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Reply #24: ahh you need to read , "THE SECRET TEAM" BY L. FLETCHER PROUTY [View All]

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24. ahh you need to read , "THE SECRET TEAM" BY L. FLETCHER PROUTY
Edited on Wed Oct-28-09 06:15 PM by flyarm
lots of discussion about Eisenhower..and how he was fucked over by the CIA and Allen Dulles and the CIA and how he had to take responsibility when he was fucked over by the CIA and the shadow government or the Secret team..page 35:

" When President Eisenhower accepted the responsibility for the U-2 flights over the Soviet Union, no one would have questioned that he did this for correct and honorable reasons.National Aeronautics and Space Administrator (NASA) Keith Glenman had already made a public statement that the U-2 was operating out of Turkey as a NASA high-altitude, flight -research aircraft and had strayed over Russian territory inadvertently in high winds. Then Nikita Khrushchev produced the wreckage of the U-2 deep in Russia near Sverdlovsk, it made a mockery of the NASAcover story, and when he produced the pilot alive and well, it demolished the rest of the plausible disclaimer. The CIA was caught without a plausible cover story, and the President had to choose.He could either discredit Allen Dulles and the CIA for operating that clandestine flight and a long series of flights without his knowledge, or he could, as Eisenhower did stand up and take the blame himself on the basis that he knew of and had ordered the flights and was in complete control of everything done in the foriegn arena by this Government. The latter choice would mean that the President of the United States is Commander in Chief during peacetime clandestine operations as he is in time of war. This is a totally new doctrine born of the vicissitudes of the Cold War."

"many have considered this a very noble stand on the part of President Eisenhower, and it was. However, this public admission by the Chief of State that he directed clandestine operations within another state is exactly the type of thing that reduces the prestige and credibility of the United States in the family of nations to the condition described by Arnold Toynbee. Interference in the internal affairs of one nation by another is an unpardonable violation of International law and custom."

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let us not forget, that Eisenhower was a GENERAL in a war.... Obama has not ever seen a uniform on his body.

If Eisenhower could be fucked by the CIA and the likes of Allen Dulles and the shadow government run under Dulles and the ilk like him....what makes you think the shadow government.. does not or could not.. have control of Obama..with little ,to no experience?

To equate him to Eisenhower is an utter joke!

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this was posted before Obama Was elected President, here at Du , it was posted about Bush..and it is about Bush..but what is said here about Eisenhower, still stands..Obama does not know war, he can not understand war..he never even served in our military..he has never stood and watched another soldier die in war...please do not equate him to Eisenhower. That is an insult to every soldier who ever served this nation..Eisenhower warned about the Military Industrial Complex, because he experienced it first hand!

"He is the President who does not feel."


The Unfeeling President
http://evilqueen.demesnes.net/mp3/e_l_doct ...

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  To understand the Obama presidency it helps to read, "The Hidden Hand Presidency" on Eisenhower HamdenRice  Oct-28-09 08:57 AM   #0 
   Nice piece.  Richardo   Oct-28-09 09:07 AM   #1 
   Thanks for the compliment! nt  HamdenRice   Oct-28-09 09:55 AM   #5 
   I have a question....Who is Greenfield? Your posts names Greenfield,but it could be a typo.  vaberella   Oct-28-09 09:16 AM   #2 
   Sorry, typo -- it should be Greenstein throughout! nt  HamdenRice   Oct-28-09 09:47 AM   #4 
   That may work for day-to-day affairs...  rucky   Oct-28-09 09:19 AM   #3 
   you are assuming he hasn't.  mopinko   Oct-28-09 10:14 AM   #7 
   If the public doesn't know, then he hasn't.  rucky   Oct-28-09 10:40 AM   #9 
   says you  mopinko   Oct-28-09 11:13 AM   #10 
   I never presented it as anything but my opinion  rucky   Oct-28-09 11:30 AM   #12 
   You're demonstrating exactly what the OP is about  HamdenRice   Oct-28-09 11:29 AM   #11 
   False dichotomy. Both approaches are effective...  rucky   Oct-28-09 11:44 AM   #14 
      I realize it's a false dichotomy. That's why I asked it hypothetically.  HamdenRice   Oct-28-09 02:34 PM   #20 
   Nope. A great leader knows never to show their hand and talk to their people.  vaberella   Oct-28-09 02:32 PM   #19 
   then we should assume that the piece of crap we're getting  paulk   Oct-28-09 10:10 PM   #35 
      It  rucognizant   Oct-29-09 04:12 AM   #38 
      you can assume that he was the leader. if you think that means he gets  mopinko   Oct-29-09 08:46 AM   #39 
         I think we're going to get exactly what he wants  paulk   Oct-29-09 10:29 AM   #41 
            absolutely! we were sold out in those secret meetings with the big boys of the health industry! eom  flyarm   Oct-29-09 11:08 AM   #42 
            that  mopinko   Oct-29-09 08:50 PM   #45 
   I was one of the people who thought of Ike as a do nothing president.  jwirr   Oct-28-09 06:20 PM   #27 
   Ike was a much smarter man and skilled politician then many gave him credit for.  Jennicut   Oct-28-09 09:57 AM   #6 
   see my post #24..Ike was a general..he saw war first hand and he was still fucked over by the shadow  flyarm   Oct-29-09 11:11 AM   #43 
      Thanks for the Truman quote, but there's a different interpretation of the U2  HamdenRice   Oct-29-09 12:45 PM   #44 
   Yeah, but I think that theory really only applies to Congress...  Clio the Leo   Oct-28-09 10:23 AM   #8 
   Excellent piece  HopeOverFear   Oct-28-09 11:34 AM   #13 
   Yup, Been Saying For A While O's Getting Stuff Done Behind The Scenes  Beetwasher   Oct-28-09 11:56 AM   #15 
   Fantastic piece, and I agree.  msallied   Oct-28-09 12:41 PM   #16 
   Fascinating! Thank you so much for sharing! A great find.  AspenRose   Oct-28-09 12:54 PM   #17 
   And excellent post.  bleever   Oct-28-09 01:11 PM   #18 
   Good book  conscious evolution   Oct-28-09 03:32 PM   #21 
   Good read. It explains the misperception that he's "not a real leader"  CakeGrrl   Oct-28-09 04:15 PM   #22 
   America needs a leader to stand up to the corporate powers that be...  debbierlus   Oct-28-09 05:48 PM   #23 
   Wrong!!!  Baltoman991   Oct-28-09 05:58 PM   #25 
      What is he fighting for? Private insurance mandates - Whopee!  debbierlus   Oct-28-09 06:47 PM   #28 
   ahh you need to read , "THE SECRET TEAM" BY L. FLETCHER PROUTY  flyarm   Oct-28-09 05:58 PM   #24 
   Yes. "The President who does not feel"...  fooj   Oct-28-09 07:20 PM   #30 
   Interesting read, but it's much more  impik   Oct-28-09 06:13 PM   #26 
   Hidden hand is well hidden on some issues  pmorlan1   Oct-28-09 07:19 PM   #29 
   Amen.  fooj   Oct-28-09 07:26 PM   #31 
      Yeah, that's the ONE thing average americans care about when they wake up. (eom)  dolphindance   Oct-28-09 10:09 PM   #34 
   He can hide his hand all he wants....  humbled_opinion   Oct-28-09 08:55 PM   #32 
   Excellent OP. n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Oct-28-09 09:17 PM   #33 
   kick and recommend  Douglas Carpenter   Oct-29-09 12:38 AM   #36 
   K&R nt  quiet.american   Oct-29-09 01:40 AM   #37 
   This makes for enlightening reading. Thanks.  Hekate   Oct-29-09 09:25 AM   #40 
 

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