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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:00 PM
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Tonight, Obama and the Dem leadership delivered a great victory for insurance company CEOs
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Edited on Sat Nov-07-09 11:16 PM by brentspeak
Just like the great victory they handed to the banks last year.

At least $1 trillion of taxpayer money to private insurance. And a nation of captive customers. With no cost containment. And a "public" option available to just a whopping 2% or so of the American public.

That deserves more than just one victory lap, don't you think?




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  -Tonight, Obama and the Dem leadership delivered a great victory for insurance company CEOs brentspeak  Nov-07-09 11:00 PM   #0 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-07-09 11:01 PM   #1 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-07-09 11:02 PM   #3 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-07-09 11:04 PM   #8 
  - Then why did the insurance cos oppose the bill?  bluestateguy   Nov-07-09 11:02 PM   #2 
  - Logic is wasted on the Disloyal Dem chorus.  geek tragedy   Nov-07-09 11:03 PM   #4 
  - social change is never really achieved in trivial increments.  Ken Burch   Nov-08-09 02:25 AM   #60 
     - Actually, your grasp of history is way off...  scheming daemons   Nov-08-09 03:11 AM   #62 
     - never mind 1965, try 1865  CTLawGuy   Nov-09-09 06:26 AM   #100 
     - ROFLMAO  HamdenRice   Nov-08-09 05:35 AM   #67 
        - Before 1964, there were never any meaningful gains  Ken Burch   Nov-08-09 12:57 PM   #68 
           - You are almost an uninformed as the Repuks.  olegramps   Nov-08-09 01:28 PM   #69 
           - No, on that one I'm right.  Ken Burch   Nov-08-09 01:40 PM   #70 
           - OK...put up or shut up  Ken Burch   Nov-08-09 06:39 PM   #88 
              - December 6, 1865  demwing   Nov-08-09 08:29 PM   #89 
              - May I remind you that the 14th and 15th Amendments were NEVER enforced?  Ken Burch   Nov-09-09 12:32 AM   #92 
                 - Never enforced?  HamdenRice   Nov-09-09 05:20 AM   #97 
                    - It was part of the devil's bargain both parties made after the 1876 election  Ken Burch   Nov-09-09 09:35 AM   #104 
                       - If they were never enforced, what was "Shelly v. Kraemer"?  HamdenRice   Nov-09-09 10:54 AM   #108 
                          - And if the African American community agreed with you  Ken Burch   Nov-09-09 11:43 AM   #110 
                             - What a dumb post.  HamdenRice   Nov-09-09 12:41 PM   #111 
              - Brown v. Board of education  CTLawGuy   Nov-09-09 06:28 AM   #101 
                 - A Supreme Court decision isn't incrementalism  Ken Burch   Nov-09-09 10:01 AM   #105 
                    - But it was based on dozens of incremental cases that came before it  HamdenRice   Nov-09-09 10:58 AM   #109 
                    - on the contrary  CTLawGuy   Nov-10-09 06:17 AM   #112 
                       - The14th and15th amendments came BEFORE Plessy  Ken Burch   Nov-10-09 05:00 PM   #114 
                          - those amendments had extremely narrow interpretations at first  CTLawGuy   Nov-11-09 06:20 AM   #116 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-08-09 03:42 PM   #72 
              - The Civil Rights Act of 1886 was worthless  Ken Burch   Nov-08-09 05:57 PM   #74 
              - So much for 100 years of history  HamdenRice   Nov-08-09 06:06 PM   #75 
              - The black freedom movement were heroes  Ken Burch   Nov-08-09 06:08 PM   #76 
                 - You are really embarrassing yourself  HamdenRice   Nov-09-09 05:15 AM   #96 
                    - I did NOT say that nobody worked for Civil Rights before 1964  Ken Burch   Nov-09-09 10:02 AM   #106 
                       - No one said you did. You said there were no achievements. I listed them.  HamdenRice   Nov-09-09 10:37 AM   #107 
              - you're of the "when i make a fool of myself grab a shovel and start digging" school of thought.  dionysus   Nov-08-09 06:19 PM   #80 
                 - I didn't make a fool of myself  Ken Burch   Nov-08-09 06:25 PM   #83 
                    - Yes you did. Definitely. It's sad. nt  HamdenRice   Nov-09-09 05:20 AM   #98 
                       - Yes he did. It's unbelievably sad.  suzie   Nov-10-09 11:14 AM   #113 
              - You're a pompous (and wrong) idiot. You proved KB's point.  Waiting For Everyman   Nov-08-09 08:40 PM   #90 
                 - Thanks for that incoherent non-contribution to the discussion!  HamdenRice   Nov-09-09 05:21 AM   #99 
  - They did endorse it...until a few days ago when talk about reducing the mandate popped up  brentspeak   Nov-07-09 11:05 PM   #11 
  - Super Jedi Mind Trick, Obviously. nt  mikiturner   Nov-07-09 11:05 PM   #12 
  - No, no, no, you underestimate...  Davis_X_Machina   Nov-07-09 11:06 PM   #15 
  - I think I figured out why insurance was against it  Garam_Masala   Nov-07-09 11:16 PM   #30 
  - That's part of the game. They oppose it even while they get special access. You don't get it  Go2Peace   Nov-08-09 01:51 AM   #57 
  - Wrong  RoyGBiv   Nov-07-09 11:03 PM   #5 
  - Maybe it's closer to $2 trillion for insurance companies  brentspeak   Nov-07-09 11:06 PM   #13 
     - Still wrong  RoyGBiv   Nov-08-09 01:41 AM   #56 
  - Being a ray of sunshine again.  Kdillard   Nov-07-09 11:03 PM   # 
  - Sorry.  jefferson_dem   Nov-07-09 11:03 PM   #6 
  - You're celebrating a slice, not half a loaf  Ken Burch   Nov-08-09 02:27 AM   #61 
  - Insurance stocks would be hitting all-time highs if this was the windfall that you implied.  Zynx   Nov-07-09 11:03 PM   #7 
  - That was good to read - thanks much!  Deja Q   Nov-07-09 11:06 PM   #14 
  - The whole market is down by 35%  Garam_Masala   Nov-09-09 01:16 AM   #95 
  - Last year? Uh, Bush was president last year. Obama has not been in office for even 1 year yet.  Deja Q   Nov-07-09 11:04 PM   #9 
  - This wasn't Obama in the Senate, pushing hard to get TARP passed?  brentspeak   Nov-07-09 11:09 PM   #20 
     - Obama would never break a campaign promise.  ej510   Nov-07-09 11:13 PM   #27 
  - wrong on the facts and wrong on the logic but you get points for consistency  grantcart   Nov-07-09 11:04 PM   #10 
  - yeah, that's why they spent so much $ lobbying against it. nt  cry baby   Nov-07-09 11:06 PM   #16 
  - You seem to forget that Tarp was started and advocated for by Bush  Kdillard   Nov-07-09 11:06 PM   #17 
  - Who is the person in this video?  brentspeak   Nov-07-09 11:11 PM   #24 
     - Le sigh you seem to have a problem with Democrats because  Kdillard   Nov-07-09 11:19 PM   #32 
     - Ok, so now we've established that really was Obama in the video  brentspeak   Nov-07-09 11:25 PM   #35 
        - Yes he voted for it as a Senator as did many others otherwise it would not have passed.  Kdillard   Nov-07-09 11:32 PM   #41 
           - I like Democrats. More specifically, real Democrats  brentspeak   Nov-07-09 11:41 PM   #43 
              - Brentspeak I am afraid you are going to spend the next 4 or 8 years  Kdillard   Nov-08-09 12:49 AM   #55 
              - like johnny hedge fund eh?  dionysus   Nov-08-09 06:22 PM   #81 
     - delete.  Kdillard   Nov-07-09 11:19 PM   #33 
  - They really appreciate the repeal of their anti-trust exemption  andym   Nov-07-09 11:07 PM   #18 
  - GO PISS IN YOUR SOUP ! I am SICK of your STUPID naysaying pissing and moaning !  RBInMaine   Nov-07-09 11:07 PM   #19 
  - +1000. It's getting REALLY old  ecstatic   Nov-07-09 11:11 PM   #22 
  - And there are a lot of us that are sick of your shit too!  earth mom   Nov-08-09 02:19 AM   #59 
     - you know what? i for one am glad obama's presidency makes you miserable. it's nectar to my soul.  dionysus   Nov-08-09 06:16 PM   #78 
        - Your posts are nectar to mine. lol  msallied   Nov-08-09 06:26 PM   #84 
        - why, thank you!  dionysus   Nov-08-09 06:29 PM   #86 
        - +1  suzie   Nov-10-09 06:53 PM   #115 
        - Bobby Kennedy wouldn't be celebrating last night's vote  Ken Burch   Nov-08-09 06:27 PM   #85 
           - he would considering the congress we have.  dionysus   Nov-08-09 06:30 PM   #87 
  - Yeah, and people like me and others here can just sit around and twiddle our thumbs some more  Jennicut   Nov-07-09 11:10 PM   #21 
  - he doesn't give a flying fuck about health care. this is his bitter personal mission against obama.  dionysus   Nov-08-09 06:18 PM   #79 
  - How about some cheese to go with your shitty whine ?  RBInMaine   Nov-07-09 11:11 PM   #23 
  - You are so WRONG! You are so WRONG!  ind_thinker2   Nov-07-09 11:12 PM   # 
  - I'd be covered on the PO. So I'd say as one of the people...victory for me with my taxes. n/t  vaberella   Nov-07-09 11:12 PM   #25 
  - But vabrella, you are being selfish when we could have perfection....in 15 years.  Jennicut   Nov-07-09 11:18 PM   #31 
     - That's if they'd be given that chance to "start over."  vaberella   Nov-07-09 11:29 PM   #38 
        - They wouldn't. And you would be out of luck.  Jennicut   Nov-07-09 11:32 PM   #40 
  - Oh fuck this shit.  liberalmuse   Nov-07-09 11:13 PM   #26 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-07-09 11:14 PM   #29 
  - What's affordable to you?  ej510   Nov-07-09 11:30 PM   #39 
  - lol your subject line...  NYC_SKP   Nov-07-09 11:43 PM   #44 
  - Yea that whole having to pay out 85% o their intake to customers, losing anti-trust exemptions...  phleshdef   Nov-07-09 11:14 PM   #28 
  - There is already a loophole for that 85% requirement. n/t  ipaint   Nov-07-09 11:47 PM   #47 
  - Blah blah blah blah blahhhhhhh...  CakeGrrl   Nov-07-09 11:20 PM   #34 
  - "Nah, nah, nah! I can't hear you!!!!"  brentspeak   Nov-07-09 11:26 PM   #36 
     - Not surprising. You're in your own world. n/t  CakeGrrl   Nov-07-09 11:28 PM   #37 
  - The devil is in the details  IndianaGreen   Nov-07-09 11:39 PM   #42 
  - Mitt Romney couldn't have written a better bill himself.  ej510   Nov-07-09 11:44 PM   #45 
  - Wealth transferred from millionaires to insurance companies to cover 36m people.  Scarsdale Vibe   Nov-07-09 11:46 PM   #46 
  - Being forced ro by insurance from private corporations  ej510   Nov-07-09 11:51 PM   #49 
     - Actually, didn't Hillary and Edwards both support mandates in the primary?  Jennicut   Nov-08-09 12:06 AM   #53 
        - why yes, of course they did.  dionysus   Nov-08-09 06:23 PM   #82 
           - SHHH! We arent suposed to remember that.  Egnever   Nov-09-09 12:54 AM   #94 
  - brentspite  Aramchek   Nov-07-09 11:48 PM   #48 
  - Which is why they opposed it  CreekDog   Nov-07-09 11:53 PM   #50 
  - no it was their secret plan to mass-oppose a bill they really like  CTLawGuy   Nov-09-09 06:33 AM   #103 
  - The insurance companies fought to neuter the public option.  ipaint   Nov-07-09 11:56 PM   #51 
  - Don't that get you down, because it is a great day for  ej510   Nov-08-09 12:05 AM   #52 
     - oh, thanks, I forgot to be excited...  joeycola   Nov-08-09 03:52 AM   #63 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-08-09 12:47 AM   #54 
  - Banks and Insurance companies = Same Same.  earth mom   Nov-08-09 02:17 AM   #58 
  - CORRECT  Skittles   Nov-08-09 03:55 AM   #64 
  - bulshit, bullshit and more bullshit.  lonestarnot   Nov-08-09 04:02 AM   #65 
  - You're still here?  lamp_shade   Nov-08-09 05:30 AM   #66 
  - Then why didn't every Rethuglican vote for it?  treestar   Nov-08-09 03:35 PM   #71 
  - Because defeating Obama is a higher priority here  Truth2Tell   Nov-09-09 12:47 AM   #93 
  - Substantiate your 2% claim or STFU. nt  Bonobo   Nov-08-09 03:46 PM   #73 
  - brent, really sorry john edwards was such a dismal failure that you feel the need to do this.  dionysus   Nov-08-09 06:15 PM   #77 
  - Couldn't agree more.  Waiting For Everyman   Nov-08-09 08:43 PM   #91 
  - available to 2%?  CTLawGuy   Nov-09-09 06:30 AM   #102 
 

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