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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 11:45 AM
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12. I've seen too many primaries manipulated by power brokers.
Edited on Fri Nov-11-05 11:47 AM by davsand
I seriously have no idea what's up with Cegalis -v- Duckworth so I don't want either of you thinking I'm taking "sides" here-ok?

Having laid that out, I do want to interject something here about primaries. They are how the party self IDs, IF it is a level playing field. More often than not, however, the power brokers come into it behind the scenes and it just really leaves everyone bitter for a very long time.

Too many times I have been there to see "Big-wig X" (Hell no--I will never name anybody!) put people in the field that practice a scorched earth sort of strategy that just devastates local relationships. They also leave a trail a mile wide that leads right back to whoever sent them in the first place. THAT is no way to make new friends.

I will also say that I have been at meetings where possible candidates are being discussed. Quite frankly, there have been times when people who were GROSSLY unsuited to the job wanted to run. That is a huge waste of party time and resources, and we all realize that. What can be most difficult, are the times when somebody is deemed a "bad candidate" for some reason or another (usually involving some personal slight or social mis-step with a power broker) and they are, in fact, quite viable with the voters.

I've seen it happen, and I have seen races lost in the General because the power brokers backed the wrong person in the primary. As a party, we'd be ahead of the game if we figured out a way in Illinois to fund primaries that are independent of the deal makers and the power brokers. Good luck making THAT happen, however. This IS Illinois.

Luckily, I am outside this district, and I don't have to deal with this particular fight. We have Dr. David Gill to run against Tim Johnson, a GOPiglet if I've ever seen one. Our choice is quite clear and very easy.

Peace to you all.


Laura

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  -Does anybody remember my 10/22 Wes Clark in a skirt comment RE: Il 6th CD? wndycty  Nov-09-05 12:09 PM   #0 
  - Oh fuck! Cegelis is a GREAT candidate.  hedda_foil   Nov-09-05 12:30 PM   #1 
  - kos has it  madrchsod   Nov-09-05 04:47 PM   #2 
  - primaries are fine  mopinko   Nov-10-05 11:09 AM   #3 
     - Is criticism of a weak candidate and a week campaign backstabbing?  wndycty   Nov-10-05 11:46 AM   #4 
     - 44% of the vote, outspent 20 to 1  mopinko   Nov-10-05 11:57 AM   #5 
        - She is having a horrible time raising money. . .  wndycty   Nov-10-05 12:54 PM   #6 
        - are you suggesting that she is lying about her efforts?  mopinko   Nov-10-05 09:22 PM   #9 
        - Hmmmmm. . .here are the sad facts. . .  wndycty   Nov-10-05 10:45 PM   #10 
           - ok, i promise to try to behave, but  mopinko   Nov-11-05 11:18 AM   #11 
           - I've seen too many primaries manipulated by power brokers.  davsand   Nov-11-05 11:45 AM   #12 
           - i think it is human nature. it's not confined to illinois.  mopinko   Nov-11-05 11:53 AM   #13 
           - Simple question is this. . .  wndycty   Nov-11-05 12:54 PM   #14 
              - why the disinformation?  mopinko   Nov-11-05 08:17 PM   #15 
                 - Calling me a backstabber is not name calling?  wndycty   Nov-12-05 08:50 AM   #16 
                    - from the fec report-  mopinko   Nov-12-05 10:45 AM   #17 
                       - Those are some pretty impressive numbers.  kevsand   Nov-12-05 02:53 PM   #19 
                       - fundraising, new materials, new web design,  mopinko   Nov-12-05 07:51 PM   #21 
                          - "she knew from the start that she would have to run twice."  kevsand   Nov-12-05 08:26 PM   #23 
                             - if you knew joe moore  mopinko   Nov-12-05 08:58 PM   #24 
                       - Well since we were talking about cash on hand. . .  wndycty   Nov-12-05 07:18 PM   #20 
                       - no, we were talking about cash raised.  mopinko   Nov-12-05 07:53 PM   #22 
                          - Look at post #10. . .you're looking for an f'ing dispute where the is none  wndycty   Nov-13-05 01:46 PM   #27 
                             - now who's calling names?  mopinko   Nov-14-05 08:02 AM   #30 
                       - Take a look at Emanuel's own FEC report  minvis   Nov-12-05 11:39 PM   #25 
                          - some interesting reading there,  mopinko   Nov-13-05 10:50 AM   #26 
           - Here are even sadder facts.  ieoeja   Dec-01-05 03:03 PM   #31 
        - btw, care to name names of aides who have left?  mopinko   Nov-12-05 10:52 AM   #18 
        - I'm so disappointed in you. . .  wndycty   Nov-10-05 12:56 PM   #7 
        - Exaggeration  billyf65   Nov-10-05 02:18 PM   #8 
     - Just out of curiosity  LookManLook   Nov-13-05 10:49 PM   #28 
        - raising money  mopinko   Nov-14-05 07:44 AM   #29 
 

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