scheming daemons
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Sun Nov-08-09 03:25 AM
Response to Reply #31 |
| 35. ATJ's logic: Since it doesn't help everyone, it therefore helps no one |
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This bill helps millions of people.
Those people don't matter to ATJ... because the bill apparently doesn't help everyone.
So... since there aren't enough lifeboats to save all the passengers, NONE of them are to get on lifeboats and must all go down with the ship.
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| -I don't know if we won tonight or not. |
Ken Burch |
Nov-08-09 02:23 AM |
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"Main Street" might have won |
MSchreader |
Nov-08-09 02:30 AM |
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This "go to jail" thing -- Politifact says it is BS, basically. . . |
emulatorloo |
Nov-08-09 02:38 AM |
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What's the point of a mandate |
MSchreader |
Nov-08-09 02:49 AM |
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Dunno, I guess John Ensign explains it all in that piece I linked. |
emulatorloo |
Nov-08-09 02:52 AM |
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Would you like another shiny lure |
MSchreader |
Nov-08-09 02:56 AM |
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It is not my job to sort through propaganda from rightwing astroturf groups for you n/t |
emulatorloo |
Nov-08-09 03:08 AM |
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Then why try to tar people who disagree with you |
MSchreader |
Nov-08-09 03:41 AM |
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I am not responsible for your gullibility. Reread the Politifact analysis, maybe it will help |
emulatorloo |
Nov-08-09 01:35 PM |
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I did read it |
MSchreader |
Nov-08-09 03:44 PM |
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I believe under a year is a misdemeanor; over a year is a felony... |
ChicagoSuz219 |
Nov-08-09 05:51 AM |
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The insrance companies love that mandate stuff |
Garam_Masala |
Nov-08-09 02:46 PM |
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So many GOP talking points |
niceypoo |
Nov-08-09 09:54 AM |
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I love that term you coined--Healthcare Outlaws |
Garam_Masala |
Nov-08-09 02:42 PM |
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Well here is a start: |
emulatorloo |
Nov-08-09 02:32 AM |
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Cheerleading thread that means little or nothing in the light of reality. |
cornermouse |
Nov-08-09 03:51 AM |
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It means nothing to you but that means America is |
Cha |
Nov-08-09 04:43 PM |
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38 million of the downtrotten won. |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-08-09 02:34 AM |
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Not if they can't afford the insurance |
MSchreader |
Nov-08-09 02:35 AM |
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People who can't afford insurance will get help. EOM |
emulatorloo |
Nov-08-09 02:39 AM |
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Yeah.... sock it to the top 1% eom |
Garam_Masala |
Nov-08-09 02:44 PM |
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That isn't how it will work, and you know it. |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-08-09 02:40 AM |
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Neither does this bill |
MSchreader |
Nov-08-09 02:55 AM |
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That isn't true..... |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-08-09 03:10 AM |
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Assuming that nothing else is removed in conference. |
Ken Burch |
Nov-08-09 02:42 AM |
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Can some one tell me where are the additional doctors for those 38 Million |
Garam_Masala |
Nov-08-09 02:52 PM |
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We didn't |
AllentownJake |
Nov-08-09 02:37 AM |
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You lost.... |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-08-09 02:42 AM |
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You are going to dance around the concerns |
AllentownJake |
Nov-08-09 02:47 AM |
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My concern are those who aren't able to see a doctor now, |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-08-09 03:22 AM |
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Those people will still be unable to see a doctor |
AllentownJake |
Nov-08-09 03:25 AM |
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Why lie? |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-08-09 03:27 AM |
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Allentown's a liar...that's why he lies |
alcibiades_mystery |
Nov-08-09 06:18 AM |
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Who knows or cares anymore. I was told I was being selfish for liking one aspect of the bill. |
Jennicut |
Nov-08-09 02:50 AM |
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Dunno, New threads you've started suggest you aren't really "willing to be persuaded" |
emulatorloo |
Nov-08-09 02:53 AM |
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Whatever. |
Ken Burch |
Nov-08-09 02:54 AM |
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So what happened to "I'm willing to be persuaded"? |
emulatorloo |
Nov-08-09 02:58 AM |
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I've heard no arguments thus far other than "shut up and know your place" |
Ken Burch |
Nov-08-09 03:00 AM |
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Actually, I provided some facts in your thread..... |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-08-09 03:30 AM |
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OK. I'll exempt you from that statement |
Ken Burch |
Nov-08-09 03:57 AM |
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Some people are happy that they are that much closer to |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-08-09 03:01 AM |
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And others are upset because this doesn't bring them one inch closer |
MSchreader |
Nov-08-09 03:04 AM |
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What is your situation? |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-08-09 03:06 AM |
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I have no shame in telling you |
MSchreader |
Nov-08-09 03:33 AM |
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You will get what you need from this bill..... |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-08-09 03:48 AM |
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Honestly, I hope you're right |
MSchreader |
Nov-08-09 03:55 AM |
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Your wish is my wish...... |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-08-09 04:14 AM |
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You wont know for another 10+ years |
Oregone |
Nov-08-09 03:00 AM |
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We had an 80 yard drive that ended with a Field Goal instead of a Touchdown... |
scheming daemons |
Nov-08-09 03:08 AM |
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More like a fumble and a saftey |
AllentownJake |
Nov-08-09 03:10 AM |
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More like you forfeit, cause you aren't even brave enough to play, |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-08-09 03:12 AM |
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This isn't a fucking game |
AllentownJake |
Nov-08-09 03:16 AM |
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That is correct, lives are on the line, |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-08-09 03:21 AM |
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You didn't respond to the critique |
AllentownJake |
Nov-08-09 03:23 AM |
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That's the problem, isn't it? |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-08-09 03:26 AM |
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I guess President Obama woke up one day |
AllentownJake |
Nov-08-09 03:33 AM |
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Nov-08-09 03:41 AM |
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Delete |
MSchreader |
Nov-08-09 03:50 AM |
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ATJ's logic: Since it doesn't help everyone, it therefore helps no one |
scheming daemons |
Nov-08-09 03:25 AM |
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Fucking deadbeat proles! |
JVS |
Nov-08-09 07:57 AM |
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Here's how you know if we won: |
scheming daemons |
Nov-08-09 03:22 AM |
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THAT'S how you measure success? |
Skittles |
Nov-08-09 03:46 AM |
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I don't know if it's a good metric... |
backscatter712 |
Nov-08-09 09:40 AM |
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Has it ever been wrong? |
Cha |
Nov-08-09 04:45 PM |
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What part of "Party of No" don't you understand? |
MSchreader |
Nov-08-09 04:52 AM |
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True enough. They were against letting a Democratic president tell kids to do their homework |
Ken Burch |
Nov-08-09 01:03 PM |
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They do that when the President goes out for cheeseburgers. Was that a massively successful lunch? |
JVS |
Nov-08-09 09:41 AM |
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The fact they felt they had the right to throw women's rights |
cornermouse |
Nov-08-09 03:38 AM |
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What is it about the Hyde Amendment that's got you confused..... |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-08-09 03:43 AM |
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Why you are wrong. |
cornermouse |
Nov-08-09 03:49 AM |
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Are you saying that since bill doesn't benefit you directly, |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-08-09 03:59 AM |
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No. I'm telling you exactly why this bill is a failure. |
cornermouse |
Nov-08-09 04:08 AM |
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You have a right to feel as you do...... |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-08-09 04:16 AM |
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Insurance companies have what they want. |
cornermouse |
Nov-08-09 04:29 AM |
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That amendment goes past the Hyde Amendment |
TheKentuckian |
Nov-08-09 05:20 AM |
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I disagree with the abortion amendment, but no one's "rights" were thrown on the table. |
phleshdef |
Nov-08-09 04:47 AM |
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life != health |
boppers |
Nov-08-09 05:54 AM |
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I don't know about sterile or crippled, but making her suicidal or homicidal? |
phleshdef |
Nov-08-09 08:48 AM |
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Yes, mental health can be fixed by telling somebody to "grow the fuck up". |
boppers |
Nov-08-09 04:40 PM |
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"just because she doesn't FEEL like carrying a fetus to full term"? |
Ken Burch |
Nov-08-09 01:00 PM |
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I hear you Ken |
Skittles |
Nov-08-09 03:45 AM |
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It's insulting to women to define them as baby factories. |
boppers |
Nov-08-09 05:28 AM |
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inside the nutshell. |
cornermouse |
Nov-08-09 06:41 AM |
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Once again, we have a Democratic administration that won't commit itself |
Ken Burch |
Nov-08-09 01:02 PM |
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If women don't have total control over their reproductive options |
Ken Burch |
Nov-08-09 01:19 PM |
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It's a different world now. |
boppers |
Nov-08-09 04:33 PM |
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REC because OP expresses my conflicted feeling. Yay! Sigh... /nt |
philly_bob |
Nov-08-09 07:41 AM |
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Unless you're a healthcare executive, you got boned. |
salguine |
Nov-08-09 08:01 AM |
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We got some of what we wanted. |
backscatter712 |
Nov-08-09 09:39 AM |
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This reminds me of the French being told by the Vichy government that it was the best deal possible |
IndianaGreen |
Nov-08-09 01:03 PM |
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Hi IG! |
MSchreader |
Nov-08-09 03:54 PM |
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Where have you been hiding for the last couple of years? |
IndianaGreen |
Nov-08-09 05:35 PM |
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Of course we won. But I'm sure you can find some reason to throw a fit |
Aramchek |
Nov-08-09 01:09 PM |
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It's not about me being picky. It's about principle. |
Ken Burch |
Nov-08-09 01:14 PM |
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If your principles preclude you from helping people, you may have the wrong principles |
Aramchek |
Nov-08-09 01:15 PM |
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my principles preclude abandoning women. |
Ken Burch |
Nov-08-09 01:43 PM |
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What a fucking cop-out. |
msallied |
Nov-08-09 02:08 PM |
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The Stupak Amendment is in for eternity. |
Ken Burch |
Nov-08-09 02:12 PM |
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I feel as if I won. If this makes it all the way through and is signed |
Vinca |
Nov-08-09 01:18 PM |
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Unless this great new insurance you think you'll get figures out a way to deny you. |
salguine |
Nov-08-09 02:24 PM |
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That's kind of the point of the entire exercise. The one thing |
Vinca |
Nov-08-09 02:37 PM |
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The party won a victory. n/t |
Orsino |
Nov-08-09 05:55 PM |
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