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Mon Oct-26-09 10:00 PM
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| 24. Why is that an awful thing to say, YvonneCa? That is the REALITY of this wetdream for |
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the MICC.
Having tended to the wounded and the dying and having seen firsthand the destruction wrought by our reckless use of military might I will NEVER again be quiet or downplay what the consequences are. I intend to be as forceful as I can in hopes that this madness might be stopped.
We Americans go to war via teevee while the Iraqis and Afghanis get to experience our adventures in imperialism for real. Warfare is hell on earth for those upon whom it is visited.
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| -Excerpts From Senator John Kerry's Speech On Afghanistan |
ProSense |
Oct-26-09 01:45 PM |
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I'm sorry, I just don't agree with counterinsurgency and the nation building |
TwilightGardener |
Oct-26-09 01:53 PM |
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Kerry explicitly spoke out against nation building. n/t |
ProSense |
Oct-26-09 01:55 PM |
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Ignore him/her ProSense |
fedupinBushcountry |
Oct-26-09 02:02 PM |
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I don't want to watch the whole damn thing, and don't need to, if quotes |
TwilightGardener |
Oct-26-09 02:12 PM |
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The quotes were given in no context at all - so how could they be in |
karynnj |
Oct-26-09 02:55 PM |
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I skimmed the transcript--everything is as it appears, meaning-wise. |
TwilightGardener |
Oct-26-09 03:12 PM |
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Nice summary and I won't quibble with words |
karynnj |
Oct-26-09 03:29 PM |
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I don't think you can have one without the other. To successfully |
TwilightGardener |
Oct-26-09 02:09 PM |
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You're suggesting nation building is the only way to successfully defeat the Taliban? |
ProSense |
Oct-26-09 02:20 PM |
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We almost defeated the Taliban in the early years. |
TwilightGardener |
Oct-26-09 02:49 PM |
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Those are valid points |
karynnj |
Oct-26-09 03:10 PM |
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If you listened to the speech, part of couterinsurgency |
karynnj |
Oct-26-09 03:00 PM |
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What do you define as nation building? |
sandnsea |
Oct-26-09 03:35 PM |
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CFR has the full text |
sandnsea |
Oct-26-09 01:53 PM |
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Thanks for the link. |
TwilightGardener |
Oct-26-09 02:58 PM |
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This was an excellent speech that laid out a "middle ground" on |
beachmom |
Oct-26-09 02:06 PM |
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More justifying the unjustifiable. We went into Afghanistan to destroy al Qaeda. We did that |
bertman |
Oct-26-09 03:11 PM |
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It is amazing how many people, when hit with something they disagree with, |
beachmom |
Oct-26-09 03:14 PM |
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Many on here do Not want to |
Cha |
Oct-26-09 04:05 PM |
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You overlook the obvious, beachmom. If we're so worried about al Qaeda coming back |
bertman |
Oct-26-09 08:50 PM |
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What an awful thing to say. n/t |
YvonneCa |
Oct-26-09 09:09 PM |
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Why is that an awful thing to say, YvonneCa? That is the REALITY of this wetdream for |
bertman |
Oct-26-09 10:00 PM |
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Partially right, partially wrong |
TayTay |
Oct-26-09 09:10 PM |
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If we leave al qaeda to Pakistan |
sandnsea |
Oct-26-09 03:34 PM |
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More bureaucratic slop |
jeanpalmer |
Oct-26-09 10:39 PM |
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We have no mission statement. |
unhappycamper |
Oct-27-09 05:45 AM |
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