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Fri Oct-30-09 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #93 |
| 101. No one is saying anything about Health Care being non profit. |
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Edited on Fri Oct-30-09 08:13 PM by truedelphi
But health care should not be an industry in which drugs are marked up between 2,000 and 8,200 PERCENT.
Nor should health care be an industry wherein rich people decide that they NEED TO hire an accountant to help them sort through the billing. (Poorer folks have to either devote night and day to sorting through the bills or just head into bankruptcy court.)
I know one family who hired an accountant to help them sift through the bills from the wife's hospital delivery - and lo and behold, the accountant found they were being billed THREE times for their infant's circumcision...
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| -I am sick of the SKY IS FALLING, the SKY IS FALLING crowd |
wndycty |
Oct-29-09 03:06 PM |
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Thank you |
SharonRB |
Oct-29-09 03:10 PM |
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Thank you Wndycty!! |
MadMaddie |
Oct-29-09 03:10 PM |
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True. LBJ made huge compromises |
impik |
Oct-29-09 06:59 PM |
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Agreed! Americans have been brainwashed into thinking that |
MadMaddie |
Oct-29-09 08:44 PM |
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Mainly bc the Sky is not |
Cha |
Oct-29-09 03:12 PM |
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Recommended |
graywarrior |
Oct-29-09 03:12 PM |
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I, like Barbara Ehrenreich, am sick of being "bright-sided" |
rudy23 |
Oct-29-09 03:13 PM |
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And exactly how is this the bright side of losing? |
wndycty |
Oct-29-09 03:16 PM |
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Like he's not being considered a sell-out NOW - and we didn't get anything. |
chimpymustgo |
Oct-29-09 03:51 PM |
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Progressives are not the majority in the party |
impik |
Oct-29-09 07:02 PM |
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Please read Jane Hamsher's wonderful post yesterday |
truedelphi |
Oct-30-09 01:33 PM |
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What happens to |
Hutzpa |
Oct-30-09 03:49 PM |
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Should everything be non profit? |
treestar |
Oct-30-09 05:56 PM |
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No one is saying anything about Health Care being non profit. |
truedelphi |
Oct-30-09 08:13 PM |
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"We" are not in the majority. |
geek tragedy |
Oct-29-09 03:17 PM |
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That's because only a determined MINORITY can be educated about this mess we're in! |
cascadiance |
Oct-29-09 03:21 PM |
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The majority doesn't want crappy health reform that mandates we buy crappy private insurance.. |
girl gone mad |
Oct-29-09 05:26 PM |
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The House bill does not require that anybody buy private insurance. |
bornskeptic |
Oct-31-09 04:21 PM |
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What the hell does the fact that progressive are not in the majority have to do with anything? |
rhett o rick |
Oct-30-09 03:16 PM |
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That is not the point of that book |
treestar |
Oct-29-09 05:11 PM |
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Isn't it just as likely that the other side (and those of us on their side) will be successful |
T Wolf |
Oct-29-09 03:14 PM |
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Well I am not a progressive.. I am a liberal.. but that being said |
Peacetrain |
Oct-29-09 03:15 PM |
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K & R! |
NYC_SKP |
Oct-29-09 03:16 PM |
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You don't know what is counter-productive |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Oct-29-09 03:16 PM |
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Yeah, and the protestors ended Vietnam, right? (nt) |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Oct-29-09 03:17 PM |
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So what am I? A cheerleader? A personality cultist? |
wndycty |
Oct-29-09 03:19 PM |
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Utter BS |
treestar |
Oct-29-09 05:13 PM |
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lol. "obama sucks but we'll take credit for any good that happens you pom pom waving cheerleaders" |
dionysus |
Oct-29-09 07:50 PM |
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Great Post, there, Kurt_And_Hunter. n/t |
truedelphi |
Oct-31-09 01:59 AM |
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I'm growing weary of the NEED for these kinds of threads on a daily basis. |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Oct-29-09 03:17 PM |
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No different than Daily Kos or HuffPost |
impik |
Oct-29-09 07:04 PM |
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The difference is that it's always been that way at those sites. |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Oct-30-09 07:33 AM |
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AMEN!! Damn, they're losing credibilty slowly but surely |
uponit7771 |
Oct-29-09 03:18 PM |
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The timeline is BS |
ramapo |
Oct-29-09 03:18 PM |
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That timeline is the only way the bill came in under $900 billion. |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Oct-30-09 07:36 AM |
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and argument based on funding is bullshit. |
tomp |
Oct-30-09 11:56 AM |
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Then the reasoning is bullshit. |
Raineyb |
Nov-01-09 04:14 PM |
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To be blunt, it's not the House I am worried about |
Tom Rinaldo |
Oct-29-09 03:22 PM |
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Bingo Tom...It is the senate bill that is going to be the gut wrencher.. the house bill |
Peacetrain |
Oct-29-09 03:25 PM |
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mandates, key to the reality of this bill. |
sam kane |
Oct-29-09 03:26 PM |
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As one of the ones it would affect, that really concerns me... |
OneGrassRoot |
Oct-29-09 06:45 PM |
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I am sick of the accept any piece of garbage legislation crowd. Your acceptance of |
ej510 |
Oct-29-09 03:34 PM |
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Fecal matter? Really now |
wndycty |
Oct-29-09 03:36 PM |
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Looks like instead of half a loaf of bread, you'd rather starve. |
Ikonoklast |
Oct-29-09 03:40 PM |
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Could be Billions of "Stored Calories" due to Drinking Soft Drinks purchased with Food Stamps. |
NYC_SKP |
Oct-29-09 03:46 PM |
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Cursed Halloween Candy. |
Ikonoklast |
Oct-29-09 03:52 PM |
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If the repukes gain power back they will make this old piece gum stuck underneath a desk worse than |
ej510 |
Oct-29-09 03:48 PM |
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feel free to leave, the larouchies are hiring. |
dionysus |
Oct-29-09 07:52 PM |
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so how much is a guy with 3 dependants on $ 75K going to pay |
bikingaz |
Oct-29-09 09:54 PM |
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I am sick of the cut off your nose to spite your face crowd. |
nemo137 |
Oct-30-09 01:46 AM |
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Not half as sick as I am of the last 40 years of the |
ipaint |
Oct-29-09 03:46 PM |
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Thank You! |
ej510 |
Oct-29-09 03:50 PM |
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its the We will settle for crumbs crowd-just to get a bill that is dangerous |
joeycola |
Oct-29-09 04:19 PM |
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+1, +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 thank you! |
flyarm |
Oct-29-09 10:13 PM |
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Then celebrate what we do get, so more Progressives are elected. |
Dawgs |
Oct-30-09 08:18 AM |
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The democratic party tore itself down when it took a hard right turn years ago |
ipaint |
Oct-30-09 03:48 PM |
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DAMN STRAIGHT |
Skittles |
Oct-30-09 06:41 PM |
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Yikes! I just got hit on the head by something! Oh, no -- it's a piece of sky. |
damntexdem |
Oct-29-09 04:16 PM |
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DU's full of drama queens today. |
backscatter712 |
Oct-29-09 04:19 PM |
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along with the ones insisting the economy can never get better |
treestar |
Oct-29-09 05:14 PM |
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And 3.5 GDP growth is actually a a bad thing |
impik |
Oct-29-09 07:07 PM |
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and how many jobs were gained?? tough feeding your kids without a fucking job ! |
flyarm |
Oct-29-09 10:16 PM |
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What if it's necessary? If there was no GDP growth, no job growth |
treestar |
Oct-30-09 06:23 PM |
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Right Let's all get out our pom-poms and cheer the theft of a huge chunk-- |
eridani |
Oct-30-09 01:12 AM |
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I'm sick of mediocrity |
Bluenorthwest |
Oct-29-09 04:42 PM |
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it surely does work on a lot of people though |
Skittles |
Oct-30-09 06:40 PM |
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Yeah why can't people with their stupid legitimate concerns |
spoony |
Oct-29-09 04:44 PM |
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Some would rather "wait" then fight for something less then perfect. |
Jennicut |
Oct-29-09 04:44 PM |
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Get what you want now, because it takes decades to make changes. |
ej510 |
Oct-29-09 04:47 PM |
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Maybe because we're still waiting (16 years later) for the SHIT the last "Democratic" administration |
Sebastian Doyle |
Oct-30-09 12:35 PM |
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I agree with you. |
ej510 |
Oct-30-09 05:53 PM |
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Sick of it? Then stop hogging the rose colored glasses. n/t |
cherokeeprogressive |
Oct-29-09 04:47 PM |
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LOL |
joeycola |
Oct-29-09 04:56 PM |
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I am tired of "Democrats" .... |
bvar22 |
Oct-29-09 04:54 PM |
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I'm tired of Democrats calling others "Democrats." |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Oct-30-09 07:38 AM |
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Name removed |
Oct-30-09 06:25 PM |
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There are a few dozen here that do nothing BUT criticize. |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Oct-31-09 10:24 AM |
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Who's pony is this health insurance thing? Are you expressing poutrage? |
VMI Dem |
Oct-29-09 05:09 PM |
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Me too! |
treestar |
Oct-29-09 05:09 PM |
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You TELL 'em WNDY!!! NT |
Clio the Leo |
Oct-29-09 05:59 PM |
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Word. |
jefferson_dem |
Oct-29-09 06:01 PM |
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Ditto. nt |
Honeycombe8 |
Oct-29-09 07:51 PM |
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You are a breath of fresh, clean, fragrant air in this forum tonight...thank you! |
cry baby |
Oct-29-09 10:11 PM |
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K&R! n/t |
firedupdem |
Oct-29-09 11:02 PM |
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We do not need to pass this bill. If they won't let at least some into Medicare-- |
eridani |
Oct-30-09 01:11 AM |
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Do you realize it's literally historic that any health care bill has gotten to THIS point? |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Oct-30-09 07:39 AM |
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It's historic only because Congress has agreed on a way to rob us blind |
eridani |
Oct-30-09 07:56 PM |
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Yes, this is the first step to a brighter future. |
ProgressOnTheMove |
Oct-30-09 04:02 AM |
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Well said - I agree. n/t |
Laurab |
Oct-30-09 05:54 AM |
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self delete |
lunatica |
Oct-30-09 08:24 AM |
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Coming to terms with the fact that dystopian head cases post A LOT on DU? |
HamdenRice |
Oct-30-09 10:09 AM |
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Bullshit. I'm sick of the ass kissers who can be bought off with cheap slogans like hope & change. |
earth mom |
Oct-30-09 10:27 AM |
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I agree, more shitty legislation that is change we can believe in. |
ej510 |
Oct-30-09 10:41 AM |
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Right on Sistah! And I'm sick of ... |
HamdenRice |
Oct-30-09 11:32 AM |
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How about slogans about war and terra |
treestar |
Oct-30-09 05:54 PM |
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I just had to turn off Ed Schultz |
BlueGirlRedState |
Oct-30-09 11:34 AM |
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The sky fell a looooong time ago. |
tomp |
Oct-30-09 11:51 AM |
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Once this bill is passed and gets road tested, its flaws will no doubt |
kestrel91316 |
Oct-30-09 11:56 AM |
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I don't get either the terminally negative or the terminally positive. |
Forkboy |
Oct-30-09 12:08 PM |
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Hear hear! This is the BEGINNING, not the END. |
mzmolly |
Oct-30-09 02:52 PM |
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That's how I feel too, wndycty |
SeattleGirl |
Oct-30-09 02:59 PM |
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What else is there to say but |
Hutzpa |
Oct-30-09 03:30 PM |
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Thank you. Well said. |
Hansel |
Oct-30-09 03:58 PM |
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So, Your Strategy Is Take Something, Anything - That Would Be Equivocation |
ProleNoMore |
Oct-30-09 06:31 PM |
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Unfortunately, if the public option is designed to fail, the sky will fall |
depakid |
Oct-30-09 06:54 PM |
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Maybe you should go to happytalk.com while we discuss pros AND cons |
GOTV |
Oct-31-09 06:27 AM |
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I'm sick of them too. |
HopeOverFear |
Oct-31-09 08:29 AM |
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Complacency and complicity are what make ME sick. |
freddie mertz |
Oct-31-09 09:23 AM |
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Clinton, regrettably, did not get this far with HCR |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Oct-31-09 10:58 AM |
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One Wonders If The OP Lives In The "Reality-Based Community"? |
ProleNoMore |
Oct-31-09 11:02 AM |
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I'm starting to wonder what they say when they deal with repukes |
treestar |
Oct-31-09 11:59 AM |
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Really? |
spoony |
Oct-31-09 12:14 PM |
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Some of the same things, then |
treestar |
Oct-31-09 12:29 PM |
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Such as? |
spoony |
Oct-31-09 01:46 PM |
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Do you ever talk to right wingers? |
treestar |
Oct-31-09 04:28 PM |
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Nonsense. |
spoony |
Nov-01-09 08:03 AM |
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So do you defend the Dems to right wing nuts? |
treestar |
Nov-01-09 06:36 PM |
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GREAT POST ! It's not perfect, but it is BETTER and an ADVANCE and will drive a stake into the |
RBInMaine |
Oct-31-09 12:31 PM |
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