM   #32 
     - Many of the County Dem Chairs opposed RON....  femrap   Nov-10-05 02:22 PM   #44 
  - I'm really disappointed about 5.  kansasblue   Nov-08-05 10:15 PM   #2 
  - 4 was the only one in doubt  MeDeMax   Nov-08-05 10:46 PM   #12 
  - Paper ballots NOW!!! Hand counts NOW!!! n/t  In Truth We Trust   Nov-08-05 10:19 PM   #3 
  - Hear! Hear! for paper ballots!  BillORightsMan   Nov-09-05 05:22 PM   #38 
  - The republicans  Epiphany4z   Nov-08-05 10:20 PM   #4 
  - no clue  zoeybug   Nov-08-05 10:21 PM   #5 
  - successful campaign to confuse, I think.  Lerkfish   Nov-08-05 10:28 PM   #6 
  - I bet the noncompetes on those issues will be really high...  rosebud57   Nov-09-05 08:17 AM   #22 
  - Unions? I'm in Dayton where DELPHI lives (for a while at least),  Kukesa   Nov-09-05 09:21 AM   #28 
  - Diebold, Diebold, Diebold  darkmaestro019   Nov-08-05 10:28 PM   #7 
  - People just didn't know  sph812   Nov-08-05 10:33 PM   #8 
  - yes we do  dennis00   Nov-08-05 10:43 PM   #11 
  - my mistake  dennis00   Nov-08-05 11:04 PM   #15 
  - Welcome to DU,dennis, and I agree  Kukesa   Nov-09-05 02:44 PM   #33 
  - Half the counties (44 of 'em) have Diebold machines.  Kukesa   Nov-09-05 01:31 PM   #29 
     - Diabolical Diebold? "44 counties" link...  BillORightsMan   Nov-09-05 04:57 PM   #34 
     - Thanx, BOR Man. Thanx a lot. n/t  Kukesa   Nov-09-05 05:14 PM   #36 
     - Chiming in here  jen4clark   Nov-10-05 09:48 AM   #42 
     - Diebold machines  dennis00   Nov-09-05 11:49 PM   #40 
        - Welcome to DU, Dennis! Glad to have you! n/t  Kukesa   Nov-10-05 04:00 PM   #46 
  - Because people either voted for or against all of them?  asthmaticeog   Nov-08-05 10:39 PM   #9 
  - i am beyond words  557188   Nov-08-05 10:43 PM   #10 
  - Welcome to DU.  asthmaticeog   Nov-08-05 10:52 PM   #14 
  - Hi 557188!!  newyawker99   Nov-14-05 11:17 AM   #47 
  - Uh...well, of course...fear-and-smear  kevinbgoode   Nov-08-05 10:47 PM   #13 
  - low voter turnout  JWS   Nov-09-05 01:24 AM   #16 
  - My guess? Money.  VolcanoJen   Nov-09-05 01:33 AM   #17 
  - f-f-f-f-f-fear factor  48percenter   Nov-09-05 04:05 AM   #18 
  - One of the comical "attacks", to me, was  zbdent   Nov-09-05 06:41 AM   #19 
  - Write that up and send it to the Pee Dee  TheBorealAvenger   Nov-09-05 08:03 AM   #20 
     - Run by Alex Macheske?  zbdent   Nov-09-05 08:39 AM   #24 
        - They might not run it, but they will read it  TheBorealAvenger   Nov-09-05 08:50 AM   #26 
  - I am in OH, I am a policy wonk who gets all the emails from all the  rosebud57   Nov-09-05 08:15 AM   #21 
  - I agree with rosebuds. Simple Simon mentality among voters.  Ninga   Nov-09-05 08:25 AM   #23 
  - some NE ohio newspapers gave a nod on 2, no position on 3 and  MeDeMax   Nov-09-05 08:46 AM   #25 
  - I can't believe it swung so far on all 4 issues. n/t  racsan   Nov-09-05 01:42 PM   #30 
  - Hi racsan!!  newyawker99   Nov-14-05 11:19 AM   #48 
  - If it wasn't Diebold Mystery Machinations...  BillORightsMan   Nov-09-05 05:12 PM   #35 
  - Welcome to DU, BillORightsMan, Welcome! n/t  Kukesa   Nov-09-05 05:18 PM   #37 
  - I know why the issues failed.  pro_blue_guy   Nov-09-05 06:48 PM   #39 
  - Several Factors  MostlyLurks   Nov-10-05 09:06 AM   #41 
  - California has a voter guide with DEBATES in it!  moontaurus   Nov-10-05 02:10 PM   #43 
     - The Voter Guides in CA....does the Sec'y of State  femrap   Nov-10-05 02:40 PM   #45 
     - Hi moontaurus!!  newyawker99   Nov-14-05 11:20 AM   #49 

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