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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:47 AM
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15. I've been reading this thread with some bemusement.
Living in Silicon Valley (Santa Clara County, Calif) for 15 years, I became addicted to the Art & Wine Festivals every weekend during Daylight Savings Time. Every weekend a different town - the main streets closed off and booths along both sides and down the center. Towns competed, but cooperated so their scheduled weekends didn't conflict. A day in the sun and fresh air, noshing on ethnic food, greeting other fruits'n'nuts, and just enjoying the day. The format was almost always pretty much the same with some notable exceptions (e.g. The Gilroy Garlic Festival) - start on Friday at 6pm and wrap up on Sunday at 6pm.

I NEVER had problems with other people banging into me with their strollers. People would bring their kids and dogs - even if the temperature was in the high 80s (normal) - and always kept them safe and under control. The thing is - people in Silicon Valley, for all their human faults and frailties, were very accustomed to being around other people and being considerate. I rarely had to growl at someone halting foot traffic because they blocked others while they cluelessly engaged in navel-gazing, conversation, or head-scratching. It just staggers me to be back in Michigan and deal with such "unsocialized" people absolutely every time I'm in the supermarket or a crowd anywhere. Virtually everyone in Silicon Valley, whether they were Asian, Eastern European, Middle-Eastern, or whatever, knew to shuffle off to the side when they had a cranial CPU crash so they didn't get in the way of other people.

Then again, Silicon Valley (and the bay area) is far more socially liberal - even those who vote Republican, strangely enough. I think people there enjoy people more - or at least aren't afraid of being around large numbers of other people. I can't even count the times I've hear folks in rural or semi-rural conservative areas voice negative feelings about "too many people" - as though there could be could ever be too much of a good thing. I really think that the most fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives is whether they like people. Conservatives really don't. I sometimes think it's just that simple. I like people - I think we're a fascinating species.

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  -It's Art Fair week in Ann Arbor! 1gobluedem  Jul-16-06 03:09 PM   #0 
  - And If You Can't Stand Art Fair, You Have Until Tues. Night To Escape!  Demeter   Jul-16-06 05:09 PM   #1 
  - Oh, I thought about the Celtic Festival  1gobluedem   Jul-17-06 08:06 AM   #3 
  - Good points.  livvy   Jul-17-06 07:20 AM   #2 
  - Have fun, livvy  SharonRB   Jul-17-06 08:07 AM   #4 
  - Great point about the umbrellas  1gobluedem   Jul-17-06 09:35 AM   #5 
  - You know it's Art Fair week because the temps are over 90  noonwitch   Jul-17-06 09:47 AM   #6 
  - If you're planning to attend, please let this townie  Scout   Jul-17-06 06:26 PM   #7 
  - But how do you REALLY feel? :-)  1gobluedem   Jul-18-06 08:25 AM   #8 
  - One more about parking.  jeanarrett   Jul-18-06 02:08 PM   #9 
  - Anyone go yet?  skipos   Jul-19-06 03:45 PM   #10 
  - Wow! Those are really spectacular!  jeanarrett   Jul-20-06 08:16 AM   #12 
  - I like the weddings and quilts  1gobluedem   Jul-20-06 08:18 AM   #14 
  - Not going to make it this year.  livvy   Jul-20-06 08:45 PM   #21 
  - Go? After all those dire warnings?  LisaM   Jul-19-06 07:19 PM   #11 
  - So much better to be stuck there though, rather than say in . . .  jeanarrett   Jul-20-06 08:17 AM   #13 
  - You can also get poked in the ear, or just end up getting the runoff...  livvy   Jul-20-06 08:32 PM   #20 
     - One last note on the near umbrella riot...  livvy   Jul-22-06 10:52 AM   #38 
  - I've been reading this thread with some bemusement.  TahitiNut   Jul-20-06 09:47 AM   #15 
  - Those sound lovely  1gobluedem   Jul-20-06 10:04 AM   #16 
  - The A&W Festivals were all very well attended. Throngs of people.  TahitiNut   Jul-20-06 10:25 AM   #17 
     - I don't think anyone is 'afraid' of crowds who goes to Art Fair  1gobluedem   Jul-20-06 10:35 AM   #18 
  - Far more socially liberal? Than Ann Arbor? C'mon...  Lefty48197   Jul-20-06 11:44 PM   #22 
     - Me too!  1gobluedem   Jul-21-06 07:16 AM   #23 
  - Those huge strollers are an issue  LisaM   Jul-20-06 12:06 PM   #19 
  - Only one more day, right?  livvy   Jul-21-06 07:08 PM   #24 
     - Hey, roomie  SharonRB   Jul-21-06 07:50 PM   #25 
        - Nope. I got a recorded message from Kerry and Granholm, but that's it.  livvy   Jul-21-06 08:01 PM   #26 
           - Did you only get one about the rally, but not the thing at Marie's?  SharonRB   Jul-21-06 08:05 PM   #27 
              - Right, just about the rally. I haven't heard anything about after it.  livvy   Jul-21-06 08:10 PM   #28 
                 - Maybe it's just an Oakland County thing?  SharonRB   Jul-21-06 08:15 PM   #29 
                    - Good questions, and I don't have an answer for any of them!  livvy   Jul-21-06 08:19 PM   #30 
                       - There's a Michigan Dem site  SharonRB   Jul-21-06 08:41 PM   #31 
                          - I found this...which is exactly what you nevermind...duh!  livvy   Jul-21-06 08:57 PM   #32 
                             - LOL -- Google is your friend!  SharonRB   Jul-21-06 09:00 PM   #33 
                                - I just did. Want to plan on going?  livvy   Jul-21-06 09:11 PM   #34 
                                   - Tentatively, absolutely!  SharonRB   Jul-21-06 09:26 PM   #35 
                                      - Ok, now that we have totally hijacked this thread...sounds good!  livvy   Jul-21-06 09:29 PM   #36 
                                         - That we did!  SharonRB   Jul-21-06 09:32 PM   #37 

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