bain_sidhe
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Sun Oct-29-06 06:33 PM
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| 29. That is simply not true |
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And no amount of repetition is going to make it true. Prop. 5 adds funds for school systems in three ways. A direct increase in school funding of $565 million, plus an annual increase for inflation, an indirect increase from the reduction in schools' out-of-pocket costs for teachers' pension-plan funding, and by reducing the gap between the "basic funding allowance" and the "maximum funding allowance."
This goes TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. Whether any of the money makes it into the classroom is up to your local school district. If you have a problem with the way they spend their money, take it up with them.
I should also add, the teachers retirement system is run by the State Office of Retirement Services. Teachers are the only state employees whose pension plans the state currently does NOT fund completely. Local communities don't fund the retirement plans of Judges, State Police, and other state employees (the other retirement plans administered by this office). The reason local schools pay *any* of it is that they have more control over teachers employment (salary, working conditions and healthcare benefits). But the retirement system is a STATE benefit, not a local school district benefit. They didn't put it together, and they don't administer it. It's not the local school districts' retirement plan, it's the STATE'S retirement plan.
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| -How are you voting on the non-partisan part of your ballot? Proposals? |
skipos |
Oct-25-06 10:25 PM |
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Cavanagh and Beckering for Supreme Court - and HELL NO on 2! |
ih8thegop |
Oct-25-06 11:51 PM |
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Me, too. |
SharonRB |
Oct-26-06 07:53 AM |
#2 |
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No. No. No. Yes. Yes. |
TahitiNut |
Oct-26-06 09:37 AM |
#3 |
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Vote NO on All Proposals |
Hidden Stillness |
Oct-26-06 11:47 AM |
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Thanks for the detailed reponse. nt |
skipos |
Oct-26-06 01:30 PM |
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Proposal # 3 is counter intuitive |
russ1943 |
Oct-29-06 12:00 PM |
#24 |
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Thanks! |
SharonRB |
Oct-29-06 06:13 PM |
#28 |
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yea that was great |
herbbrown |
Oct-29-06 12:10 PM |
#25 |
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Leaning Yes, No, No, No, No |
Strawman |
Oct-26-06 12:30 PM |
#5 |
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Why you should vote yes on 4 |
SharonRB |
Oct-26-06 01:11 PM |
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I will read more about it |
Strawman |
Oct-26-06 01:30 PM |
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Read the CRC report, now I'm definitely voting no |
Strawman |
Oct-26-06 02:05 PM |
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The legislative sponsor of Prop 4 is Tony Stamas (R) of Midland |
skipos |
Oct-26-06 02:39 PM |
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It's libertarian, property rights absolutism, that's why |
Strawman |
Oct-26-06 02:49 PM |
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Thanks |
skipos |
Oct-26-06 01:30 PM |
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The Republicans are against 5 |
bif |
Oct-26-06 03:53 PM |
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So is Granholm |
Strawman |
Oct-26-06 04:05 PM |
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We shouldn't vote against things that are correct just because |
joeygirl |
Oct-26-06 05:39 PM |
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Changing to NO on ALL |
Strawman |
Oct-30-06 11:46 AM |
#32 |
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Michigan Municipal League on Eminent Domain/Prop 4 |
Hidden Stillness |
Oct-28-06 12:36 PM |
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Thanks for this. |
SharonRB |
Oct-28-06 01:59 PM |
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I agree. Some proposals sounded good, but I am leaning "no" on all of them now. |
skipos |
Oct-28-06 03:07 PM |
#18 |
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yes, no, no, no, yes |
bain_sidhe |
Oct-28-06 06:50 PM |
#19 |
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No, no ,no, yes,yes |
etherealtruth |
Oct-28-06 08:02 PM |
#20 |
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Yes, No, No, Yes, Yes |
MichDem10 |
Oct-28-06 10:36 PM |
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Voting no on everything |
bif |
Oct-29-06 11:17 AM |
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Beware of Propaganda |
Hidden Stillness |
Oct-29-06 11:49 AM |
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Yes, lets beware of propaganda |
bain_sidhe |
Oct-29-06 02:14 PM |
#26 |
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Prop 5 Does Not Fund School Operations; It is a Retirement Fund |
Hidden Stillness |
Oct-29-06 03:39 PM |
#27 |
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That is simply not true |
bain_sidhe |
Oct-29-06 06:33 PM |
#29 |
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Again, No Reference to the Studies of the Proposal |
Hidden Stillness |
Oct-29-06 09:55 PM |
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I've read the proposal |
bain_sidhe |
Oct-30-06 06:56 PM |
#33 |
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No on all of them |
noonwitch |
Oct-30-06 08:40 AM |
#31 |
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Yes?, no, no, yes, yes. |
maddogesq |
Oct-30-06 09:13 PM |
#34 |
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How I'm voting and a little bit of why |
dewie |
Nov-02-06 11:43 AM |
#35 |