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Fri Oct-30-09 04:14 AM
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| 102. Hillary and Bill played the race card too much |
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Thats what turned me off about them. I preferred Obama, but at first I didn't think he could win. But after the Clinton's starting race baiting him, I was team Obama 110% and have been ever since. Hillary really pissed me off when she said she can only win the white vote, the Clinton's really will do anything to win and that includes feeding racism. About her approval ratings, any time you are out of the public eye, your ratings will go up. The same thing happened with Michelle Obama, once she started keeping a low profile, doing gardening and talking to kids her ratings went up. Hillary is never on TV or giving speeches, so naturally her ratings were going to go up as well. The POTUS is the one who takes all the blows and punches at the end of the day, so of course his appvl ratings would be below hers.  |
| -Obama wanted Clinton as VP, Plouffe says |
jefferson_dem |
Oct-29-09 07:45 AM |
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that would have made GOP heads explode. |
dionysus |
Oct-29-09 07:48 AM |
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The GOP? |
Beacool |
Oct-29-09 09:39 AM |
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i have the perfect remedy for exploding heads! |
dionysus |
Oct-29-09 09:51 AM |
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Thank you, I've been home sick for two days and could use a banky. |
Beacool |
Oct-29-09 10:03 AM |
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get better soon Bea :) |
dionysus |
Oct-29-09 10:08 AM |
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Thank you, Dionysus!! |
Beacool |
Oct-29-09 10:21 AM |
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But like this health 'reform" Obama not willing to stick up for her. I hope |
joeycola |
Oct-29-09 11:25 AM |
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Thank you, Joey!! |
Beacool |
Oct-29-09 12:10 PM |
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What's that? Bad mouthing President Obama again? |
Cha |
Oct-29-09 12:13 PM |
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and you never miss an opportunity to bad mouth DU members who you |
joeycola |
Oct-29-09 12:58 PM |
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Yes, I disagree with your whining clueless dissing |
Cha |
Oct-29-09 01:10 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Oct-29-09 11:34 AM |
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"The left surpassed the right during the primaries in their derision of the Clintons." |
jesus_of_suburbia |
Oct-29-09 03:17 PM |
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yes, I agree with that. |
joeycola |
Oct-29-09 04:39 PM |
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Maybe it was me, but what exactly did the left do to deride the Clintons? |
Nedsdag |
Oct-29-09 05:04 PM |
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There were many who thought that would have been the perfect dream team, |
Arkansas Granny |
Oct-29-09 08:02 AM |
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I really dislike when our primaries go negative. |
mkultra |
Oct-29-09 08:04 AM |
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Obama was always wiser and more cool headed than DU's hard core partisans |
Tom Rinaldo |
Oct-29-09 08:08 AM |
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Not trying to cause an issue, but there were some pretty ugly assertions from the Clinton campaign |
still_one |
Oct-29-09 08:15 AM |
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The "ugly assertions" you speak of was hysteria gone wild. The Clintons are and were by no means |
xultar |
Oct-29-09 08:50 AM |
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^ revisionist history |
Lord Helmet |
Oct-29-09 10:09 AM |
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Don't you just love revisionist history? |
Cha |
Oct-29-09 12:06 PM |
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can you picture Obama at a presser yelling: Shame on You, Hillary Clinton, Shame on You! |
Whisp |
Oct-30-09 12:57 AM |
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That was Andrew's version of events. |
Beacool |
Oct-29-09 12:49 PM |
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Sorry to say it, but the Clinton's dredged the swamps for the wrong |
Solomon |
Oct-29-09 01:00 PM |
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OK, let's clarify something here. |
Beacool |
Oct-29-09 01:12 PM |
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Would you just give it up? |
Number23 |
Oct-29-09 04:56 PM |
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Thanks. I don't have to bother to reply to this |
Solomon |
Oct-30-09 04:29 AM |
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I never for a moment believed that the clintons are or were racist - |
RaleighNCDUer |
Oct-29-09 10:26 AM |
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He compared Obama to Jesse Jackson after the SC win. |
Colobo |
Oct-29-09 10:50 PM |
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So what? |
Beacool |
Oct-29-09 11:32 PM |
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And phrased it in such a way as to imply that 'of COURSE Obama |
RaleighNCDUer |
Oct-30-09 03:12 PM |
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I wasn't referring to that. The ad about how mccain was competent to be president |
still_one |
Oct-29-09 01:50 PM |
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It went both ways, xultar. It was rough because both sides played hardball. |
Colobo |
Oct-29-09 10:48 PM |
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No, but they hired racists to run Hillary's campaign |
Sebastian Doyle |
Oct-30-09 02:27 PM |
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No one said they were racist. They said they were using racism |
Hansel |
Oct-30-09 04:48 PM |
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according to the book by that Wolffe guy called "Renegade" |
jonnyblitz |
Oct-29-09 08:52 AM |
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Which was fucking stupid at best and sexist. |
xultar |
Oct-29-09 08:53 AM |
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And they were proven wrong. |
Beacool |
Oct-29-09 09:47 AM |
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I'll bet she's enjoying Sec. of State more than she would |
annabanana |
Oct-29-09 08:23 AM |
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I'm so glad she's not President because she doesn't have to deal with the hate from both |
xultar |
Oct-29-09 08:56 AM |
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The 'Progressive" will bring the GOP back |
impik |
Oct-29-09 01:51 PM |
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Remember that big War here in DU back then? |
quantass |
Oct-29-09 08:40 AM |
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Funny thing she is the same person. I was angry @ Obama for not |
xultar |
Oct-29-09 08:59 AM |
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"she is the same person" |
JohnnyLib2 |
Oct-29-09 09:10 AM |
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That's one of the best assessments of the situation that I've seen. |
Arkansas Granny |
Oct-29-09 09:34 AM |
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Hear, hear!!! |
Beacool |
Oct-29-09 01:40 PM |
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I was angry @ Obama for not telling his supporters to stop calling the Clintons racist. |
jesus_of_suburbia |
Oct-29-09 03:22 PM |
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Interesting. I was angry and disappointed at the Clintons for sinking below themselves and actually |
Number23 |
Oct-29-09 05:00 PM |
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Exactly. |
Colobo |
Oct-29-09 10:53 PM |
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Are you trying to say that Hillary would not have pulled the same stunts? |
Nedsdag |
Oct-29-09 05:09 PM |
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Did she tell her supporters to stop calling him sexist? |
MadBadger |
Oct-29-09 11:16 PM |
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!!!THANK YOU!!! |
Number23 |
Oct-30-09 12:04 AM |
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she was a totally different person in her campaign than she appears now. |
Whisp |
Oct-30-09 01:03 AM |
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There was no greater Obama kool aid drinker in the primaries than me... |
jefferson_dem |
Oct-29-09 09:04 AM |
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nice comment |
BootinUp |
Oct-29-09 05:09 PM |
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Most did not return. |
Beacool |
Oct-29-09 09:49 AM |
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I wonder if Michelle runs for Pres in the future..... |
jesus_of_suburbia |
Oct-29-09 03:30 PM |
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Nahhhh, they'll develop amnesia by then. |
Beacool |
Oct-29-09 04:45 PM |
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Amnesia or hypocrisy? I'd go with the latter. |
jesus_of_suburbia |
Oct-29-09 10:31 PM |
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I was trying to be nice, |
Beacool |
Oct-29-09 11:38 PM |
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Oh come on, nothing you do is nice |
MadBadger |
Oct-29-09 11:41 PM |
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so Bill sabotaged Hillary again? |
WI_DEM |
Oct-29-09 09:03 AM |
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I think sexism did that. |
xultar |
Oct-29-09 09:12 AM |
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I think sexism played a very big role. |
joeycola |
Oct-29-09 12:59 PM |
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I said many months before the primaries were over that whoever won should choose the other as VP. |
Beacool |
Oct-29-09 09:44 AM |
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I said the opposite. I thought neither Clinton nor Obama is cut out for it. |
Captain Hilts |
Oct-29-09 11:35 AM |
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In that we can agree. |
Beacool |
Oct-29-09 12:17 PM |
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I love Hillary |
fugop |
Oct-29-09 09:45 AM |
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She has more power as Secretary of State than Joe Biden has as Vice President. |
ej510 |
Oct-29-09 09:52 AM |
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agree, The right choices were made. |
ErinBerin84 |
Oct-29-09 11:22 AM |
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Misleading OP title. |
Lord Helmet |
Oct-29-09 10:04 AM |
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Par for the course. n/t |
wisteria |
Oct-29-09 10:10 AM |
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Get a grip, you two. I posted this exactly as it read originally on the CNN site. |
jefferson_dem |
Oct-29-09 11:51 AM |
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Well, he ultimately made a wise choice in Biden. n/t |
wisteria |
Oct-29-09 10:08 AM |
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The charge of "inexperience" |
treestar |
Oct-29-09 01:10 PM |
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He made the right choice in the end |
mkultra |
Oct-29-09 10:27 AM |
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Oh, please.............. |
Beacool |
Oct-29-09 11:01 AM |
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at the time, she had the highest negatives |
mkultra |
Oct-29-09 11:12 AM |
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Here you go............ |
Beacool |
Oct-29-09 12:07 PM |
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i see, so he lost alot of republican support |
mkultra |
Oct-29-09 12:44 PM |
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Well, you will notice that even among Democrats she's a bit more popular. |
Beacool |
Oct-29-09 12:57 PM |
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true, but what matters is what the numbers look like at the end. |
mkultra |
Oct-29-09 01:14 PM |
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That's because she's practically out of the spotlight. |
Nedsdag |
Oct-29-09 05:17 PM |
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Here's one poll |
blue_onyx |
Oct-29-09 12:19 PM |
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ha ha. she sure Obama a run for his life. |
joeycola |
Oct-29-09 11:05 AM |
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her support among dems was good but |
mkultra |
Oct-29-09 11:16 AM |
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It was supposed to be the other way around, though. |
Arugula Latte |
Oct-29-09 12:22 PM |
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More like style won over substance. |
Beacool |
Oct-29-09 12:26 PM |
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so, your slamming obama now because ? |
mkultra |
Oct-29-09 12:46 PM |
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What did her in were the undemocratic caucuses. |
Beacool |
Oct-29-09 01:00 PM |
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well, that line of discussion goes back to what i just said |
mkultra |
Oct-29-09 01:11 PM |
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My beef about caucuses goes way before this last election. |
Beacool |
Oct-29-09 01:24 PM |
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so what are your feelings on MI and FL moving their dates up |
mkultra |
Oct-29-09 02:53 PM |
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this has pretty much been reported before.. |
ErinBerin84 |
Oct-29-09 11:13 AM |
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. |
mkultra |
Oct-29-09 11:15 AM |
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I remember similar fake outrage |
ErinBerin84 |
Oct-29-09 11:17 AM |
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thats how i feel |
mkultra |
Oct-29-09 11:56 AM |
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I would have been fine with Hillary as VP. |
Jennicut |
Oct-29-09 12:20 PM |
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I think Hillary would like her SoS job more |
mvd |
Oct-29-09 03:03 PM |
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"I am glad we have Joe Biden too." --- I agree... I love Joe. |
jesus_of_suburbia |
Oct-29-09 03:35 PM |
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Meh, didn't happen. This is just inviting primary rehash, unfortunately. n/t |
CakeGrrl |
Oct-29-09 04:29 PM |
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But she didn't make it to the final three - Biden, Kaine and *cough* Bayh. nt |
polichick |
Oct-29-09 04:35 PM |
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Who are the little whiny babies unrecc'ing this thread |
BootinUp |
Oct-29-09 05:36 PM |
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Plouffe cannot read Obama's mind |
bunnysoft |
Oct-29-09 10:51 PM |
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Hillary and Bill played the race card too much |
Obamacare |
Oct-30-09 04:14 AM |
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self-delete n/t |
bunnysoft |
Oct-30-09 06:07 AM |
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bump |
Obamacare |
Oct-30-09 02:05 PM |
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I always thought he would have seriously considered Clinton for VP |
tammywammy |
Oct-30-09 03:28 PM |
#108 |
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