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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 05:21 PM
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13. Actually it's not really the case. People without money never had insurance anyway.
So they always paid out of pocket. We should be clamouring at the doors of Hyde and repeal that if we're going to use the poverty argument.


Medicaid does offer it and this is maintained in the Stupad, that if you are a victim of rape or incest, or in the case of mother's health you will still be covered. Medicaid abolishedthe provision of funding abortions for thoe without "means" during the 70s. So that's not the strongest argument to make.

However, I won't strike down this bill over this amendment. Sorry---I may be selfish but there are people in the millions who share my case and I'm female. I fuckin' hate this amendment..but proper health care is screaming louder from my side.
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  -What Is Abortion About In This Bill Leo The Cleo  Nov-09-09 12:53 PM   #0 
  - The purists are working with the GOP to stop this at all costs  Gman   Nov-09-09 12:56 PM   #1 
  - So now those who stand up for women's rights are the "purists?"  depakid   Nov-09-09 01:31 PM   #6 
  - so screwing over women does not make this legislation unacceptable?  niyad   Nov-09-09 02:29 PM   #8 
  - I'm with you on this issue.  liquid diamond   Nov-10-09 01:54 AM   #27 
  - Listen. Even a woman WITHOUT "means" can get an  Fire1   Nov-09-09 01:06 PM   #2 
  - Why can't you see it any other way?  Vattel   Nov-09-09 01:07 PM   #3 
  - Being the Pollyanna that I am  FLyellowdog   Nov-09-09 01:08 PM   #4 
  - Or wealthy progressives could just fund ALL healthcare and we can drop the bill altogether  Kurt_and_Hunter   Nov-09-09 03:34 PM   #10 
     - I think my point is, if I had one, is that  FLyellowdog   Nov-09-09 05:14 PM   #12 
  - Well, it would be a fairly limited group.  lapfog_1   Nov-09-09 01:21 PM   #5 
  - Population controll for poor people  Leo The Cleo   Nov-09-09 02:04 PM   #7 
     - Two points.  lapfog_1   Nov-09-09 03:28 PM   #9 
        - But Once Again . . .  Leo The Cleo   Nov-09-09 04:02 PM   #11 
           - Of course, abortion is, in fact, legal.  lapfog_1   Nov-09-09 09:29 PM   #14 
  - Actually it's not really the case. People without money never had insurance anyway.  vaberella   Nov-09-09 05:21 PM   #13 
  - +1. This is the correct tactic  demwing   Nov-09-09 09:38 PM   #16 
  - The mother's health is not included...just her life...there's a difference.  Lars39   Nov-09-09 09:48 PM   #19 
     - Here's the text from Hyde  demwing   Nov-09-09 10:03 PM   #21 
  - I'm okay with not allowing subsidies to purchase abortion coverage  DrToast   Nov-09-09 09:34 PM   #15 
  - It doesn't do that  demwing   Nov-09-09 09:40 PM   #17 
     - So where does this go beyond Hyde? I keep reading that it does.  DrToast   Nov-09-09 09:43 PM   #18 
        - I started out asking the same question  demwing   Nov-09-09 09:58 PM   #20 
           - Something about unexpected side effects....:  boppers   Nov-09-09 10:31 PM   #22 
              - Easy  demwing   Nov-09-09 10:41 PM   #24 
              - I was thinking it would go the other way, actually.  boppers   Nov-10-09 01:10 AM   #26 
                 - point taken /nt  demwing   Nov-10-09 05:15 AM   #28 
              - Basically  Hutzpa   Nov-09-09 10:43 PM   #25 
  - I mistook your user ID for someone else  Hutzpa   Nov-09-09 10:39 PM   #23 
 

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