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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 02:07 PM
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9. K&R
The whole debate is a logical fallacy. There is no point in the amendment to preserve the status quo because the reform bill did not amend it and in fact had strong language to back it up. The only purpose is to create new law and a new school of thought dictating that the government ever handling the money or having money in use for a totally separate purpose at the same location should be seen in the same light as government funding as we have traditionally known it aka giving funds to someone or some entity that will be spent on the services in question. This is new ground and ignoring it as such is dangerous thinking not only now but going forward even on totally unrelated legislation. We can't allow the erosion of rights snuck into need bills just to get them passed.
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  -An illustrative thought experiment regarding Hyde and/or Stupak... Kurt_and_Hunter  Nov-09-09 01:48 PM   #0 
  - Well written and reasoned. nt  Phoebe Loosinhouse   Nov-09-09 01:51 PM   #1 
  - thank you  niyad   Nov-09-09 01:55 PM   #2 
  - And thank you for the positive feedback  Kurt_and_Hunter   Nov-09-09 07:59 PM   #18 
  - I am happy you think that the Public Option is eventually going to lead further toward single payer  emulatorloo   Nov-09-09 01:58 PM   #3 
  - The senate is not usually where bills go to become more liberal  Kurt_and_Hunter   Nov-09-09 02:02 PM   #5 
  - The Senate may pride itself on being "intellectually superior" to the House  emulatorloo   Nov-09-09 02:05 PM   #8 
  - I don't know about the efficacy of the public option but *something* will lead to single-payer  Kurt_and_Hunter   Nov-09-09 02:44 PM   #13 
  - K&R  me b zola   Nov-09-09 02:02 PM   #4 
  - Beyond excellent. OP...  Hepburn   Nov-09-09 02:05 PM   #6 
  - ...  Kurt_and_Hunter   Nov-09-09 06:11 PM   #16 
  - Excellent analysis. I hope someone in a position to influence Congress uses it.  BrklynLiberal   Nov-09-09 02:05 PM   #7 
  - K&R  TheKentuckian   Nov-09-09 02:07 PM   #9 
  - enjoy your Wedge issue. you will not stop Healthcare Reform.  Aramchek   Nov-09-09 02:15 PM   #10 
  - Enjoy you life on my ignore list. Your lies and general hatefulness have lost all comedic value  Kurt_and_Hunter   Nov-09-09 02:17 PM   #11 
     - some people can't accept facts. they prefer hopped-up reactionary flailing.  Aramchek   Nov-09-09 02:22 PM   #12 
  - Well said. I think you settled it for me.  izzybeans   Nov-09-09 02:55 PM   #14 
  - thanks. Nice to know  Kurt_and_Hunter   Nov-09-09 04:04 PM   #15 
  - It Is Beyond Odious And We Must Not Let Up Intil It Is Stripped  Beetwasher   Nov-09-09 06:26 PM   #17 

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