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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 12:49 AM
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4. I got it too.
I'm not so vain as to think I would get my own personalized letter, but I would have thought she, or her staff, could at least have not lied and set up strawmen. The MCA does allow torture up to but not including organ failure or death. That's not the kind of thing that makes me feel warm and cozy. Also, by trying to turn the argument to state that it's my distrust of bush* that makes me not like this bill is deception at its worst. I don't like this bill because any president can use its power, not just bush* (notice I don't say abuse. When a bill is this clear in its intent to allow the president to become a power unto himself it cannot be considered abuse if he uses it).

Anyway, here's my letter back, like it'll do a damn bit of good.

Senator Stabenow,

While I thank you for your response to my original letter, I'm afraid I find your arguments are incredibly lacking. This bill does allow torture just below the threshold of organ failure or death. This is not what we as a country were supposed to stand for. Also, this bill has destroyed the writ of Habeas Corpus, which within one day of being placed into effect is now being used by this administration to silence those who would ask for nothing more than the right to ask why they are being detained.

Senator, you have let loose a monster. I cannot understand your reasoning, nor your lack of insight as to what this bill has done to our country. I can only hope you can understand why you will not be receiving my support, my donations, nor my vote in future.

Unlike you, I wont be voting for stabenow come November. I hope I am never able to look back and have to admit to knowingly supporting cruelty and corruption such as this.
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  -Stabenow's Response Re: Detainee Act Vote barrytonmi  Oct-19-06 05:22 PM   #0 
  - I rec'd the same form letter.  dad   Oct-19-06 08:13 PM   #1 
  - This is the process that was in place.  dad   Oct-19-06 08:37 PM   #2 
  - It's very simple. She lied.  last1standing   Oct-20-06 12:51 AM   #5 
  - Exactly! Her letter (I got one, too) is a pack of lies.  TahitiNut   Oct-20-06 10:53 AM   #8 
  - Lame-O  PassingFair   Oct-19-06 10:24 PM   #3 
  - That's where I am on her, too  SharonRB   Oct-20-06 10:58 AM   #9 
  - I got it too.  last1standing   Oct-20-06 12:49 AM   #4 
  - Not good enough.  MrsGrumpy   Oct-20-06 06:42 AM   #6 
  - No law is better than codifying the repeal of habeus corpus into law  Strawman   Oct-20-06 09:32 AM   #7 
  - I will vote for her this time...  butterfly77   Oct-20-06 12:25 PM   #10 
  - I'm with you all as well  lwfern   Oct-20-06 01:39 PM   #11 
  - Why I will not vote for Debbie Stabenow.  Mich Otter   Oct-26-06 09:14 AM   #12 
  - The secret voting booth is not the place to "rise as a majority of one"  Strawman   Oct-26-06 02:46 PM   #13 
     - I'll stick by my principles,  Mich Otter   Oct-26-06 07:49 PM   #14 
        - You are not alone Mich Otter...  MrsGrumpy   Oct-27-06 02:04 PM   #15 
           - Include me with Otter & Grumpy  CoCre8tor   Oct-29-06 12:46 PM   #16 
              - Never vote for Stabenow  placton   Nov-01-06 12:04 PM   #18 
  - Why I WILL vote for Debbie Stabenow  bain_sidhe   Oct-29-06 02:47 PM   #17 
  - Same letter  direwolf   Nov-02-06 07:47 AM   #19 

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