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maddogesq Donating Member (915 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 08:11 PM
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4. Hate to say this, but your comments are without merit.
First of all, we dont care what Old Joe does. Those tactics are expected from Republicans, so why worry about them. If you go through life thinking they will play fair about anything, then you will never succeed at anything. The Neocon/Fourth Reich scare tactics have worn off. The tactic of making the word liberal a four-letter word tactic has been neutralized. Why? Jeebus H., you have a president with a 30 percent approval rating, and you can hang Old Joe for voting with Jr. Shambles almost 100 percent of the time.

Now lets address your comment about state party support:

I do not and granted we are all getting olderever remember getting emails in support of Nancy Skinner early in the last campaign season like the ones Brewer was sending out so early about Peters. I guess they still had ethics then. I also remember that Nancy carried almost all the fundraising load herself, and got little help from the state party until after the primary. The early MDP support Peters seems to be getting is both unprecedented and unethical, and I wrote Brewer the following letter expressing my concerns:

I am writing today to express concern over early endorsements of
candidates by the state party that occur long before primaries are held.

First, a little about myself: I am a very active member of the
Farmington/Farmington Hills Democratic club. I sit on the club's
executive board, and serve as a precinct delegate (Farmington Hills
pct. #6). I have been quite active in the past several elections
cycles, and have often had letters to the editor published in several
local publications.

My complaint is this: Being that there will be a primary involving
several candidates for the U.S. House seat in the 9th Congressional
District. I feel the constant barrage of emails by you in support of
Mr. Peters is unprecedented, unethical, and a violation of
Long-standing party guidelines prior to primary elections.

I have always supported the Democratic candidate for any office who
wins a primary election, regardless of whether I supported that
candidate in that particular primary. I will give 100 percent support
to Mr. Peters if he is the victor in the primary process. However, I
feel the state party should remain neutral during primary campaign
season to be fair to all potential Democratic candidates. I am not
alone as to where I stand on this issue, and worry that if this
continues, things could get quite divisive amongst the party faithful.

Your interest in this matter is greatly appreciated.

OK, I may get in big trouble for posting this, but I think we need to get things out in the open now.

As to your comment about people begging Nancy not to run, I cannot respond with a concise answer, other than the fact that I would say 9 out of 10 people I talk to have not made such statements.

Normally I dont like to get involved in matters that tear in to the fabric of our party, but in this situation, I felt compelled to do so. Your charges of hypocrisy and your distaste for a primary challenge to Peters are without merit. Primaries are a necessary part of the election process for the political system called democracy, as Nancy so poignantly pointed out in her long podcast.

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  -Nancy Skinner announces her candidacy today SharonRB  Oct-16-07 10:16 AM   #0 
  - The 4 1/2 pdcast brought me to tears.  maddogesq   Oct-16-07 05:47 PM   #1 
  - Oh, god, give me a break  bfealk   Oct-18-07 07:54 PM   #6 
  - And look at what Joe did already  bfealk   Oct-17-07 05:12 AM   #2 
  - It's so hypocritical...  bfealk   Oct-17-07 05:17 AM   #3 
  - Hate to say this, but your comments are without merit.  maddogesq   Oct-17-07 08:11 PM   #4 
     - I predict Nancy will drop out after January reporting date  bfealk   Oct-18-07 07:54 PM   #5 
     - How much you wanna bet?  maddogesq   Oct-18-07 08:46 PM   #9 
     - Well MY money and vote will go to Nancy.  PassingFair   Oct-23-07 10:23 PM   #23 
     - And how much money do you think she can raise?  bfealk   Oct-18-07 07:59 PM   #7 
  - I would expect no less from Joe.  maddogesq   Oct-18-07 08:45 PM   #8 
     - She has every right to run  bfealk   Oct-18-07 09:33 PM   #10 
     - Muddy the waters, or has every right to run. You cannot have both.  maddogesq   Oct-18-07 10:13 PM   #12 
        - Sure I can  bfealk   Oct-19-07 04:22 AM   #13 
           - They are just rumors.  maddogesq   Oct-19-07 06:25 AM   #14 
              - Are you sure they're rumors?  bfealk   Oct-19-07 06:53 AM   #15 
              - You're right, maddog  SharonRB   Oct-19-07 12:20 PM   #16 
     - If there's a better candidate out there than Gary  bfealk   Oct-18-07 09:40 PM   #11 
  - I do not think we should discourage people from running.  JNelson6563   Oct-20-07 07:54 AM   #17 
  - I'll give you a concrete example  bfealk   Oct-20-07 06:42 PM   #18 
     - Dr. Dean is doing what is proper and ethical.  maddogesq   Oct-21-07 07:15 PM   #19 
        - My prediction stands...  bfealk   Oct-22-07 07:34 AM   #20 
  - She'll win this one  michreject   Oct-23-07 06:06 PM   #21 
  - She'll withdraw the same way Richardson will  bfealk   Oct-23-07 08:52 PM   #22 
  - Based on what evidence?  bfealk   Oct-27-07 05:03 AM   #25 
  - Interesting discussion  Strawman   Oct-25-07 10:30 AM   #24 
  - Out of curiosity, just how much active support from Peters and others did Nancy get in 2006?  TahitiNut   Oct-27-07 09:42 AM   #26 
     - I personally phone banked for Nancy and Jennifer  bfealk   Oct-27-07 01:50 PM   #27 
     - Nancy got no help from Peters or from the party itself  SharonRB   Oct-28-07 01:32 PM   #28 
     - And phone banking in Rochester ain't enough either.  maddogesq   Oct-28-07 10:22 PM   #29 
     - This is old too  bfealk   Oct-29-07 09:56 AM   #30 
     - Skinner did get money from the party  bfealk   Dec-26-07 04:42 AM   #31 
     - Excellent question.  ray of light   Dec-26-07 07:16 AM   #32 
        - Ok, this stuff really irks me  JNelson6563   Dec-26-07 06:45 PM   #33 
           - I agree Julie  bfealk   Dec-26-07 10:40 PM   #34 
              - I've not heard it so much as you think  JNelson6563   Dec-27-07 06:22 AM   #35 
                 - JNelson,  ray of light   Dec-28-07 07:03 AM   #36 
                    - No offense was intended  JNelson6563   Dec-28-07 09:09 AM   #37 
                    - I wasn't offended. I was just clearing my own 'record' of comments here.  ray of light   Dec-28-07 11:09 AM   #39 
                    - Every time I see one of those smears, I am reminded....  maddogesq   Dec-28-07 09:42 AM   #38 

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