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Sun Nov-01-09 10:04 PM
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| 11. When he saw the results of the horrible deal cooked up on health care he threw in the towel. |
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That's what appears to have happened.
He tried to stop the deal and did his best to organized opposition to a weak public option designed to fail. Is Reich to be condemed for that effort because he didn't succeed?
Reich just couldn't get very far when so many self-proclaimed liberals abandoned the fight for a meaningful and strong public option.
Some DU'ers, a small minority, don't even care if a bill is passed without any kind of public option .... they'll settle for anything the insurance companies and big Pharma cook up!
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| -Robert Reich: Getting Americans Back to Work is More Urgent Than Healthcare Reform |
Better Believe It |
Nov-01-09 09:42 PM |
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Easy for him to say, he's got money, a job, and all the health care one could need. |
NYC_SKP |
Nov-01-09 09:45 PM |
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And how will you live and what kind of medical care do you think you'll get without a job? |
Better Believe It |
Nov-01-09 09:55 PM |
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I'm sensing concern all of a sudden. So, keep the status-quo? Got another choice? |
thunder rising |
Nov-01-09 10:05 PM |
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It's actually possible to have "reform" that is worse than the status quo. |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-01-09 11:18 PM |
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I think the danger in passing this current 'reform' whatever.. |
joeycola |
Nov-02-09 07:21 AM |
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Most people in debt due to medical bills HAD insurance |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-01-09 10:03 PM |
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+1. |
inna |
Nov-01-09 10:19 PM |
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+2 |
paulk |
Nov-01-09 10:58 PM |
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-3, If ALL HCI's failed financially on Jan 1 we'd have a disaster on our hands they'll fail in less |
uponit7771 |
Nov-02-09 03:51 AM |
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I don't understand that post. eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-02-09 09:23 AM |
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+2 |
Garam_Masala |
Nov-02-09 10:14 AM |
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I think you exaggerate. The total cap will save a large percentage from bankruptcy |
TheKentuckian |
Nov-02-09 03:25 PM |
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Well, since I already lost the job ... |
thunder rising |
Nov-01-09 10:03 PM |
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Agree with Reich, I am worried as well, in hindsight too much energy has gone into HCR and seems PO |
ind_thinker2 |
Nov-01-09 09:50 PM |
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Robert Reich has been all over the map on this. Is he the Travelocity gnome? |
PretzelWarrior |
Nov-01-09 09:50 PM |
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And, PObama has said many times that |
Cha |
Nov-01-09 09:54 PM |
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When he saw the results of the horrible deal cooked up on health care he threw in the towel. |
Better Believe It |
Nov-01-09 10:04 PM |
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As long as people are forced into it, a lot of DUers will be fine with whatever is in the bill. |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-01-09 10:08 PM |
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how is it designed to fail? and which "it" are you referring to? |
PretzelWarrior |
Nov-01-09 10:32 PM |
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Really |
AllentownJake |
Nov-01-09 11:25 PM |
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yes. he's on the sidelines second guessing and being "provocative" |
PretzelWarrior |
Nov-01-09 11:35 PM |
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Critical thinking evidently isn't encouraged anymore |
AllentownJake |
Nov-01-09 11:53 PM |
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ok. I agree that it could very well be he's just putting his opinions out there |
PretzelWarrior |
Nov-02-09 12:17 AM |
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You do understand the 1st amendment right? |
AllentownJake |
Nov-02-09 12:25 AM |
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Why the personal attacks on his looks, which have zero |
Bluenorthwest |
Nov-02-09 08:30 AM |
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PretzelWarrior, without going back into the Reich Archives to verify this I'm going |
bertman |
Nov-03-09 12:54 PM |
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This is simply not true |
ProSense |
Nov-01-09 09:53 PM |
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I appreciate a muti-tasking president myself. All of these things |
firedupdem |
Nov-01-09 09:54 PM |
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Getting people back to work is essential, but those people still |
Cleita |
Nov-01-09 09:55 PM |
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There is no "either/or" here. |
Beregond2 |
Nov-01-09 10:02 PM |
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No we don't. We could make like FDR and do public works projects. |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-01-09 10:21 PM |
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It isn't in the cards |
AllentownJake |
Nov-01-09 11:58 PM |
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You think Congress would approve another stimulus package at this point? |
Jennicut |
Nov-02-09 04:01 AM |
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end all of OUR wars and we can do both actually nt |
msongs |
Nov-01-09 10:10 PM |
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False choice? Does it have to be one or the other? Why can't it be both?? |
BrklynLiberal |
Nov-01-09 10:13 PM |
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It could be both. |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-01-09 10:26 PM |
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I think that's what Reich is asking, too. |
rucky |
Nov-02-09 07:27 AM |
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And the purists turn on Reich in 3... 2... 1... |
Odin2005 |
Nov-01-09 10:30 PM |
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...0! |
boppers |
Nov-01-09 11:51 PM |
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no jobs? -- no nothin -- that's the long and short of all of it. nt |
xchrom |
Nov-01-09 10:31 PM |
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Agree 100% with Reich....without a job one can't afford even the public option |
Garam_Masala |
Nov-02-09 12:14 AM |
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Like someone believes that Pres. Obama is supposed to pull jobs out of his ass better, |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-02-09 01:49 AM |
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President Obama should have proposed a job creating stimulus plan |
Better Believe It |
Nov-02-09 08:27 AM |
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The plan was 1/3 tax cuts. |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-02-09 09:29 AM |
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What, is he Bush? Can't walk and chew gum at the same time? |
Jennicut |
Nov-02-09 03:59 AM |
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Water is more important than food (same "argument") |
SoCalDem |
Nov-02-09 04:47 AM |
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gee.. Maybe a REAL heath care reform would take the burden off |
annabanana |
Nov-02-09 06:30 AM |
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I think Reich's concerns are very plausible. Thanks and REC |
joeycola |
Nov-02-09 07:23 AM |
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Congress is doing most of the heavy lifting on health care. I have no doubt |
TwilightGardener |
Nov-02-09 09:31 AM |
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Crap. And all this time I thought that HCR would uncouple access from being employed, Mr Reich; and |
Hekate |
Nov-02-09 09:32 AM |
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Why can't he do both at the same time? |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Nov-02-09 09:38 AM |
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Unfortunately there will always be something the rich cite as "more important" than HCR |
harun |
Nov-02-09 09:46 AM |
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If mandates are forced on us...how does one afford premiums |
Garam_Masala |
Nov-02-09 10:18 AM |
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Collect aluminum cans .... oh Medicaid and Medicare benefits will have the be cut in order to help |
Better Believe It |
Nov-02-09 01:07 PM |
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As I agree that getting people back to work is vital... |
and-justice-for-all |
Nov-02-09 03:17 PM |
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Where are all those green jobs Obama promised? Gore stepped away in '08 because he thought |
earth mom |
Nov-02-09 03:26 PM |
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You seriously believe that's why Gore didn't run? n/t |
ProSense |
Nov-02-09 03:37 PM |
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At least 2,000 of them are here... |
boppers |
Nov-02-09 05:36 PM |
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2,000? That's a drop in the bucket. nt |
earth mom |
Nov-03-09 12:14 PM |
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