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Mon Nov-09-09 03:23 PM
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| I'm more ashamed of the Democratic party compromising on women's rights |
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for the sake of a poorly drafted bill.  |
| -BREAKING: Democratic Party is now Anti-Women and run by the Pope!!! :sarcasm: |
Aramchek |
Nov-09-09 02:49 PM |
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Nov-09-09 02:49 PM |
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because the anti-choice compromise was so progressive and "pro-woman?" |
villager |
Nov-09-09 02:49 PM |
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there are currently no subsidies for abortion, there will be none in the bill |
Aramchek |
Nov-09-09 02:54 PM |
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horseshit! It prohibits insurance companies from offering coverate they *already* offer! |
villager |
Nov-09-09 02:56 PM |
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do you have text from the amendment supporting that? |
Aramchek |
Nov-09-09 02:59 PM |
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Since you can't be bothered yourself: |
villager |
Nov-09-09 03:02 PM |
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this is not text from the Amendment, it is a distorted description of it. |
Aramchek |
Nov-09-09 03:08 PM |
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Ah, Aramcheck prounounces Planned Parenthood a "distortion" |
villager |
Nov-09-09 03:12 PM |
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can you provide real evidence for this from the text of the amendment? |
Aramchek |
Nov-09-09 03:16 PM |
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Nov-09-09 03:18 PM |
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so you cannot provide evidence, but you still believe it. amazing! |
Aramchek |
Nov-09-09 03:24 PM |
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Whereas I provide links to sources, you provide none! Amazing! |
villager |
Nov-09-09 04:04 PM |
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I provided a link to to Amendment text in the OP, and a cut n paste of the text further down. |
Aramchek |
Nov-09-09 04:09 PM |
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How is it going to be any different than things stand now? |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-09-09 03:03 PM |
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You're also free to "bother," and read the Planned Parenthood release |
villager |
Nov-09-09 03:05 PM |
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That's not answering my question. The press release is full of overheated rhetoric. nt |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-09-09 03:12 PM |
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And ClarkUSA calls Planned Parenthood and NARAL "overheated!" |
villager |
Nov-09-09 03:14 PM |
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You're being dishonest and trying to distract from my salient points which debunk your rhetoric. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-09-09 03:21 PM |
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"Facts don't matter" The new rallying cry of HCR opposition |
Aramchek |
Nov-09-09 03:26 PM |
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A few can discuss issues maturely without rancor or vitriol; most resort to vitriolic obfuscation. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-09-09 03:36 PM |
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I'm waitng to see if you're one of them.... |
villager |
Nov-09-09 03:44 PM |
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I have been. You've been dishonest in your statements and refuse to offer facts from the Amendment. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-09-09 04:01 PM |
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Nor can you offer "facts" from the amendment rebutting the analyses |
villager |
Nov-09-09 04:03 PM |
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You really cannot answer my original question, can you? Because there is no difference. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-09-09 04:07 PM |
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Okay -- for going round and round and *offering nothing of substance* |
villager |
Nov-09-09 04:07 PM |
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you are proven wrong, and you choose to ignore it. that doesn't speak highly of you. |
Aramchek |
Nov-09-09 04:11 PM |
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as you already know: |
villager |
Nov-09-09 04:14 PM |
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but for some odd reason, you cannot point to the text of the Amendment that states this |
Aramchek |
Nov-09-09 04:18 PM |
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Nov-09-09 04:12 PM |
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that's one of our biggest problems. Age says nothing about how 'Adult' you are. |
Aramchek |
Nov-09-09 04:34 PM |
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It's an eternal human problem but here the bitter Failers usually fall in that category. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-09-09 04:48 PM |
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You offer only strawman arguments and false assertions instead of the facts we've asked for. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-09-09 04:43 PM |
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But under this bill, IF they want to buy that separate policy, they will be penalized in |
T Wolf |
Nov-09-09 03:08 PM |
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got text? or did someone else tell you this? |
Aramchek |
Nov-09-09 03:18 PM |
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Got text proving all these "hysterical women's" groups wrong? |
villager |
Nov-09-09 03:19 PM |
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Why are you putting quotes around a comment that was never said by anyone on this thread except you? |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-09-09 03:26 PM |
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Let's just say I trust NARAL and Planned Parenthood and women in general far far more |
villager |
Nov-09-09 03:43 PM |
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or even your own eyes, eh? |
Aramchek |
Nov-09-09 03:44 PM |
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One more time before the ignore list: Offer language that rebuts the analsyses |
villager |
Nov-09-09 04:04 PM |
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The "analyses" you mention does not provide a shred of data to back up its rhetoric. nt |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-09-09 04:09 PM |
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I gave a direct quote from the Amendment, that wasn't good enough for this person |
Aramchek |
Nov-09-09 04:30 PM |
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You never answer questions, do you? Gee, I wonder why. nt |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-09-09 03:50 PM |
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No, you don't. Nary a link, Gee, I wonder why. |
villager |
Nov-09-09 04:05 PM |
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Your "analyses" is a series of statements without a shred of data to back them up. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-09-09 04:15 PM |
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I provided a link to the full text of the amendment in my OP |
Aramchek |
Nov-09-09 03:43 PM |
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well, you skillfully excerpted, sure |
villager |
Nov-09-09 04:06 PM |
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holy crap, your head is rock hard. I didn't 'excerpt skilfully'. I provided the exact text. |
Aramchek |
Nov-09-09 04:15 PM |
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It's a five page amendment. Sheesh. |
villager |
Nov-09-09 04:17 PM |
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yes, 5 whole pages. Is that just too much for you to read? |
Aramchek |
Nov-09-09 04:22 PM |
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And you didn't reproduce the section that comes before this! |
villager |
Nov-09-09 04:19 PM |
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section (a) restricts the use of federal subsidies for abortion coverage, |
Aramchek |
Nov-09-09 04:25 PM |
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Again, how is that qualitatively different from what happens now? |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-09-09 03:19 PM |
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Point is it will become unavailable becasue the insurance corps will not offer it in order |
T Wolf |
Nov-09-09 03:26 PM |
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Do you have any data to back up your statements? I'd be interested in seeing it. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-09-09 03:32 PM |
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exactly so, T Wolf.... |
villager |
Nov-09-09 04:07 PM |
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Facts? .. |
Cha |
Nov-09-09 04:21 PM |
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Yeah, it's always the bitter Failers that are the most dishonest. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-09-09 04:26 PM |
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Yeah, a lot of people I respect |
Cha |
Nov-09-09 04:44 PM |
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Um... |
jefferson_dem |
Nov-09-09 02:52 PM |
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you have seen the barrage of posts around here lately, haven't you? |
Aramchek |
Nov-09-09 02:53 PM |
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I've seen bunches... |
jefferson_dem |
Nov-09-09 02:55 PM |
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I just can't believe all the dishonesty in pursuit of their aims. |
Aramchek |
Nov-09-09 03:03 PM |
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and yet, your dishonesty nearly trumps them all... |
villager |
Nov-09-09 03:19 PM |
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Is Baghdad Bob a hero of yours? nt |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-09-09 04:22 PM |
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I have provided proof for everything I say. You have provided nothing but vitriol. |
Aramchek |
Nov-09-09 04:36 PM |
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At least you're a man. |
Beacool |
Nov-09-09 02:54 PM |
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wow. are you not ashamed at this attempt to turn women against HCR? |
Aramchek |
Nov-09-09 02:57 PM |
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I'm ashamed of a backdoor slap down the back alley |
texastoast |
Nov-09-09 03:06 PM |
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read the amendment before you believe the conclusions some have jumped to |
Aramchek |
Nov-09-09 03:19 PM |
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I'm more ashamed of the Democratic party compromising on women's rights |
Beacool |
Nov-09-09 03:23 PM |
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Funny... Debbie Wasserman-Schultz isn't "ashamed" she helped move the bill forward by voting "Aye". |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-09-09 03:44 PM |
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How sexist of you. nt |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-09-09 03:06 PM |
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Shoo......... |
Beacool |
Nov-09-09 03:20 PM |
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i'm not even going near this aspect of the bill... |
dionysus |
Nov-09-09 03:30 PM |
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A banky for me? |
Beacool |
Nov-09-09 03:46 PM |
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Yes, the truth about your hypocrisy is inconvenient. Chris Matthews has company! nt |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-09-09 03:49 PM |
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Sorry, saw the sarc tag late |
stevenleser |
Nov-09-09 03:01 PM |
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Half this site hates Obama, hates every Democrat not named |
geek tragedy |
Nov-09-09 03:02 PM |
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LOL |
Forkboy |
Nov-09-09 03:16 PM |
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according to my rec thread from yesterday, they represent about 25% of DU |
Aramchek |
Nov-09-09 03:20 PM |
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hoo boy |
Starry Messenger |
Nov-09-09 04:16 PM |
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So throwing women under the bus is OK with you? |
Odin2005 |
Nov-09-09 03:03 PM |
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that is not what happened. if you read the amendment yourself, you would see that. |
Aramchek |
Nov-09-09 03:22 PM |
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Nobody's being thrown under any bus. |
jefferson_dem |
Nov-09-09 03:23 PM |
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Most of the Dems are actually very pro-woman. How do people fail to realize |
Jennicut |
Nov-09-09 03:15 PM |
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Rosa did the right thing. |
Aramchek |
Nov-09-09 03:23 PM |
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