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123. B-R-I-N-G I-T O-N-!-!-!
I would love to see Kerry debate Dean one on one.

Dean would have to be carried off in a stretcher. Not from anything physical mind you. It would just be too much for Dean to take.

It's time to really bring it on.

The voter should demand to see this. If Dean wants to try to get another deferral, well we know why.

He may have a bad back, but I think he has a shady background.
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  -John Kerry challenges Howard Dean to debate on National Security flpoljunkie  Dec-20-03 09:15 AM   #0 
  - Why should Dean  Northwind   Dec-20-03 09:19 AM   #1 
  - Dean knows how to dodge the draft.  Octafish   Dec-20-03 09:27 AM   #4 
  - It would seem to be that that limited knowledge  HFishbine   Dec-20-03 09:29 AM   #6 
  - Dean admitted himself he dodged the draft. Where you been?  Octafish   Dec-20-03 09:35 AM   #13 
     - Do you know the difference between tax dodging and tax avoidance?  IndianaGreen   Dec-20-03 09:47 AM   #27 
     - Heh  Jerseycoa   Dec-20-03 03:23 PM   #102 
     - I suppose Kerry gets FP advice from Conrad Black,  RUMMYisFROSTED   Dec-20-03 09:48 AM   #29 
     - Kerry is also getting financial advice from Conrad Black, no doubt  IndianaGreen   Dec-20-03 10:16 AM   #48 
     - POOP.  Scott Lee   Dec-20-03 04:20 PM   #110 
     - Wipe your mouth while your at it  La_Serpiente   Dec-20-03 10:28 PM   #142 
        - Oh chill, Will. You still have your book.  Scott Lee   Dec-20-03 10:38 PM   #145 
     - Dean and FDR both dodged the draft (disabled athletes stuff)  mouse7   Dec-21-03 12:14 AM   #158 
  - Dean didn't dodge the draft, that's a GOP smear  IndianaGreen   Dec-20-03 09:37 AM   #16 
  - GASP! You mean Kerry and CLark folks are using GOP smears against Dean?  TLM   Dec-20-03 06:25 PM   #129 
     - GOP smears! bleghgh!  foktarded   Dec-20-03 10:21 PM   #141 
        - Really...when did bush last call a democrat Bush lite  TLM   Dec-21-03 04:51 AM   #161 
  - Wheras Kerry learned nothing from War  virtualobserver   Dec-20-03 09:40 AM   #18 
  - Got a link to Kerry's statement(s) after SH was captured?  RUMMYisFROSTED   Dec-20-03 09:50 AM   #31 
     - I don't....someone else posted an interview transcript earlier this week  virtualobserver   Dec-20-03 10:06 AM   #43 
     - Why don't you use DU's search function yourself?  IndianaGreen   Dec-20-03 10:08 AM   #44 
        - Like this?  RUMMYisFROSTED   Dec-20-03 10:18 AM   #51 
           - That's a WSWS article  IndianaGreen   Dec-20-03 10:20 AM   #54 
  - POOP.  Scott Lee   Dec-20-03 04:20 PM   #109 
  - May I remind you that Dean received 1Y deferment  HawkeyeX   Dec-20-03 06:29 PM   #131 
  - Another Dean apologist with well-memorized lies  zulchzulu   Dec-21-03 08:52 AM   #169 
     - And how is Kerry trying to defend his IWR vote?  HawkeyeX   Dec-21-03 10:27 AM   #172 
  - Yeah, whatever.  RetroLounge   Dec-20-03 10:46 PM   #150 
  - I say Dean should  jeter   Dec-21-03 12:44 AM   #160 
  - A one-on-one debate with Dean  Demobrat   Dec-20-03 09:32 AM   #9 
  - Kerry is in single digits  IndianaGreen   Dec-20-03 10:28 AM   #58 
     - I disagree.  Demobrat   Dec-20-03 10:30 AM   #62 
     - Fer sure!  IndianaGreen   Dec-20-03 10:40 AM   #65 
     - Yepsen,Des Moines Register,on CNN race in Iowa "bunched up"...  flpoljunkie   Dec-20-03 10:54 AM   #72 
     - There is no pressure for Dean in Iowa to  party_line   Dec-20-03 06:47 PM   #136 
     - Yepsen sux  Ficus   Dec-23-03 01:25 AM   #183 
     - Yepsen says "Gov. Dean's people are worried". No hint of worry here at DU.  oasis   Dec-20-03 10:45 PM   #149 
     - Hillary Clinton reminded us recently that Bill was at 4% this time in 1991  flpoljunkie   Dec-21-03 08:55 AM   #170 
  - remember that reasoning when bush is too busy to bother with debates  bearfartinthewoods   Dec-20-03 09:53 AM   #34 
  - Apples, meet Oranges.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Dec-20-03 11:16 AM   #77 
     - oh....the groundbreaking new wave dean is now going to fall back  bearfartinthewoods   Dec-20-03 06:47 PM   #135 
  - Isn't it about time we has a REAL DEBATE?  WiseMen   Dec-23-03 04:17 AM   #185 
  - Geez - talk about flip flops  HFishbine   Dec-20-03 09:22 AM   #2 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-20-03 09:31 AM   #8 
  - What's the matter, Senator Kerry?  Clark   Dec-20-03 09:32 AM   #11 
  - No. The DEMs are.  Octafish   Dec-20-03 09:36 AM   #14 
  - You believe that.  Clark   Dec-20-03 09:43 AM   # 
  - Well, they could charge admission - sell it to the media  molly   Dec-20-03 09:36 AM   #15 
  - you mean  drfemoe   Dec-20-03 10:42 PM   #147 
  - it's not a matter of being desperate  paulk   Dec-20-03 09:39 AM   #17 
     - I agree. But why not include everyone?  Demobrat   Dec-20-03 09:42 AM   #19 
        - I'm speculating he does, but Kerry wants  molly   Dec-20-03 09:45 AM   #24 
           - Then he should drop out  AWD   Dec-20-03 09:47 AM   #28 
           - Oh, I get it! It'a joke!  paulk   Dec-20-03 09:55 AM   #36 
           - Kerry's statement doesn't necessarily preclude other Dems.  paulk   Dec-20-03 09:52 AM   #33 
           - You mean the lightweight  Demobrat   Dec-20-03 10:28 AM   #59 
  - Dean had the courage to stand up against Bush  virtualobserver   Dec-20-03 09:43 AM   #21 
     - I realize this is the standard talking point  paulk   Dec-20-03 10:00 AM   #39 
        - common sense is far more important than "experience",  virtualobserver   Dec-20-03 10:02 AM   #40 
           - can't argue with that  paulk   Dec-20-03 10:09 AM   #45 
              - Kerry did it before  Pavlovs DiOgie   Dec-20-03 10:34 AM   #64 
              - Oh, yeah - the IWR vote  paulk   Dec-20-03 11:19 AM   #78 
                 - Oh, so in this case  Pavlovs DiOgie   Dec-20-03 11:39 AM   #88 
                    - Kerry's vote for the IWR was not an automatic vote for war  paulk   Dec-20-03 12:00 PM   #96 
                       - Oh it was indeed!  Scott Lee   Dec-20-03 04:23 PM   #111 
                          - So that would include Dean then...  zulchzulu   Dec-23-03 01:12 AM   #180 
              - experience has apparently taught Kerry nothing  virtualobserver   Dec-20-03 11:33 AM   #84 
                 - the campaign is not over  paulk   Dec-20-03 12:11 PM   #97 
                    - His Vietnam experience should have enabled him to see through the lies  virtualobserver   Dec-20-03 04:16 PM   #108 
  - Dean would be seeing waffles if he debated Kerry  zulchzulu   Dec-20-03 06:18 PM   #126 
  - Good for you, Senator!  MaineDem   Dec-20-03 09:26 AM   #3 
  - Dean would never accept, he knows the outcome  quinnox   Dec-20-03 09:28 AM   #5 
  - A hero like this?  RUMMYisFROSTED   Dec-20-03 09:55 AM   #35 
  - How silly.  Clark   Dec-20-03 09:30 AM   #7 
  - do you dislike Kerry because of his "sense of entitlement"  paulk   Dec-20-03 09:43 AM   #20 
     - I don't dislike Senator Kerry.  Clark   Dec-20-03 09:45 AM   #23 
     - How so?  molly   Dec-20-03 09:47 AM   #26 
     - See original post.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Dec-20-03 09:56 AM   #37 
     - If you saw a deabate between Dean and Kerry  paulk   Dec-20-03 10:03 AM   #41 
        - Dunno  Clark   Dec-20-03 10:13 AM   #46 
     - What positions?  Demobrat   Dec-20-03 10:50 AM   #70 
        - Kerry has a long record of liberal, progressive voting  paulk   Dec-20-03 11:30 AM   #82 
  - That's great! This is the 2nd time he has challenged  molly   Dec-20-03 09:32 AM   #10 
  - A dem v dem one on one debate would not be fair to the other dems  TLM   Dec-20-03 04:46 PM   #115 
  - Kerry would level anyone in the current field of Democrats. Foreign or  oasis   Dec-20-03 10:54 PM   #153 
  - NOT.  mouse7   Dec-21-03 05:19 AM   #164 
  - Why should Dean accept?  Andromeda   Dec-21-03 05:30 AM   #165 
  - I think before Dean accepts the debate  darboy   Dec-20-03 09:33 AM   #12 
  - Polling nationally at 6% ...dead last.  sfecap   Dec-20-03 09:44 AM   #22 
  - Sharpton is polling higher than Kerry  IndianaGreen   Dec-20-03 09:51 AM   #32 
  - That's twice now....  AWD   Dec-20-03 09:46 AM   #25 
  - Dean doesn't want to face questions like - You might be Howard Dean if  quinnox   Dec-20-03 09:49 AM   #30 
  - Ignorance must be bliss!  RUMMYisFROSTED   Dec-20-03 10:13 AM   #47 
  - LOL RiF, I'm right behind you!  Amerikav60   Dec-20-03 10:19 AM   #53 
     - It's like  RUMMYisFROSTED   Dec-20-03 10:58 AM   #73 
  - Hmmm, this is fun:  Amerikav60   Dec-20-03 10:18 AM   #50 
  - Once again, having little faith in the democratic agenda,  HFishbine   Dec-20-03 09:57 AM   #38 
  - And Kerry wants the media to drop all the other candidates  IndianaGreen   Dec-20-03 10:05 AM   #42 
  - How is Dean not a punk if he dodges this?  WilliamPitt   Dec-20-03 10:16 AM   #49 
  - Kerry wants all the other candidates to be kept out of a debate  IndianaGreen   Dec-20-03 10:22 AM   #55 
  - Well, several candidates have made the point  WilliamPitt   Dec-20-03 10:23 AM   #56 
     - I believe the DNC  cheryl27   Dec-20-03 10:28 AM   #60 
     - We should let the League of Women Voters run the debates  IndianaGreen   Dec-20-03 10:49 AM   #69 
     - That's one I'd love to see  Jerseycoa   Dec-20-03 10:48 AM   #68 
     - So you would support Kerry's arrogant call to get a special debate...  TLM   Dec-20-03 04:54 PM   #116 
     - What crap, and you know it.  RetroLounge   Dec-20-03 10:56 PM   #154 
     - I would like to see  Jerseycoa   Dec-20-03 11:14 PM   #157 
  - Why isn't Kerry a punk for even suggesting it?  RUMMYisFROSTED   Dec-20-03 10:26 AM   #57 
  - I see this as Kerry making the right move  WilliamPitt   Dec-20-03 10:30 AM   #61 
     - I understand the motivation.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Dec-20-03 10:45 AM   #67 
     - The smart counter move by Dean would be to say  TLM   Dec-20-03 05:01 PM   #118 
        - That's pretty much what he said to Kerry the LAST time he  RUMMYisFROSTED   Dec-21-03 10:39 AM   #174 
     - Why doesn't Dean debate Lyndon LaRouche as well?  TacoUnderpants   Dec-20-03 11:04 AM   #74 
     - The right move?  frustrated_lefty   Dec-20-03 11:05 AM   #75 
     - Except that Kerry is nowhere near the front of the pack  IndianaGreen   Dec-20-03 11:05 AM   #76 
     - I see this as one of the few good moves Kerry has open to him  quaker bill   Dec-20-03 11:49 AM   #93 
     - I'm surprised Kerry supporters can see anything other than Kerry's butt  TLM   Dec-20-03 04:57 PM   #117 
  - How was I not a punk  Demobrat   Dec-20-03 10:41 AM   #66 
  - changing america... one punk at a time  babzilla   Dec-20-03 03:53 PM   #105 
  - Because it's laughable?  LizW   Dec-20-03 10:52 AM   #71 
  - Because John Kerry isn't all that special  quaker bill   Dec-20-03 11:44 AM   #90 
  - Does a boxer take every comer?  party_line   Dec-20-03 06:54 PM   #137 
  - William, are you a punk for breaking DU rules already?  mouse7   Dec-20-03 09:08 PM   #139 
  - I would expect Kerry  Jerseycoa   Dec-20-03 10:18 AM   #52 
  - At least  cheryl27   Dec-20-03 10:31 AM   #63 
     - Yeah because debating Kerry on Iraq would be pretty much the same thing  TLM   Dec-20-03 05:04 PM   #119 
  - If Dean wins the nomination,  GloriaSmith   Dec-20-03 11:21 AM   #79 
  - Dean won't do it, but this is good for Clark.  Bleachers7   Dec-20-03 11:23 AM   #80 
  - The unmittigated arrogance  dsc   Dec-20-03 11:27 AM   #81 
  - This isn't a new tactic  Bleachers7   Dec-20-03 11:33 AM   #83 
  - well duh  dsc   Dec-20-03 11:45 AM   #91 
  - the arrogance here is coming from Dean supporters  paulk   Dec-20-03 11:37 AM   #86 
  - I am not writing Kerry off  dsc   Dec-20-03 11:47 AM   #92 
  - Kerry's running for himself - and Dean's the frontrunner  paulk   Dec-20-03 12:18 PM   #100 
     - He can if he doesn't want to be an arrogant prick  dsc   Dec-20-03 12:35 PM   #101 
  - The arrogance is Kerry's  IndianaGreen   Dec-20-03 12:14 PM   #98 
     - Sounds like you're a Dean cowardice apologist to me  zulchzulu   Dec-20-03 06:31 PM   #132 
        - The only cowardice was Kerry's when he voted for PATRIOT and IWR  IndianaGreen   Dec-20-03 10:51 PM   #152 
  - but, but, it would be good for our country and our party  babzilla   Dec-20-03 11:44 AM   #89 
     - Kerry should have thought of the "good of the country"  IndianaGreen   Dec-20-03 12:16 PM   #99 
        - agreed  babzilla   Dec-20-03 03:45 PM   #104 
  - The PARTY should be insisting on SUBSTANTIVE 1-on-1 Debates  WiseMen   Dec-20-03 11:35 AM   #85 
  - that I agree with  dsc   Dec-20-03 11:57 AM   #94 
  - In other words... Kerry is not getting enough spotlight time  TLM   Dec-20-03 05:07 PM   #120 
  - Isn't that special.  quaker bill   Dec-20-03 11:39 AM   #87 
  - Bush doesn't know shit about national security...  killbotfactory   Dec-20-03 11:57 AM   #95 
  - Which John Kerry?  mzmolly   Dec-20-03 03:33 PM   #103 
  - Now this is pretty pathetic  KaraokeKarlton   Dec-20-03 03:59 PM   #106 
  - IOWA is a 3-Man Contest. NH is a 2-Man contest. Did 9-Man Debate Help You  WiseMen   Dec-20-03 04:16 PM   #107 
  - Maybe if Kerry used the existing debate time to debate issues  TLM   Dec-20-03 04:37 PM   #113 
  - Sounds like somebody is scared  zulchzulu   Dec-20-03 06:15 PM   #124 
     - Yeah... Kerry.  TLM   Dec-20-03 06:22 PM   #128 
        - Kerry challenged Dean and Dean has a bad back or is it no spine?  zulchzulu   Dec-23-03 01:10 AM   #179 
  - So Kerry is back to attacking the UN to attack Dean...  TLM   Dec-20-03 04:34 PM   #112 
  - This sick ass UN attack is not going away. Shame on you, John.  Scott Lee   Dec-20-03 10:41 PM   #146 
  - How will the press respond to this? eom  mikehiggins   Dec-20-03 04:38 PM   #114 
  - Kerry should have challenged him  pasadenaboy   Dec-20-03 05:47 PM   #121 
  - Never too late to prove Howard is not the one to run  zulchzulu   Dec-20-03 06:28 PM   #130 
  - Kerry shot his wad on national security when he voted for IWR  IndianaGreen   Dec-20-03 11:00 PM   #156 
  - No .. actually  drfemoe   Dec-20-03 10:36 PM   #144 
  - net ball  babzilla   Dec-20-03 05:57 PM   #122 
  - B-R-I-N-G I-T O-N-!-!-!  zulchzulu   Dec-20-03 06:14 PM   #123 
  - He'd have to be carried off on a stretcher because he'd fall asleep  mzmolly   Dec-20-03 06:17 PM   #125 
     - Dean knows jacksquat about national security  zulchzulu   Dec-20-03 06:21 PM   #127 
        - try this  babzilla   Dec-20-03 10:02 PM   #140 
        - Is O'Kerry still full of shit?  mzmolly   Dec-20-03 10:32 PM   #143 
        - And Kerry's expertise about national security comes from....?  Scott Lee   Dec-20-03 10:44 PM   #148 
           - If I told you, you'd curl up into fetal position  zulchzulu   Dec-21-03 08:48 AM   #167 
  - dean's response should be quite interesting  retyred   Dec-20-03 06:43 PM   #133 
  - has Dean responded yet? n/t  maddezmom   Dec-20-03 06:46 PM   #134 
     - Dean Will Only Agree if the DNC puts pressure on him to Debate  WiseMen   Dec-20-03 09:00 PM   #138 
        - Why would Dean agree?  stickdog   Dec-23-03 06:07 AM   #187 
  - how in the hell is this challenge arrogant?  foktarded   Dec-20-03 10:48 PM   #151 
  - Kerry is polling realy badly...  TLM   Dec-21-03 04:56 AM   #162 
     - Kerry running close second in Iowa and second in New Hampshire  zulchzulu   Dec-23-03 01:13 AM   #181 
  - so Kerry is an even bigger asshole than I thought  Cheswick   Dec-20-03 10:58 PM   #155 
  - Dean is a much bigger weenie than I thought  zulchzulu   Dec-21-03 08:50 AM   #168 
  - I'd pay per view this one  arewethereyet   Dec-21-03 12:25 AM   #159 
  - It won;t happen because it is a lose lose ploy by Kerry...  TLM   Dec-21-03 05:04 AM   #163 
  - the first step is acceptance...  arewethereyet   Dec-21-03 10:49 AM   #175 
  - Great idea! A pay-per-view DNC fundraiser for people powered convention  flpoljunkie   Dec-21-03 08:43 AM   #166 
     - nice touch !  arewethereyet   Dec-21-03 11:13 AM   #176 
  - Sad that we are being railroaded into nomination without Real Debate  Raya   Dec-21-03 10:21 AM   #171 
  - This is the second lame attempt by Kerry  Nazgul35   Dec-21-03 10:32 AM   #173 
  - Campaign of ideas or meaningless poll numbers?  zulchzulu   Dec-21-03 12:08 PM   #177 
  - If Dean accepts the challenge, I will be first to give him credit.  WiseMen   Dec-23-03 01:01 AM   #178 
  - Kerry DEMANDS SATISFACTION  sujan   Dec-23-03 01:22 AM   #182 
  - In other news, Kerry ignores Garth's request for a nine-part series of  stickdog   Dec-23-03 03:03 AM   #184 
  - Kerry supporters, how did Hussein's capture make Americans safer?  stickdog   Dec-23-03 06:02 AM   #186 
 

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