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124. I love these threads
Edited on Mon Mar-23-09 12:24 AM by The Traveler
The self-righteous identify themselves quite easily.

The Buddha observed that to live is to suffer. The correct way to deal with that, according to that tradition, is to seek enlightenment. That probably is the best way to proceed.

For most, life is a struggle waged against ever increasing levels of pain. So, why give people so much crap about taking some pleasure in life? If you live long enough, some agonizing, degenerative disease will take you out of this world not long after the doctors and drug companies have sucked your bank accounts dry. It might as well be lung cancer, in my viewpoint. In fact, I would prefer it to Alzheimer's.Just me. Ironically,

I know lots of self-righteous anti-smokers who are, frankly, obese. They seek comfort in food. I prefer a smoke with a cup of coffee ... or maybe a shot of Irish whiskey. Both approaches are inferior to the quest for enlightenment and are certain to lead to an earlier grave. The difference is the self righteous prefer to tax my vice, though according to recent studies McDonald's is at least a lethal as Marlboro.

It is easy to quit smoking. I have done it hundreds of times (sorry, Mr. Clemens). Staying quit does seem to be the greater challenge. Actually, staying out of jail without nicotine might be the greater challenge. I will never claim to be a poster child for mental health. I've long ago figured out that I smoke for your comfort and safety. And I know I am not the only brave soul around these parts who risks cancer for your well being and the greater good of our communities.

But do the self righteous gonks around here express any appreciation for our sacrifice? Of course not. They are, after all, the morally superior. This has been made abundantly clear, many, many times. It reminds me, frankly, of the puritanical monologues I encountered as a boy in various churches of the South. I didn't care for it much them. I find it kinda funny now, when some 150 lbs overweight goober lectures me about my health choices.

I really don't give a crap about the opinions of the new Puritans. But it is kinda nice to know who they are ...

In truth, I am once again trying to live tobacco free. So far, only small appliances and a recalcitrant Windows box have suffered the consequences. I might make it this time. Then again, I might again suffer ignominious failure. I can do all manner of difficult things, but quiting the filthy weed thus far has not been one of them. Alas. At least I will go to my grave knowing that I will have missed the last 5-10 WORST years or so of my best case life span, and I will have a hell of a lot more fun and friendship than most of ya. Have fun with the degenerative brain diseases that await the clean living! :evilgrin:


** edited because while Trav may sometime quit smoking, he apparently will NEVER spell check BEFORE posting! **

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  -Smokers fume as prices jump ahead of fed tax hike Robbien  Mar-19-09 08:31 PM   #0 
  - I stopped smoking  Andy823   Mar-19-09 08:36 PM   #1 
  - Perhaps a better choice than using that chemical infested crap  HysteryDiagnosis   Mar-19-09 08:39 PM   #2 
  - I roll my own  marketcrazy1   Mar-19-09 08:45 PM   #5 
     - Ditto  Titonwan   Mar-19-09 08:56 PM   #10 
     - Gee, That's Really Great.  Paladin   Mar-19-09 09:37 PM   #21 
        - Would you like to post all of your habits for critique?  Runcible Spoon   Mar-19-09 09:38 PM   #22 
        - Yeah, There's One Personal Habit I'll Admit To You:  Paladin   Mar-19-09 10:02 PM   #25 
        - "It improves the gene pool"  SOS   Mar-21-09 01:14 PM   #85 
           - Sartre Was A Smoker?  Paladin   Mar-21-09 01:24 PM   #86 
           - And yet the "improving the gene pool" comment remains  SOS   Mar-21-09 02:47 PM   #89 
           - LOL!!!  Solitaire   Sep-16-09 12:36 PM   #136 
        - LOL - "Being a righteous asshole results in higher healthcare costs for those around you "  ConcernedCanuk   Mar-19-09 10:04 PM   #26 
        - Better that than from sucking down your car exhaust every day on my bike ride to work.  Abacus   Mar-19-09 10:28 PM   #29 
        - You ought to be thanking the smokers  Abq_Sarah   Mar-20-09 12:46 AM   #33 
        - Who the hell do you think is funding the new SCHIP expansion?  Mauibob   Apr-02-09 09:27 PM   #135 
        - You're a big ball of sunshine, aren't you?  HarukaTheTrophyWife   Mar-20-09 01:02 PM   #56 
        - Paladin, you sound very judgmental toward smokers  sweetladybug   Mar-20-09 06:15 PM   #65 
        - I Have No Problem With People Smoking, As Long As They Keep It To Themselves  Paladin   Mar-20-09 06:49 PM   #69 
        - You act as if smoking courtesy doesn't exist.  joshcryer   Mar-22-09 06:09 AM   #112 
           - "My Own Little World" Is Currently Colorado.  Paladin   Mar-22-09 10:14 AM   #114 
        - So? He's right  anigbrowl   Mar-21-09 10:37 PM   #101 
        - An immortal?  Seldona   Mar-20-09 06:20 PM   #67 
     - I do the same thing! I've stocked enough tobacco to last 6 months  santamargarita   Mar-19-09 08:57 PM   #11 
     - I can roll 3 packs with my hand lever machine  marketcrazy1   Mar-19-09 09:11 PM   #13 
        - The electric machine will do that, but not as good of quality as the hand crank  santamargarita   Mar-19-09 09:31 PM   #18 
     - we've been doing the same  radfringe   Mar-20-09 10:26 AM   #50 
     - Could you recommend a website to buy  ohheckyeah   Mar-21-09 09:13 PM   #99 
        - Ditto this, please post info about this.  joshcryer   Mar-22-09 06:03 AM   #109 
  - i hope they boycott cigarettes  CreekDog   Mar-19-09 08:42 PM   #3 
  - It's getting ridiculous  Rage for Order   Mar-19-09 08:43 PM   #4 
  - Exactly. It is surprising how much clout the tobacco lobby has lost  Robbien   Mar-19-09 08:55 PM   #9 
  - Smoking is a luxury.  wickerwoman   Mar-21-09 05:49 PM   #93 
     - Maybe you also don't care that  pipoman   Mar-21-09 07:38 PM   #96 
        - Yes, exactly.  wickerwoman   Mar-21-09 08:54 PM   #97 
           - My point is that you said yourself  pipoman   Mar-21-09 09:10 PM   #98 
              - Price might have stopped them,  wickerwoman   Mar-21-09 10:10 PM   #100 
                 - There's something they may not have considered  Rage for Order   Mar-21-09 10:46 PM   #103 
                 - From later in the same article:  wickerwoman   Mar-22-09 01:34 PM   #119 
                 - I was going to let it go until I came to this last paragraph  pipoman   Mar-22-09 06:49 AM   #113 
                    - Just answer this:  wickerwoman   Mar-22-09 01:18 PM   #118 
                       - Yes, it is necessary to the  ohheckyeah   Mar-22-09 07:53 PM   #123 
                       - ask yourself this: is car driving necessary to human survival?  provis99   Mar-29-09 11:55 PM   #133 
  - Not to mention  Titonwan   Mar-19-09 09:00 PM   #12 
  - What many do not realize is that Bill Clinton originally came to DC  Samantha   Mar-20-09 12:19 AM   #32 
     - The Clintons banned smoking from the WH, but not drinking. When challenged,  No Elephants   Mar-20-09 06:54 AM   #40 
        - I read this in the bio of Clinton's career -- The Natural  Samantha   Mar-20-09 09:07 AM   #49 
  - Wine isn't just for the wealthy  NutmegYankee   Mar-19-09 09:31 PM   #17 
  - It doesn't have to be a tax on wine, per se  Rage for Order   Mar-19-09 10:50 PM   #30 
  - Really  Art_from_Ark   Mar-23-09 10:41 PM   #130 
  - wine is for the wealthy. or arrogant yuppie snobs.  provis99   Mar-29-09 11:57 PM   #134 
  - Because wine is good for you. nt  Codeine   Mar-19-09 09:48 PM   #23 
  - Only for men and only in very small quantities. For women, even one glass daily seems harmful.  No Elephants   Mar-20-09 06:59 AM   #41 
  - I Saw That. I Think It's Ridiculous  NashVegas   Mar-20-09 11:27 AM   #55 
  - Wine can also cause drunkenness AND  sweetladybug   Mar-20-09 06:20 PM   #66 
  - it may be regressive...  PittPoliSci   Mar-20-09 02:36 AM   #35 
  - Eh...  christx30   Mar-20-09 05:50 PM   #64 
  - Don't smoke and never have, but just the other day I saw cigarettes  rocktivity   Mar-19-09 08:49 PM   #6 
  - Europeans are already paying more...  Proletariatprincess   Mar-19-09 08:53 PM   #7 
  - Not true^  Sivafae   Mar-21-09 12:58 AM   #79 
  - brand went up about 25 cents overnight..over $6/pack now  rainbow4321   Mar-19-09 08:54 PM   #8 
  - BOO HOO  Tyler Generation   Mar-19-09 09:20 PM   #14 
  - yes, I think Ill quit smoking and go out and have a  Mari333   Mar-19-09 09:27 PM   #15 
  - No one is making anyone eat bad food either  Tyler Generation   Mar-20-09 07:05 AM   #44 
  - We give billions to the federal government  Robbien   Mar-19-09 09:32 PM   #20 
  - How smart is choosing the smoke?  Tyler Generation   Mar-20-09 07:00 AM   #42 
  - Tyler Generation, do you drink liquor? Are you fat? Are you skinny?  sweetladybug   Mar-20-09 06:23 PM   #68 
  - If you've been told for  christx30   Mar-21-09 05:02 PM   #92 
  - AND giving large sums of money to the GOP  Lorien   Mar-20-09 11:47 PM   #74 
  - told my co-worker complaining , "it's to pay for that Oxygen tank you'll be drag'n around soon"  sam sarrha   Mar-19-09 09:31 PM   #16 
  - I quit ten days ago...  Bennyboy   Mar-19-09 09:32 PM   #19 
  - 22 days here  Abacus   Mar-19-09 10:24 PM   #28 
  - Selfish act...  WriteDown   Mar-20-09 06:31 AM   #39 
  - Please  christx30   Mar-22-09 03:26 AM   #104 
  - My Quit Date is on Sunday...  LanternWaste   Mar-20-09 08:26 AM   #45 
  - Then it is working  Bandit   Mar-20-09 08:30 AM   #46 
  - Meh. Bologna.  Abacus   Mar-20-09 01:36 PM   #59 
  - Same here, not a big deal.  joshcryer   Mar-22-09 06:01 AM   #108 
  - And still not a DOLLAR to help nicotine addicts quit  Vinnie From Indy   Mar-19-09 10:00 PM   #24 
  - You've got that right. The people who are addicted are stuck  Robbien   Mar-19-09 10:07 PM   #27 
  - Millions of people have successfully quit smoking.  totodeinhere   Mar-23-09 10:08 PM   #129 
  - Of course not  primavera   Mar-20-09 11:26 AM   #54 
  - SO QUIT.  harpboy_ak   Mar-19-09 11:32 PM   #31 
  - But, but  Tyler Generation   Mar-20-09 07:03 AM   #43 
  - Here in NYC, low income people buy them from bootleggers  SOS   Mar-20-09 01:12 PM   #58 
  - Not only that  christx30   Mar-22-09 05:46 AM   #107 
  - I Haven't Had a Cigarette For Almost Two Years  NashVegas   Mar-20-09 11:16 AM   #52 
  - Yeah! I shouldn't have to pay health care for anyone who doesn't spend 30 minutes a day exercising,  Abacus   Mar-20-09 01:47 PM   #60 
  - A study out of the Netherlands last year  dflprincess   Mar-20-09 11:41 PM   #73 
  - Hey, war can kill them even younger, so let's have more of those!  Lorien   Mar-20-09 11:51 PM   #75 
     - I was responding to the poster who complained about paying  dflprincess   Mar-20-09 11:55 PM   #77 
  - Agreed. It's insane for anyone to continue smoking, knowing what we  Lorien   Mar-20-09 11:53 PM   #76 
  - $5.80 here in Ohio/Indiana  Corey_Baker08   Mar-20-09 01:05 AM   #34 
  - So smoke half as much.  truthisfreedom   Mar-20-09 03:50 AM   #36 
  - Doesnt really work that way.  Marrah_G   Mar-20-09 08:33 AM   #48 
     - A pack always lasted me 4 days or so.  joshcryer   Mar-22-09 06:05 AM   #110 
  - In New York City is $11  Serenitynow   Mar-20-09 03:55 AM   #37 
  - $7.80/pack (up from $5.25) in DC and $40/carton (up from $27) in VA.  DCKit   Mar-20-09 06:19 AM   #38 
  - I quit because of the cost.  Marrah_G   Mar-20-09 08:31 AM   #47 
  - She's already more likely to have a stroke  DS1   Mar-20-09 11:11 AM   #51 
  - I Wonder Who Will Be the Next Social Outcast For a Sin Tax Levy?  NashVegas   Mar-20-09 11:19 AM   #53 
  - Some stores around here (NJ) are jumping prices by like $1.50/pack  HarukaTheTrophyWife   Mar-20-09 01:03 PM   #57 
  - I hope it doesn't turn out to be like the Whiskey Rebellion.  Neoma   Mar-20-09 03:39 PM   #61 
  - Naw - more likely to echo Prohibition.  enlightenment   Mar-20-09 05:32 PM   #62 
     - I think that'd suck even more.  Neoma   Mar-20-09 10:51 PM   #70 
        - Me too. nt  enlightenment   Mar-20-09 11:26 PM   #72 
  - You can get them cheap online. $15 for a carton of Marlboro.  MrSlayer   Mar-20-09 05:32 PM   #63 
  - I tried purchasing online, but for some reason,  RebelOne   Mar-21-09 01:45 PM   #88 
  - Will smokers band together and file a discrimination lawsuit?  pleah   Mar-20-09 11:25 PM   #71 
  - Quit smoking, no one has my pity for a poisonous addiction  Ferret Mike   Mar-21-09 12:12 AM   #78 
  - Just you because you don't have pity doesn't mean the mean the tax is right.  Sivafae   Mar-21-09 01:07 AM   #80 
  - Take Your Comparison Between Nicotine Addiction And Slavery And Shove It  Paladin   Mar-21-09 09:18 AM   #82 
  - One thing to remember  mr_smith007   Mar-21-09 11:37 AM   #84 
  - I'm Fully Aware Of The Grim Effects Of Cigarette Smoking  Paladin   Mar-21-09 01:37 PM   #87 
  - thank you!  shanti   Mar-21-09 07:22 PM   #95 
  - Fail. I msoke, I'm addicted, it's my own own fault. Slaves, pfft.  anigbrowl   Mar-21-09 10:41 PM   #102 
  - Do you feel that way about all substance addiction?  Vinnie From Indy   Mar-21-09 07:18 AM   #81 
  - Well, tomorrow's my Quit Date, so...  LanternWaste   Mar-21-09 09:28 AM   #83 
  - Good luck with that  daleo   Mar-21-09 04:49 PM   #91 
  - I can't believe people will pay 44 bucks for cigarettes.  JeanGrey   Mar-21-09 04:07 PM   #90 
  - GOOD  shanti   Mar-21-09 07:20 PM   #94 
  - Amen.  CRF450   Mar-22-09 05:00 AM   #105 
  - 100 years ago none of them would have lived past 40.  joshcryer   Mar-22-09 06:06 AM   #111 
     - And People Are Calling ME An Asshole On This Thread....  Paladin   Mar-22-09 10:23 AM   #116 
  - Cigarette smoke is disgusting..I hate the smell of it...  and-justice-for-all   Mar-22-09 05:02 AM   #106 
  - They are 54 a carton here.  glinda   Mar-22-09 10:15 AM   #115 
  - If you can afford to smoke, you can afford the tax.  ohio2007   Mar-22-09 01:06 PM   #117 
  - Here in NY, the black market on cigarettes is thriving  Staneck   Mar-22-09 01:39 PM   #120 
  - This is just stupid.  Zavulon   Mar-22-09 01:44 PM   #121 
  - I quit smoking years ago, but still check the price of cigs in my area...  apnu   Mar-22-09 01:49 PM   #122 
  - I love these threads  The Traveler   Mar-23-09 12:22 AM   #124 
  - Six of one, half a dozen of the other...  LanternWaste   Mar-23-09 10:54 AM   #125 
  - 5.25 for a pack of Marlboro here in Michigan, we are one of the highest Taxed States.  sarcasmo   Mar-23-09 08:26 PM   #126 
  - To the self-righteous, sanctimonious blowhards on this thread  AnOhioan   Mar-23-09 09:17 PM   #127 
  - A pack of Tops tobacco went from $1.99 (last week) to $3.29 (today).  bitchkitty   Mar-23-09 09:59 PM   #128 
  - Sounds like a good reason to quit. Too bad that means less money for the children.  Xenotime   Mar-24-09 08:59 AM   #131 
  - Totally wrong  gollyohgolly   Mar-25-09 04:08 AM   #132 

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