| 42. Now that I can agree with a lttle bit. |
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I watched the show on Obama's rise to the Presidency yesterday and his speeches were amazing. I'd like to see a little more of that fire from him now. That being said I really do think he's doing all he can and the strain of the job may not allow for such passion. Maybe a little restraint is a good thing right now. I just don't know.
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| -"Obama could have been a great, popular and heroic president" |
Better Believe It |
Nov-06-09 11:07 AM |
#0 |
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Can we see what the rest of his Presidency offers FIRST? |
liberal N proud |
Nov-06-09 11:09 AM |
#1 |
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I'll give you a preview |
izquierdista |
Nov-06-09 11:15 AM |
#13 |
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+1 |
phantom power |
Nov-06-09 11:24 AM |
#24 |
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-2 |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-06-09 11:32 AM |
#34 |
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en guarde -- +3 ! |
phantom power |
Nov-06-09 11:33 AM |
#37 |
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+ 1 Magic Negro...... |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-06-09 11:37 AM |
#43 |
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a/0 Point, set, match. Your move... |
DRoseDARs |
Nov-07-09 12:53 AM |
#183 |
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The best indicator of future performance is past performance. |
tblue |
Nov-06-09 11:36 AM |
#40 |
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No "boldness" or "fight"? He's a black man who is President of the United States, |
NYCGirl |
Nov-06-09 11:40 AM |
#47 |
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Because he's black, we should lower expectations??? He gets a pass??? |
tblue |
Nov-06-09 12:15 PM |
#70 |
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I'm talking about achieving amazingly DIFFICULT THINGS through boldness |
NYCGirl |
Nov-06-09 12:19 PM |
#71 |
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Of course it was. I just want him to fight for US as hard as he fought to get elected. |
tblue |
Nov-06-09 12:22 PM |
#76 |
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Campaigning and governing are two different things. The GOP is great at |
NYCGirl |
Nov-06-09 12:23 PM |
#79 |
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+1 and YES, well said, and TRUE |
Dreamer Tatum |
Nov-06-09 02:51 PM |
#147 |
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Do you expect anything of anyone else, or do you pin your hopes |
treestar |
Nov-07-09 11:46 AM |
#191 |
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I think for him, an act of boldness or several acts of boldness of the kind |
Doremus |
Nov-06-09 04:40 PM |
#171 |
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Your avatar is my favorite on DU. |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Nov-06-09 11:43 AM |
#51 |
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Thank you! He makes me smile every time I look at him. |
tblue |
Nov-06-09 12:27 PM |
#82 |
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I voted for a president not a martyr. You don't need a different |
Fire1 |
Nov-06-09 11:58 AM |
#55 |
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Could be. |
tblue |
Nov-06-09 12:11 PM |
#65 |
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You know shit. |
Cha |
Nov-06-09 12:11 PM |
#66 |
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And I see a lot of it |
izquierdista |
Nov-06-09 12:41 PM |
#93 |
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It must be disconcerting for you and your ilks |
Hutzpa |
Nov-06-09 12:43 PM |
#96 |
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Less disconcerting than having Dimbulb Dubya in |
izquierdista |
Nov-06-09 12:55 PM |
#112 |
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Maybe McCain/Palin would have shut down Goldman Sachs, |
Hutzpa |
Nov-06-09 01:14 PM |
#122 |
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Blinded |
izquierdista |
Nov-06-09 01:19 PM |
#123 |
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Resorting to vulgarity, I see.... |
Hutzpa |
Nov-06-09 01:51 PM |
#132 |
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LOL |
treestar |
Nov-07-09 11:42 AM |
#189 |
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+2 |
GCP |
Nov-06-09 03:02 PM |
#155 |
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Why wait? |
atreides1 |
Nov-06-09 11:19 AM |
#19 |
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We're keeping our powder dry for when we really need it. |
Better Believe It |
Nov-06-09 11:32 AM |
#35 |
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Well, you will just have to wait..... |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-06-09 11:35 AM |
#39 |
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The destructive policies put in place by Reagan/Bush1 AND Clinton befofre W |
Armstead |
Nov-06-09 12:04 PM |
#62 |
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Maybe you would like more of the bu$h years? |
liberal N proud |
Nov-06-09 12:22 PM |
#77 |
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You are who Green was talking about when he said, |
ej510 |
Nov-06-09 12:28 PM |
#84 |
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And those who complain about Obama will be responsible for the next |
liberal N proud |
Nov-06-09 12:38 PM |
#88 |
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Obama and the corporacrats will be responsible for that. |
ej510 |
Nov-06-09 12:53 PM |
#109 |
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"Centrists" never take personal responsibility for their constant failures. |
Dr Fate |
Nov-07-09 11:40 AM |
#186 |
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True in the sense that- Liberals always get blamed for centrist failures. |
Dr Fate |
Nov-07-09 11:38 AM |
#185 |
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To hell with a "bank." The stimulus should have been much |
Fire1 |
Nov-06-09 12:24 PM |
#80 |
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The stimulus would have been much larger and targeted people if |
liberal N proud |
Nov-06-09 12:39 PM |
#91 |
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I totally agree. They bitched about what we DID get. n/t |
Fire1 |
Nov-06-09 12:55 PM |
#113 |
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He didn't capitalize on his honeymoon period when the most daring |
Peregrine Took |
Nov-06-09 11:42 AM |
#50 |
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I think he saw what Clinton did with DADT and decided to proceed with extreme caution. |
tblue |
Nov-06-09 12:26 PM |
#81 |
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Yeah, but look at the ones who |
Cha |
Nov-06-09 12:20 PM |
#73 |
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"The ones who always want what they can't have so they bring their whining hate" +10 |
dionysus |
Nov-06-09 12:48 PM |
#102 |
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No, i will not read the rest of this crap |
impik |
Nov-06-09 12:52 PM |
#107 |
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Those four years went by so fast, I didn't even realize they happened-- |
TwilightGardener |
Nov-06-09 11:09 AM |
#2 |
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Am I in Freeperville? nt |
jezebel |
Nov-06-09 11:09 AM |
#3 |
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Yes, you either love everything Obama does or you're a Freeper. |
tblue |
Nov-06-09 12:19 PM |
#72 |
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ok, an adult would realize the OP is a clown who posts 3+ smear pieces a day |
dionysus |
Nov-06-09 12:43 PM |
#95 |
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Wiser to stop demonizing the messenger and READ the article. nt |
polichick |
Nov-06-09 12:46 PM |
#101 |
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i read that pile of steaming shit. you can side with one of the most obvious trolls DU has ever had |
dionysus |
Nov-06-09 12:55 PM |
#114 |
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I don't pay attention to the poster, but the post. I agree with the points made... |
polichick |
Nov-06-09 12:56 PM |
#115 |
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If it were up to me, anyone on DU who ever again uses the word "freeper" on |
salguine |
Nov-06-09 01:49 PM |
#131 |
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If I had super powers... |
BklnDem75 |
Nov-07-09 12:07 AM |
#181 |
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My goodness, ... |
uponit7771 |
Nov-06-09 11:09 AM |
#4 |
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"masterful Republican administrations" ? |
Gidney N Cloyd |
Nov-06-09 11:11 AM |
#5 |
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Read the complete article so that you can understand the writers points. |
Better Believe It |
Nov-06-09 11:18 AM |
#17 |
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Wow, his term's over already? |
Richardo |
Nov-06-09 11:12 AM |
#6 |
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Obama has been weak, the repukes and corporacrats have punked him at |
ej510 |
Nov-06-09 11:12 AM |
#7 |
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I think that has happened a couple of times. But I think he has a learning curve. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Nov-06-09 11:25 AM |
#26 |
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ROFL you see what you want to see, i'll tell you that. |
dionysus |
Nov-06-09 12:49 PM |
#103 |
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once again you choose not to follow posting rules just to lash out at Obama |
Aramchek |
Nov-06-09 11:12 AM |
#8 |
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I know some here believe being critical of the President is hating |
ej510 |
Nov-06-09 11:22 AM |
#23 |
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BS. the OP has it out for Obama regardless of what he does |
Aramchek |
Nov-06-09 11:33 AM |
#36 |
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+1 |
azmouse |
Nov-06-09 11:38 AM |
#44 |
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His postings are meant to hold Obama accountable. |
ej510 |
Nov-06-09 11:41 AM |
#49 |
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ridiculous! Obama doesn't read DU. The posts are flames for those who support Obama here |
Aramchek |
Nov-06-09 11:45 AM |
#52 |
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David Michael Green's credibility as a leftist (a progressive) are not in question here. |
Laelth |
Nov-06-09 12:01 PM |
#57 |
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Bullshit!!! |
Baltoman991 |
Nov-06-09 12:02 PM |
#59 |
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i'll celebrate when he gets the well earned 'stone |
dionysus |
Nov-06-09 12:39 PM |
#90 |
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+1 |
Egnever |
Nov-07-09 01:56 PM |
#195 |
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ROFL |
dionysus |
Nov-06-09 12:44 PM |
#97 |
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bullshit. and you're one of the ones who constantly say he sucks. |
dionysus |
Nov-06-09 12:45 PM |
#100 |
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how can he "half-ass" legislation written by the legislative branch? apparently you have no inkling |
dionysus |
Nov-06-09 12:50 PM |
#104 |
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waaaaaah! |
azmouse |
Nov-06-09 11:12 AM |
#9 |
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LOL! |
TwilightGardener |
Nov-06-09 11:16 AM |
#16 |
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Hahahahahahaha |
redqueen |
Nov-06-09 11:27 AM |
#29 |
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+1 |
Lord Helmet |
Nov-06-09 11:28 AM |
#31 |
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Oh geez.. out with the black crepe again.. |
Peacetrain |
Nov-06-09 11:13 AM |
#10 |
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To the first 4 posters. Please read the article before you comment on it. |
Better Believe It |
Nov-06-09 11:13 AM |
#11 |
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no one buys your transparent act. jesus christ, you really think you fool anyone here? |
dionysus |
Nov-06-09 12:51 PM |
#106 |
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Scary true and surprisingly hilarious: WTFU Obama and push a robust Public Option! |
ShortnFiery |
Nov-06-09 11:14 AM |
#12 |
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Yeah, that's why a recent poll showed 40% think he's "too liberal" |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-06-09 11:15 AM |
#14 |
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That's because, as the writer pointed out, Obama has allowed himself to be defined by Republicans! |
Better Believe It |
Nov-06-09 11:21 AM |
#21 |
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The final 3 paragraphs are good warning. |
phantom power |
Nov-06-09 11:26 AM |
#27 |
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"successful American presidents were the ones who brought a vision to the table, and fought for it" |
phantom power |
Nov-06-09 11:15 AM |
#15 |
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Read the whole article and this Green is an idiot |
livetohike |
Nov-06-09 11:18 AM |
#18 |
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It's a warning ... |
earthside |
Nov-06-09 11:27 AM |
#30 |
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So you think all of us DU'ers were a bunch of idiots in 2001? |
Better Believe It |
Nov-06-09 11:29 AM |
#32 |
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"So those who called George W. Bush names early in his Presidency are also idiots according to you." |
redqueen |
Nov-06-09 11:37 AM |
#41 |
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what was your username in 2001? did it get tombstoned?? |
Aramchek |
Nov-06-09 11:48 AM |
#53 |
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+1 Good point. n/t |
Laelth |
Nov-06-09 12:02 PM |
#58 |
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Hahahahaha... |
redqueen |
Nov-06-09 12:22 PM |
#78 |
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Glad you like the sig. line. |
Laelth |
Nov-06-09 12:34 PM |
#85 |
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I don't. |
redqueen |
Nov-06-09 12:39 PM |
#89 |
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I am not your enemy, redqueen. |
Laelth |
Nov-06-09 12:45 PM |
#99 |
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I don't consider people I disagree with to be 'enemies'. |
redqueen |
Nov-06-09 12:51 PM |
#105 |
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YES YOU DO! |
Hutzpa |
Nov-06-09 02:58 PM |
#152 |
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LOL... no I don't! |
redqueen |
Nov-06-09 03:12 PM |
#157 |
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a truce... |
Hutzpa |
Nov-06-09 03:21 PM |
#159 |
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You offer a glitter thingy as a truce? |
redqueen |
Nov-06-09 03:29 PM |
#163 |
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ok there you go |
Hutzpa |
Nov-06-09 03:33 PM |
#164 |
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I like that second one... |
redqueen |
Nov-06-09 03:43 PM |
#167 |
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wooooooopeeee |
Hutzpa |
Nov-06-09 04:40 PM |
#170 |
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well, you sure are now, so you probably were then. |
dionysus |
Nov-06-09 12:41 PM |
#92 |
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"In 2010 and again in 2012, they will be smashed by angry voters demanding that something be done" |
phantom power |
Nov-06-09 11:20 AM |
#20 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-06-09 11:22 AM |
#22 |
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... |
redqueen |
Nov-06-09 11:38 AM |
#45 |
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I don't buy into this. Not so early. FDR was the Master and not a fair standard. |
Captain Hilts |
Nov-06-09 11:25 AM |
#25 |
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I miss the passion he had when he was the |
Autumn |
Nov-06-09 11:26 AM |
#28 |
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Now that I can agree with a lttle bit. |
azmouse |
Nov-06-09 11:37 AM |
#42 |
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That show was amazing. |
Autumn |
Nov-06-09 11:40 AM |
#48 |
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His health care speech in congress was |
impik |
Nov-06-09 05:46 PM |
#176 |
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Campaigning is not the same as governing. |
Beacool |
Nov-06-09 11:53 AM |
#54 |
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Right, there is a big difference, |
Autumn |
Nov-06-09 12:00 PM |
#56 |
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Yes, she would have and she should have!! |
Beacool |
Nov-06-09 12:04 PM |
#61 |
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Simple |
Hutzpa |
Nov-06-09 01:56 PM |
#134 |
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Thanks for your concern, |
Autumn |
Nov-06-09 02:15 PM |
#139 |
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You may not |
Hutzpa |
Nov-06-09 02:26 PM |
#141 |
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What!! You mean to tell me that there are people |
Autumn |
Nov-06-09 02:36 PM |
#143 |
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C'mon sweetheart |
Hutzpa |
Nov-06-09 02:51 PM |
#148 |
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You know sweetheart , I have NEVER seen anyone |
Autumn |
Nov-06-09 03:01 PM |
#154 |
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You probably haven't |
Hutzpa |
Nov-06-09 03:08 PM |
#156 |
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I'm doing a DU site search, but haven't found |
Autumn |
Nov-06-09 03:34 PM |
#165 |
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Keep looking |
Hutzpa |
Nov-06-09 03:38 PM |
#166 |
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No, but with that phrase your name comes up |
Autumn |
Nov-06-09 03:44 PM |
#168 |
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blah... blah... blah... |
Hutzpa |
Nov-06-09 04:42 PM |
#172 |
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Agree 99%. He could grow into those shoes, but he'd better hurry. |
tblue |
Nov-06-09 11:31 AM |
#33 |
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. |
Blue-Jay |
Nov-06-09 11:35 AM |
#38 |
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WHAT DID YOU DO TO KERRY'S HEAD?!? |
AspenRose |
Nov-06-09 04:05 PM |
#169 |
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"we have instead Mr. Rogers’ pet gerbil." |
Beacool |
Nov-06-09 11:38 AM |
#46 |
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That was funny, |
Autumn |
Nov-06-09 12:03 PM |
#60 |
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I liked him too and also Shari Lewis. |
Beacool |
Nov-06-09 12:08 PM |
#64 |
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My God yes , I had |
Autumn |
Nov-06-09 12:13 PM |
#68 |
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Kinda mean, but it did make me smile. I sure got the point. nt |
polichick |
Nov-06-09 12:53 PM |
#110 |
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Me too!!! |
Beacool |
Nov-06-09 01:53 PM |
#133 |
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Of course YOU'D find the humor in it |
CakeGrrl |
Nov-06-09 06:19 PM |
#177 |
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+1 David Michael Green is right, as usual. |
Laelth |
Nov-06-09 12:06 PM |
#63 |
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Another stupid fail push article from |
Cha |
Nov-06-09 12:12 PM |
#67 |
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Counterpunch is about as tiresome as they come. I am so sick of the overheated rhetoric |
emulatorloo |
Nov-06-09 12:14 PM |
#69 |
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What is tiresome is the refusal to acknowledge the basic truths...Therefore.... |
Armstead |
Nov-06-09 12:28 PM |
#83 |
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Hyperbole doesn't help anybody's argument, whether it be Counterpunch or Michelle Malkin |
emulatorloo |
Nov-06-09 12:58 PM |
#117 |
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This article is hyperbolie...But "rational" attempts at discussion get ignored |
Armstead |
Nov-06-09 02:54 PM |
#150 |
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the article basically calls obama a clueless fool, a dismal failure. if this is your "basic truth", |
dionysus |
Nov-06-09 12:59 PM |
#118 |
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It is basically the same things that Limbaugh and his ilk say. |
emulatorloo |
Nov-06-09 01:04 PM |
#120 |
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No it is saying he has potential for greatness, but is squandering it |
Armstead |
Nov-06-09 02:55 PM |
#151 |
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counterpunch lost me with an article on how terrible al gore is. they're a bunch of fools. |
dionysus |
Nov-06-09 12:58 PM |
#116 |
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SO FAR |
branders seine |
Nov-06-09 12:20 PM |
#74 |
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I think that way too - "SO FAR." There's time to turn it around if he wants to. nt |
polichick |
Nov-06-09 01:14 PM |
#121 |
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Is what he "wants" even relevant the way things actually work. |
branders seine |
Nov-07-09 11:32 AM |
#184 |
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REC I share the disappointment -- but he still has time. Cockeyed optimist. /nt |
philly_bob |
Nov-06-09 12:22 PM |
#75 |
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kick |
xchrom |
Nov-06-09 12:36 PM |
#86 |
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you never fail to sink to new flamebait lows. |
dionysus |
Nov-06-09 12:38 PM |
#87 |
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It's allowed so why would he stop? My 6 yr old nephew knows how |
firedupdem |
Nov-06-09 12:54 PM |
#111 |
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This is exactly how I see it and I hope and pray that the president soon understands... |
polichick |
Nov-06-09 12:42 PM |
#94 |
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What this guy doesn't get is that Obama isn't interested in being like those before him... |
SKKY |
Nov-06-09 12:45 PM |
#98 |
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There is no bipartisanship, only Dems caving to Republicans. nt |
polichick |
Nov-06-09 12:52 PM |
#108 |
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THANK YOU! |
ej510 |
Nov-06-09 01:01 PM |
#119 |
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Well, what is your definition of bipartisanship then? |
SKKY |
Nov-06-09 01:20 PM |
#124 |
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The point is, ONLY the Dems are compromising. Republicans are standing fast... |
polichick |
Nov-06-09 01:24 PM |
#125 |
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No, we are watering down our bills for other Dems. |
Jennicut |
Nov-06-09 01:35 PM |
#127 |
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We don't need to water them down for Dems - polls show people in... |
polichick |
Nov-06-09 01:44 PM |
#129 |
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You think they care about the people in their districts/states? Joe Lieberman cares about me? |
Jennicut |
Nov-06-09 01:48 PM |
#130 |
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Like I said, those whoring for the industry should be called out by ALL of our leaders. nt |
polichick |
Nov-06-09 02:08 PM |
#138 |
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I was going to make the point that about the blue dogs and moderates.. |
SKKY |
Nov-06-09 03:00 PM |
#153 |
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I addressed that in #129 |
polichick |
Nov-06-09 03:14 PM |
#158 |
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Compromising with repukes even though they vote against every bill! |
ej510 |
Nov-06-09 02:05 PM |
#137 |
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I heartily recommend your |
Autumn |
Nov-06-09 03:21 PM |
#160 |
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"This guy is fast wearing out his welcome" |
Jennicut |
Nov-06-09 01:28 PM |
#126 |
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left wing tea baggers. and you wonder why republicans can win elections. |
dionysus |
Nov-06-09 01:35 PM |
#128 |
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What I really love is that he uses Lincoln as an example of a decisive president |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Nov-06-09 01:59 PM |
#135 |
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Well yeah, Lincoln fought to keep the Union together! |
Jennicut |
Nov-06-09 02:27 PM |
#142 |
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Green is verbose, as usual |
depakid |
Nov-06-09 01:59 PM |
#136 |
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Counterpunch is against Dems. The writer of the article calls Obama derogatory names |
jenmito |
Nov-06-09 02:25 PM |
#140 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-06-09 02:36 PM |
#144 |
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Really? Who would YOU have liked to see in the WH? |
jenmito |
Nov-06-09 02:48 PM |
#146 |
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This is an attempt to tie Obama with Carter |
Hutzpa |
Nov-06-09 02:45 PM |
#145 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Nov-06-09 02:52 PM |
#149 |
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What's wrong with being tied to Carter? |
marshall |
Nov-06-09 03:23 PM |
#161 |
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Clinton doesn't think so. |
redqueen |
Nov-06-09 03:27 PM |
#162 |
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That chumminess makes me like Clinton much less... |
polichick |
Nov-06-09 05:27 PM |
#175 |
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That's the truth! nt |
polichick |
Nov-06-09 05:26 PM |
#174 |
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Blah, Blah, Blah. |
impik |
Nov-06-09 05:05 PM |
#173 |
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I suggest that the author file his name to run for President. Until then he can kiss my ass. |
ncteechur |
Nov-06-09 06:22 PM |
#178 |
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Yawn. Bash. Yawn. Fail. n/t |
CakeGrrl |
Nov-06-09 06:23 PM |
#179 |
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Paul Krugman: President Obama's actual actions on the economy were cautious rather than bold |
Better Believe It |
Nov-06-09 10:47 PM |
#180 |
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More betrayal! More crap articles! It must be |
BklnDem75 |
Nov-07-09 12:22 AM |
#182 |
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David Michael Green could have been a great President |
treestar |
Nov-07-09 11:40 AM |
#187 |
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Perhaps President Obama should have hired him rather than Wall Street servants or |
Better Believe It |
Nov-07-09 01:39 PM |
#193 |
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he has not been a leader, except while ensuring that |
branders seine |
Nov-07-09 11:42 AM |
#188 |
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Welcome to DU... |
YvonneCa |
Nov-07-09 02:53 PM |
#196 |
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Better Believe it could have been a great popular and heroic poster |
treestar |
Nov-07-09 11:43 AM |
#190 |
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More Daily Hate because Obama isn't a Socialist. |
Ikonoklast |
Nov-07-09 11:50 AM |
#192 |
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SSDD |
BlueIdaho |
Nov-07-09 01:50 PM |
#194 |
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And how do you think this anti-womens rights alleged healthcare bill will help President Obama? |
Better Believe It |
Nov-08-09 08:59 AM |
#197 |