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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 01:18 PM
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82. I feel as if I won. If this makes it all the way through and is signed
into law it will mean I will be able to get the medical care I need to keep me mobile in my advancing years. Without a hip replacement I could very well find myself a customer of the Scooter Store in a few years. Despite my chronic pain, I'm a very active person and that would be devastating.
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  -I don't know if we won tonight or not. Ken Burch  Nov-08-09 02:23 AM   #0 
  - "Main Street" might have won  MSchreader   Nov-08-09 02:30 AM   #1 
  - This "go to jail" thing -- Politifact says it is BS, basically. . .  emulatorloo   Nov-08-09 02:38 AM   #6 
  - What's the point of a mandate  MSchreader   Nov-08-09 02:49 AM   #12 
     - Dunno, I guess John Ensign explains it all in that piece I linked.  emulatorloo   Nov-08-09 02:52 AM   #14 
     - Would you like another shiny lure  MSchreader   Nov-08-09 02:56 AM   #18 
        - It is not my job to sort through propaganda from rightwing astroturf groups for you n/t  emulatorloo   Nov-08-09 03:08 AM   #25 
           - Then why try to tar people who disagree with you  MSchreader   Nov-08-09 03:41 AM   #43 
              - I am not responsible for your gullibility. Reread the Politifact analysis, maybe it will help  emulatorloo   Nov-08-09 01:35 PM   #84 
                 - I did read it  MSchreader   Nov-08-09 03:44 PM   #94 
     - I believe under a year is a misdemeanor; over a year is a felony...  ChicagoSuz219   Nov-08-09 05:51 AM   #63 
     - The insrance companies love that mandate stuff  Garam_Masala   Nov-08-09 02:46 PM   #92 
  - So many GOP talking points  niceypoo   Nov-08-09 09:54 AM   #74 
  - I love that term you coined--Healthcare Outlaws  Garam_Masala   Nov-08-09 02:42 PM   #90 
  - Well here is a start:  emulatorloo   Nov-08-09 02:32 AM   #2 
  - Cheerleading thread that means little or nothing in the light of reality.  cornermouse   Nov-08-09 03:51 AM   #51 
     - It means nothing to you but that means America is  Cha   Nov-08-09 04:43 PM   #98 
  - 38 million of the downtrotten won.  FrenchieCat   Nov-08-09 02:34 AM   #3 
  - Not if they can't afford the insurance  MSchreader   Nov-08-09 02:35 AM   #4 
  - People who can't afford insurance will get help. EOM  emulatorloo   Nov-08-09 02:39 AM   #7 
  - Yeah.... sock it to the top 1% eom  Garam_Masala   Nov-08-09 02:44 PM   #91 
  - That isn't how it will work, and you know it.  FrenchieCat   Nov-08-09 02:40 AM   #8 
     - Neither does this bill  MSchreader   Nov-08-09 02:55 AM   #17 
        - That isn't true.....  FrenchieCat   Nov-08-09 03:10 AM   #28 
  - Assuming that nothing else is removed in conference.  Ken Burch   Nov-08-09 02:42 AM   #10 
  - Can some one tell me where are the additional doctors for those 38 Million  Garam_Masala   Nov-08-09 02:52 PM   #93 
  - We didn't  AllentownJake   Nov-08-09 02:37 AM   #5 
  - You lost....  FrenchieCat   Nov-08-09 02:42 AM   #9 
     - You are going to dance around the concerns  AllentownJake   Nov-08-09 02:47 AM   #11 
        - My concern are those who aren't able to see a doctor now,  FrenchieCat   Nov-08-09 03:22 AM   #32 
           - Those people will still be unable to see a doctor  AllentownJake   Nov-08-09 03:25 AM   #36 
              - Why lie?  FrenchieCat   Nov-08-09 03:27 AM   #38 
                 - Allentown's a liar...that's why he lies  alcibiades_mystery   Nov-08-09 06:18 AM   #65 
  - Who knows or cares anymore. I was told I was being selfish for liking one aspect of the bill.  Jennicut   Nov-08-09 02:50 AM   #13 
  - Dunno, New threads you've started suggest you aren't really "willing to be persuaded"  emulatorloo   Nov-08-09 02:53 AM   #15 
  - Whatever.  Ken Burch   Nov-08-09 02:54 AM   #16 
     - So what happened to "I'm willing to be persuaded"?  emulatorloo   Nov-08-09 02:58 AM   #19 
     - I've heard no arguments thus far other than "shut up and know your place"  Ken Burch   Nov-08-09 03:00 AM   #20 
        - Actually, I provided some facts in your thread.....  FrenchieCat   Nov-08-09 03:30 AM   #39 
           - OK. I'll exempt you from that statement  Ken Burch   Nov-08-09 03:57 AM   #53 
     - Some people are happy that they are that much closer to  FrenchieCat   Nov-08-09 03:01 AM   #22 
        - And others are upset because this doesn't bring them one inch closer  MSchreader   Nov-08-09 03:04 AM   #23 
           - What is your situation?  FrenchieCat   Nov-08-09 03:06 AM   #24 
              - I have no shame in telling you  MSchreader   Nov-08-09 03:33 AM   #40 
                 - You will get what you need from this bill.....  FrenchieCat   Nov-08-09 03:48 AM   #48 
                    - Honestly, I hope you're right  MSchreader   Nov-08-09 03:55 AM   #52 
                       - Your wish is my wish......  FrenchieCat   Nov-08-09 04:14 AM   #56 
  - You wont know for another 10+ years  Oregone   Nov-08-09 03:00 AM   #21 
  - We had an 80 yard drive that ended with a Field Goal instead of a Touchdown...  scheming daemons   Nov-08-09 03:08 AM   #26 
  - More like a fumble and a saftey  AllentownJake   Nov-08-09 03:10 AM   #27 
     - More like you forfeit, cause you aren't even brave enough to play,  FrenchieCat   Nov-08-09 03:12 AM   #29 
        - This isn't a fucking game  AllentownJake   Nov-08-09 03:16 AM   #30 
           - That is correct, lives are on the line,  FrenchieCat   Nov-08-09 03:21 AM   #31 
           - You didn't respond to the critique  AllentownJake   Nov-08-09 03:23 AM   #34 
           - That's the problem, isn't it?  FrenchieCat   Nov-08-09 03:26 AM   #37 
              - I guess President Obama woke up one day  AllentownJake   Nov-08-09 03:33 AM   #41 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-08-09 03:41 AM   #44 
                    - Delete  MSchreader   Nov-08-09 03:50 AM   #50 
           - ATJ's logic: Since it doesn't help everyone, it therefore helps no one  scheming daemons   Nov-08-09 03:25 AM   #35 
           - Fucking deadbeat proles!  JVS   Nov-08-09 07:57 AM   #68 
  - Here's how you know if we won:  scheming daemons   Nov-08-09 03:22 AM   #33 
  - THAT'S how you measure success?  Skittles   Nov-08-09 03:46 AM   #47 
  - I don't know if it's a good metric...  backscatter712   Nov-08-09 09:40 AM   #72 
     - Has it ever been wrong?  Cha   Nov-08-09 04:45 PM   #99 
  - What part of "Party of No" don't you understand?  MSchreader   Nov-08-09 04:52 AM   #60 
  - True enough. They were against letting a Democratic president tell kids to do their homework  Ken Burch   Nov-08-09 01:03 PM   #78 
  - They do that when the President goes out for cheeseburgers. Was that a massively successful lunch?  JVS   Nov-08-09 09:41 AM   #73 
  - The fact they felt they had the right to throw women's rights  cornermouse   Nov-08-09 03:38 AM   #42 
  - What is it about the Hyde Amendment that's got you confused.....  FrenchieCat   Nov-08-09 03:43 AM   #45 
  - Why you are wrong.  cornermouse   Nov-08-09 03:49 AM   #49 
  - Are you saying that since bill doesn't benefit you directly,  FrenchieCat   Nov-08-09 03:59 AM   #54 
     - No. I'm telling you exactly why this bill is a failure.  cornermouse   Nov-08-09 04:08 AM   #55 
        - You have a right to feel as you do......  FrenchieCat   Nov-08-09 04:16 AM   #57 
           - Insurance companies have what they want.  cornermouse   Nov-08-09 04:29 AM   #58 
  - That amendment goes past the Hyde Amendment  TheKentuckian   Nov-08-09 05:20 AM   #61 
  - I disagree with the abortion amendment, but no one's "rights" were thrown on the table.  phleshdef   Nov-08-09 04:47 AM   #59 
     - life != health  boppers   Nov-08-09 05:54 AM   #64 
     - I don't know about sterile or crippled, but making her suicidal or homicidal?  phleshdef   Nov-08-09 08:48 AM   #70 
        - Yes, mental health can be fixed by telling somebody to "grow the fuck up".  boppers   Nov-08-09 04:40 PM   #97 
     - "just because she doesn't FEEL like carrying a fetus to full term"?  Ken Burch   Nov-08-09 01:00 PM   #75 
  - I hear you Ken  Skittles   Nov-08-09 03:45 AM   #46 
  - It's insulting to women to define them as baby factories.  boppers   Nov-08-09 05:28 AM   #62 
  - inside the nutshell.  cornermouse   Nov-08-09 06:41 AM   #66 
  - Once again, we have a Democratic administration that won't commit itself  Ken Burch   Nov-08-09 01:02 PM   #76 
  - If women don't have total control over their reproductive options  Ken Burch   Nov-08-09 01:19 PM   #83 
     - It's a different world now.  boppers   Nov-08-09 04:33 PM   #96 
  - REC because OP expresses my conflicted feeling. Yay! Sigh... /nt  philly_bob   Nov-08-09 07:41 AM   #67 
  - Unless you're a healthcare executive, you got boned.  salguine   Nov-08-09 08:01 AM   #69 
  - We got some of what we wanted.  backscatter712   Nov-08-09 09:39 AM   #71 
  - This reminds me of the French being told by the Vichy government that it was the best deal possible  IndianaGreen   Nov-08-09 01:03 PM   #77 
  - Hi IG!  MSchreader   Nov-08-09 03:54 PM   #95 
     - Where have you been hiding for the last couple of years?  IndianaGreen   Nov-08-09 05:35 PM   #100 
  - Of course we won. But I'm sure you can find some reason to throw a fit  Aramchek   Nov-08-09 01:09 PM   #79 
  - It's not about me being picky. It's about principle.  Ken Burch   Nov-08-09 01:14 PM   #80 
     - If your principles preclude you from helping people, you may have the wrong principles  Aramchek   Nov-08-09 01:15 PM   #81 
        - my principles preclude abandoning women.  Ken Burch   Nov-08-09 01:43 PM   #85 
           - What a fucking cop-out.  msallied   Nov-08-09 02:08 PM   #86 
              - The Stupak Amendment is in for eternity.  Ken Burch   Nov-08-09 02:12 PM   #87 
  - I feel as if I won. If this makes it all the way through and is signed  Vinca   Nov-08-09 01:18 PM   #82 
  - Unless this great new insurance you think you'll get figures out a way to deny you.  salguine   Nov-08-09 02:24 PM   #88 
     - That's kind of the point of the entire exercise. The one thing  Vinca   Nov-08-09 02:37 PM   #89 
  - The party won a victory. n/t  Orsino   Nov-08-09 05:55 PM   #101 

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