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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:17 PM
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22. I wasn't going to continue pushing this....
but while I understand your logic and fully support everyone here voting their conscience, I can't vote for stabenow. The question for me is how far does a politician have to go so that voting for them would be tantamount to voting for treason. stabenow has crossed that line.

I'm sure she will vote for more things that I would approve of than Bouchard, and I'm sure she'll caucus for the Dems which, if six other seats switch, will give us a slender majority in the senate. However, by voting for stabenow I would be sending a message that I approve of and support torture. I would be telling the senate that I do not respect the Constitution or the Writ of Habeus Corpus. I honestly wouldn't be able to live with myself if I ever knowingly pulled the lever for someone who gave the okay to rape children, and that is exactly what stabenow has done. There is no hyperbole there.

Also, I think it's important to remember that John Conyers and Charles Rangel are congressmen, not senators. A Dem majority in the senate will not give them any additional leverage in the house.

Anyway, I wish everyone here the best of luck with the upcoming election and I'll be making calls and walking the beat with the rest of you. It just won't be for stabenow.
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  -For those considering not voting for Stabenow.... livvy  Sep-29-06 04:07 PM   #0 
  - I can do this-- thanks livvy.  blue4barb   Sep-29-06 04:48 PM   #1 
  - Thanks, livvy  SharonRB   Sep-29-06 11:45 PM   #2 
  - The Senate will be the Senate  JordanLFW   Sep-30-06 10:08 AM   #3 
  - Stabenow is 8-19 points ahead and has at least five times the money.  TahitiNut   Sep-30-06 12:16 PM   #4 
  - stemming the bleeding, preemptively  JordanLFW   Sep-30-06 11:17 PM   #9 
     - As usual, Jordan, you display wisdom beyond your years  SharonRB   Oct-01-06 09:54 AM   #10 
     - Uh-huh. In other words, why fight possible lies? Why stand on principles?  TahitiNut   Oct-01-06 12:22 PM   #11 
  - That makes sense, and helps me to understand why she voted the...  livvy   Sep-30-06 05:36 PM   #5 
  - Thanks, Jordan  SharonRB   Sep-30-06 07:12 PM   #6 
  - I have been seriously thinking about not voting for her...  butterfly77   Sep-30-06 07:55 PM   #7 
  - Someone should challenge her in the primary in 2012  ih8thegop   Sep-30-06 08:20 PM   #8 
  - I'm sorry livvy...but it's really (for me as a mom) getting much more  MrsGrumpy   Oct-01-06 06:02 PM   #12 
  - I understand MrsGrumpy, and I don't like it either.  livvy   Oct-02-06 06:23 AM   #13 
     - Hi livvy!  MrsGrumpy   Oct-02-06 07:07 AM   #14 
  - Already selling out.  lettre de cachet   Oct-02-06 10:51 AM   #15 
  - Yes. Here's the problem with not voting for her out of protest:  Strawman   Oct-02-06 01:21 PM   #16 
  - It's not about that for me... for me, it's about torture.  MrsGrumpy   Oct-02-06 03:53 PM   #18 
  - I certainly understand and respect your position  Strawman   Oct-02-06 04:49 PM   #21 
  - Very well spoken, strawman  SharonRB   Oct-02-06 04:15 PM   #20 
  - I am voting my conscience  skipos   Oct-02-06 02:34 PM   #17 
  - I agree with you, skipos  SharonRB   Oct-02-06 04:14 PM   #19 
  - I wasn't going to continue pushing this....  last1standing   Oct-02-06 08:17 PM   #22 
  - Yep.  TahitiNut   Oct-03-06 10:24 AM   #23 
  - I want a democratic majority  lwfern   Oct-03-06 09:47 PM   #24 
  - I was disappointed in Bouchard, also, for going negative this week  noonwitch   Oct-04-06 09:19 AM   #25 
 

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