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| -Tonight, Obama and the Dem leadership delivered a great victory for insurance company CEOs |
brentspeak |
Nov-07-09 11:00 PM |
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Nov-07-09 11:01 PM |
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Nov-07-09 11:04 PM |
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Then why did the insurance cos oppose the bill? |
bluestateguy |
Nov-07-09 11:02 PM |
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Logic is wasted on the Disloyal Dem chorus. |
geek tragedy |
Nov-07-09 11:03 PM |
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social change is never really achieved in trivial increments. |
Ken Burch |
Nov-08-09 02:25 AM |
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Actually, your grasp of history is way off... |
scheming daemons |
Nov-08-09 03:11 AM |
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never mind 1965, try 1865 |
CTLawGuy |
Nov-09-09 06:26 AM |
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ROFLMAO |
HamdenRice |
Nov-08-09 05:35 AM |
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Before 1964, there were never any meaningful gains |
Ken Burch |
Nov-08-09 12:57 PM |
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You are almost an uninformed as the Repuks. |
olegramps |
Nov-08-09 01:28 PM |
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No, on that one I'm right. |
Ken Burch |
Nov-08-09 01:40 PM |
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OK...put up or shut up |
Ken Burch |
Nov-08-09 06:39 PM |
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December 6, 1865 |
demwing |
Nov-08-09 08:29 PM |
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May I remind you that the 14th and 15th Amendments were NEVER enforced? |
Ken Burch |
Nov-09-09 12:32 AM |
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Never enforced? |
HamdenRice |
Nov-09-09 05:20 AM |
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It was part of the devil's bargain both parties made after the 1876 election |
Ken Burch |
Nov-09-09 09:35 AM |
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If they were never enforced, what was "Shelly v. Kraemer"? |
HamdenRice |
Nov-09-09 10:54 AM |
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And if the African American community agreed with you |
Ken Burch |
Nov-09-09 11:43 AM |
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What a dumb post. |
HamdenRice |
Nov-09-09 12:41 PM |
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Brown v. Board of education |
CTLawGuy |
Nov-09-09 06:28 AM |
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A Supreme Court decision isn't incrementalism |
Ken Burch |
Nov-09-09 10:01 AM |
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But it was based on dozens of incremental cases that came before it |
HamdenRice |
Nov-09-09 10:58 AM |
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on the contrary |
CTLawGuy |
Nov-10-09 06:17 AM |
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The14th and15th amendments came BEFORE Plessy |
Ken Burch |
Nov-10-09 05:00 PM |
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those amendments had extremely narrow interpretations at first |
CTLawGuy |
Nov-11-09 06:20 AM |
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Nov-08-09 03:42 PM |
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The Civil Rights Act of 1886 was worthless |
Ken Burch |
Nov-08-09 05:57 PM |
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So much for 100 years of history |
HamdenRice |
Nov-08-09 06:06 PM |
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The black freedom movement were heroes |
Ken Burch |
Nov-08-09 06:08 PM |
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You are really embarrassing yourself |
HamdenRice |
Nov-09-09 05:15 AM |
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I did NOT say that nobody worked for Civil Rights before 1964 |
Ken Burch |
Nov-09-09 10:02 AM |
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No one said you did. You said there were no achievements. I listed them. |
HamdenRice |
Nov-09-09 10:37 AM |
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you're of the "when i make a fool of myself grab a shovel and start digging" school of thought. |
dionysus |
Nov-08-09 06:19 PM |
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I didn't make a fool of myself |
Ken Burch |
Nov-08-09 06:25 PM |
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Yes you did. Definitely. It's sad. nt |
HamdenRice |
Nov-09-09 05:20 AM |
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Yes he did. It's unbelievably sad. |
suzie |
Nov-10-09 11:14 AM |
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You're a pompous (and wrong) idiot. You proved KB's point. |
Waiting For Everyman |
Nov-08-09 08:40 PM |
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Thanks for that incoherent non-contribution to the discussion! |
HamdenRice |
Nov-09-09 05:21 AM |
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They did endorse it...until a few days ago when talk about reducing the mandate popped up |
brentspeak |
Nov-07-09 11:05 PM |
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Super Jedi Mind Trick, Obviously. nt |
mikiturner |
Nov-07-09 11:05 PM |
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No, no, no, you underestimate... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Nov-07-09 11:06 PM |
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I think I figured out why insurance was against it |
Garam_Masala |
Nov-07-09 11:16 PM |
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That's part of the game. They oppose it even while they get special access. You don't get it |
Go2Peace |
Nov-08-09 01:51 AM |
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Wrong |
RoyGBiv |
Nov-07-09 11:03 PM |
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Maybe it's closer to $2 trillion for insurance companies |
brentspeak |
Nov-07-09 11:06 PM |
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Still wrong |
RoyGBiv |
Nov-08-09 01:41 AM |
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Being a ray of sunshine again. |
Kdillard |
Nov-07-09 11:03 PM |
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Sorry. |
jefferson_dem |
Nov-07-09 11:03 PM |
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You're celebrating a slice, not half a loaf |
Ken Burch |
Nov-08-09 02:27 AM |
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Insurance stocks would be hitting all-time highs if this was the windfall that you implied. |
Zynx |
Nov-07-09 11:03 PM |
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That was good to read - thanks much! |
Deja Q |
Nov-07-09 11:06 PM |
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The whole market is down by 35% |
Garam_Masala |
Nov-09-09 01:16 AM |
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Last year? Uh, Bush was president last year. Obama has not been in office for even 1 year yet. |
Deja Q |
Nov-07-09 11:04 PM |
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This wasn't Obama in the Senate, pushing hard to get TARP passed? |
brentspeak |
Nov-07-09 11:09 PM |
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Obama would never break a campaign promise. |
ej510 |
Nov-07-09 11:13 PM |
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wrong on the facts and wrong on the logic but you get points for consistency |
grantcart |
Nov-07-09 11:04 PM |
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yeah, that's why they spent so much $ lobbying against it. nt |
cry baby |
Nov-07-09 11:06 PM |
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You seem to forget that Tarp was started and advocated for by Bush |
Kdillard |
Nov-07-09 11:06 PM |
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Who is the person in this video? |
brentspeak |
Nov-07-09 11:11 PM |
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Le sigh you seem to have a problem with Democrats because |
Kdillard |
Nov-07-09 11:19 PM |
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Ok, so now we've established that really was Obama in the video |
brentspeak |
Nov-07-09 11:25 PM |
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Yes he voted for it as a Senator as did many others otherwise it would not have passed. |
Kdillard |
Nov-07-09 11:32 PM |
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I like Democrats. More specifically, real Democrats |
brentspeak |
Nov-07-09 11:41 PM |
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Brentspeak I am afraid you are going to spend the next 4 or 8 years |
Kdillard |
Nov-08-09 12:49 AM |
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like johnny hedge fund eh? |
dionysus |
Nov-08-09 06:22 PM |
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delete. |
Kdillard |
Nov-07-09 11:19 PM |
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They really appreciate the repeal of their anti-trust exemption |
andym |
Nov-07-09 11:07 PM |
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GO PISS IN YOUR SOUP ! I am SICK of your STUPID naysaying pissing and moaning ! |
RBInMaine |
Nov-07-09 11:07 PM |
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+1000. It's getting REALLY old |
ecstatic |
Nov-07-09 11:11 PM |
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And there are a lot of us that are sick of your shit too! |
earth mom |
Nov-08-09 02:19 AM |
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you know what? i for one am glad obama's presidency makes you miserable. it's nectar to my soul. |
dionysus |
Nov-08-09 06:16 PM |
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Your posts are nectar to mine. lol |
msallied |
Nov-08-09 06:26 PM |
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why, thank you! |
dionysus |
Nov-08-09 06:29 PM |
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+1 |
suzie |
Nov-10-09 06:53 PM |
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Bobby Kennedy wouldn't be celebrating last night's vote |
Ken Burch |
Nov-08-09 06:27 PM |
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he would considering the congress we have. |
dionysus |
Nov-08-09 06:30 PM |
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Yeah, and people like me and others here can just sit around and twiddle our thumbs some more |
Jennicut |
Nov-07-09 11:10 PM |
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he doesn't give a flying fuck about health care. this is his bitter personal mission against obama. |
dionysus |
Nov-08-09 06:18 PM |
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How about some cheese to go with your shitty whine ? |
RBInMaine |
Nov-07-09 11:11 PM |
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You are so WRONG! You are so WRONG! |
ind_thinker2 |
Nov-07-09 11:12 PM |
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I'd be covered on the PO. So I'd say as one of the people...victory for me with my taxes. n/t |
vaberella |
Nov-07-09 11:12 PM |
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But vabrella, you are being selfish when we could have perfection....in 15 years. |
Jennicut |
Nov-07-09 11:18 PM |
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That's if they'd be given that chance to "start over." |
vaberella |
Nov-07-09 11:29 PM |
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They wouldn't. And you would be out of luck. |
Jennicut |
Nov-07-09 11:32 PM |
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Oh fuck this shit. |
liberalmuse |
Nov-07-09 11:13 PM |
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Nov-07-09 11:14 PM |
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What's affordable to you? |
ej510 |
Nov-07-09 11:30 PM |
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lol your subject line... |
NYC_SKP |
Nov-07-09 11:43 PM |
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Yea that whole having to pay out 85% o their intake to customers, losing anti-trust exemptions... |
phleshdef |
Nov-07-09 11:14 PM |
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There is already a loophole for that 85% requirement. n/t |
ipaint |
Nov-07-09 11:47 PM |
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Blah blah blah blah blahhhhhhh... |
CakeGrrl |
Nov-07-09 11:20 PM |
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"Nah, nah, nah! I can't hear you!!!!" |
brentspeak |
Nov-07-09 11:26 PM |
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Not surprising. You're in your own world. n/t |
CakeGrrl |
Nov-07-09 11:28 PM |
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The devil is in the details |
IndianaGreen |
Nov-07-09 11:39 PM |
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Mitt Romney couldn't have written a better bill himself. |
ej510 |
Nov-07-09 11:44 PM |
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Wealth transferred from millionaires to insurance companies to cover 36m people. |
Scarsdale Vibe |
Nov-07-09 11:46 PM |
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Being forced ro by insurance from private corporations |
ej510 |
Nov-07-09 11:51 PM |
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Actually, didn't Hillary and Edwards both support mandates in the primary? |
Jennicut |
Nov-08-09 12:06 AM |
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why yes, of course they did. |
dionysus |
Nov-08-09 06:23 PM |
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SHHH! We arent suposed to remember that. |
Egnever |
Nov-09-09 12:54 AM |
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brentspite |
Aramchek |
Nov-07-09 11:48 PM |
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Which is why they opposed it |
CreekDog |
Nov-07-09 11:53 PM |
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no it was their secret plan to mass-oppose a bill they really like |
CTLawGuy |
Nov-09-09 06:33 AM |
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The insurance companies fought to neuter the public option. |
ipaint |
Nov-07-09 11:56 PM |
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Don't that get you down, because it is a great day for |
ej510 |
Nov-08-09 12:05 AM |
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oh, thanks, I forgot to be excited... |
joeycola |
Nov-08-09 03:52 AM |
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Nov-08-09 12:47 AM |
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Banks and Insurance companies = Same Same. |
earth mom |
Nov-08-09 02:17 AM |
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CORRECT |
Skittles |
Nov-08-09 03:55 AM |
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bulshit, bullshit and more bullshit. |
lonestarnot |
Nov-08-09 04:02 AM |
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You're still here? |
lamp_shade |
Nov-08-09 05:30 AM |
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Then why didn't every Rethuglican vote for it? |
treestar |
Nov-08-09 03:35 PM |
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Because defeating Obama is a higher priority here |
Truth2Tell |
Nov-09-09 12:47 AM |
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Substantiate your 2% claim or STFU. nt |
Bonobo |
Nov-08-09 03:46 PM |
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brent, really sorry john edwards was such a dismal failure that you feel the need to do this. |
dionysus |
Nov-08-09 06:15 PM |
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Couldn't agree more. |
Waiting For Everyman |
Nov-08-09 08:43 PM |
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available to 2%? |
CTLawGuy |
Nov-09-09 06:30 AM |
#102 |
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