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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 10:16 PM
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41.  My goodness. the same argument that was used before this passed.
Edited on Sat Nov-07-09 10:17 PM by saracat
The Stupack Amendment wouldn't pass, I was told.The time to protest is NOW. Do you understand the final Bill is too late/ You don't think Obama is going to veto this if it is in the final Bill do you? That is what this is about. He can't veto HCR.
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  - So where is our president speaking out on the egregious Stupak Amendment? Isn't he a husband saracat  Nov-07-09 09:30 PM   #0 
  - Is he a husband and a father? I don't know.  Drunken Irishman   Nov-07-09 09:31 PM   #1 
  - man I just learned to do smilies again --  emulatorloo   Nov-07-09 09:34 PM   #6 
  - You're picking on the prez? I'm SHOCKED! nt  babylonsister   Nov-07-09 09:32 PM   #2 
  - really? I notice you don't answer? Why didn't or doesn't he take a stand on this?  saracat   Nov-07-09 09:34 PM   #4 
     - Maybe getting a health care bill passed for all Americans is more  babylonsister   Nov-07-09 09:39 PM   #12 
        - For ALL americans? Are you kidding. This bill doesn't cover ALL Americans and was never intended to  saracat   Nov-07-09 09:44 PM   #19 
           - Will it make many Americans' lives better? Why are you so negative?  babylonsister   Nov-07-09 09:54 PM   #32 
              - I don't care about the Prez either way. He is likely a nice guy.I hate the Bill.  saracat   Nov-07-09 10:01 PM   #37 
                 - If you spend more time in the dungeon  Hutzpa   Nov-08-09 12:34 AM   #53 
  - Is he in the Congress? I thought he gave up that job...commenting on  Jennicut   Nov-07-09 09:33 PM   #3 
  - stop making sense.  emulatorloo   Nov-07-09 09:36 PM   #7 
  - He could speak out opposing it. Any citizen can, Crap, he went to congress  saracat   Nov-07-09 09:37 PM   #8 
     - I doubt he wanted to derail the bill  karynnj   Nov-07-09 09:43 PM   #16 
     - A President can do many things, but Congress gets to vote on amendments.  Jennicut   Nov-07-09 09:43 PM   #17 
     - Which would not change a single vote, and WOULD make Obama look poweless.  TheWraith   Nov-07-09 09:44 PM   #20 
        - He would look like he "tried" and was principled, which would be better than "looking"  saracat   Nov-07-09 10:05 PM   #39 
           - Looking like he tried...  TheWraith   Nov-08-09 12:53 AM   #56 
  - All that matters is getting a bill passed.  Autumn   Nov-07-09 09:34 PM   #5 
  - Democrats voting against choice and banning abortion in private insurance. We should be ashamed.  saracat   Nov-07-09 09:39 PM   #10 
  - they didn't ban abortion in private insurance. there is just no subsidy for it.  Aramchek   Nov-07-09 09:43 PM   #18 
  - and it is already restricted in many states to begin with.  Jennicut   Nov-07-09 09:45 PM   #22 
  - They have banned abortions in any private insurance in the exchange.  saracat   Nov-07-09 09:46 PM   #24 
  - you just want a reason to be pissed.  Aramchek   Nov-07-09 09:54 PM   #33 
  - Oh and this is just "meaningless".  saracat   Nov-07-09 10:00 PM   #36 
     - the bill has passed, and it will save lives. is that meaningless??  Aramchek   Nov-07-09 10:47 PM   #47 
        - not meaningless but few if any more lives will be saved because it doesn't cover many people.  saracat   Nov-08-09 12:20 AM   #49 
  - delete - wrong place  polichick   Nov-08-09 06:50 AM   #64 
  - Then it is effectively banned for those women. Simple as that.  joeycola   Nov-08-09 03:28 AM   #61 
  - No saracat, We should NOT be ashamed.  Autumn   Nov-07-09 09:45 PM   #21 
     - That is true Autumn. They should be ashamed. I am ashamed of them.  saracat   Nov-07-09 09:47 PM   #25 
  - Get the bill passed, cut the dumbass amendments before the final bill  emulatorloo   Nov-07-09 09:39 PM   #11 
     - Exactly. But that's too complex.  babylonsister   Nov-07-09 09:41 PM   #13 
     - Don't take the air out of sara's "righteous anger". I mean, what would she do..  Tarheel_Dem   Nov-07-09 09:47 PM   #26 
     - So , this is no big deal is it? not to you? Fine.I get that.  saracat   Nov-07-09 09:53 PM   #31 
        - If only we'd elected John Edwards...that paragon of virtue. Do you...  Tarheel_Dem   Nov-08-09 09:08 PM   #78 
     - But they won't cut it from the final Bill . Even the ProChoice Caucus admits that.  saracat   Nov-07-09 09:50 PM   #29 
  - Oh FFS...  CakeGrrl   Nov-07-09 09:38 PM   #9 
  - So this is a minor deal to you?I guess you agree this isn't of sufficient import to comment.  saracat   Nov-07-09 09:42 PM   #14 
     - Get the bill passed, cut the dumbass amendments before the final bill  emulatorloo   Nov-07-09 09:47 PM   #28 
     - What tone is there to set after the amendment PASSED?  CakeGrrl   Nov-07-09 10:02 PM   #38 
        - My goodness. the same argument that was used before this passed.  saracat   Nov-07-09 10:16 PM   #41 
           - He isn't going to do the big stuff in front of the cameras, which is why  CakeGrrl   Nov-07-09 10:31 PM   #44 
              - Do you think he was actually against Stupak/ And if he is, and it is included in the final bill what  saracat   Nov-08-09 12:22 AM   #50 
                 - Yes  CakeGrrl   Nov-08-09 12:40 AM   #55 
                    - Absolutely I would. I have credited the President before. I just read on open left that  saracat   Nov-08-09 01:25 AM   #58 
  - Doesn't matter to him.. His daughters will be just fine.. They will never have to worry  glowing   Nov-07-09 09:42 PM   #15 
  - Yup  bigwillq   Nov-07-09 09:55 PM   #34 
     - Well then let's stop electing POLITICIANS to run the country.  CakeGrrl   Nov-07-09 10:40 PM   #45 
  - Obviously this is all Obama's fault!!!11!!1!! n/t  PolNewf   Nov-07-09 09:46 PM   #23 
  - You do understand that this just passed right and it is late at night on a Saturday.  Kdillard   Nov-07-09 09:47 PM   #27 
  - This is an abomination and I am asking why the preside4nt doesn't speak out. After the Bill is final  saracat   Nov-07-09 09:51 PM   #30 
     - The bill is FAR from final!  jenmito   Nov-07-09 09:56 PM   #35 
        - I get that. Which is why the time to speak out is NOW  saracat   Nov-07-09 10:07 PM   #40 
  - John Edwards is a husband  BeyondGeography   Nov-07-09 10:24 PM   #42 
  - Silly Comment.What has that to do with the President speaking out about Stupak?  saracat   Nov-07-09 10:30 PM   #43 
     - Yes they now do.  ipaint   Nov-07-09 10:43 PM   #46 
        - Apparently so. And there is really something wrong here as none of our AZ Dems in red districts who  saracat   Nov-08-09 12:05 AM   #48 
  - Oh brother.  Blue-Jay   Nov-08-09 12:28 AM   #51 
  - Presidents usually refrain from commenting on bills this early in the process.  stevenleser   Nov-08-09 12:29 AM   #52 
  - I would answer but you asked a rhetorical question  CreekDog   Nov-08-09 12:39 AM   #54 
  - Wanna play Hyperbowl?  blogslut   Nov-08-09 01:22 AM   #57 
  - Politics is a dirty business  Hippo_Tron   Nov-08-09 02:33 AM   #59 
  - Sitting on the fence as usual!!  joeycola   Nov-08-09 03:27 AM   #60 
  - I'm pretty sure he was on board and encouraged this action  freddie mertz   Nov-08-09 06:22 AM   #62 
  - "Makes you nostalgic for Clinton at his worst." You mean the guy who passed DOMA, DADT, NAFTA...  ClarkUSA   Nov-08-09 06:38 AM   #63 
     - Yes, sadly, I do.  freddie mertz   Nov-08-09 09:41 AM   #67 
        - It is sad and it's also Obama hating bullshit.  ClarkUSA   Nov-08-09 09:53 AM   #68 
           - I don't hate Obama, but you already know that.  freddie mertz   Nov-08-09 11:11 AM   #70 
              - lol! Sure you don't. FYI, I've been watching you since you arrived here.  ClarkUSA   Nov-08-09 11:37 AM   #71 
                 - I can tell that you crave an echo-chamber my friend...  freddie mertz   Nov-08-09 12:35 PM   #72 
  - Is Viagra still covered?? nt  polichick   Nov-08-09 06:51 AM   #65 
  - You'll hype up any OP in order to trash all things Obama because of your ongoing bitterness.  ClarkUSA   Nov-08-09 06:52 AM   #66 
  - What does being a husband/father have to do with taxpayers paying for ELECTIVE  Phx_Dem   Nov-08-09 09:57 AM   #69 
  - actually no it doesn't  dsc   Nov-08-09 12:40 PM   #73 
  - Actually, it does.  Phx_Dem   Nov-08-09 01:18 PM   #75 
     - Unlike you I am relying on the actual text not a reporter  dsc   Nov-08-09 02:04 PM   #76 
  - I am so sick of alleged liberals classifying an often tragically necessary women's  saracat   Nov-08-09 02:06 PM   #77 
  - I am sure Obama cares for abortion rights as much as he cares about LGBT rights  IndianaGreen   Nov-08-09 12:43 PM   #74 

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