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Mon Oct-19-09 03:44 PM
Response to Reply #110 |
| 126. Right. No harm meant at all. |
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Edited on Mon Oct-19-09 03:45 PM by politicasista
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| -Kerry: Obama would be "irresponsible" to send more troops to Afghanistan now |
PBS Poll-435 |
Oct-17-09 03:03 PM |
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Thank you, John Kerry. |
Blue_In_AK |
Oct-17-09 03:05 PM |
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I welcome his input. |
olegramps |
Oct-18-09 08:03 AM |
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He is absolutely correct in this. nt |
ooglymoogly |
Oct-18-09 11:34 AM |
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I agree |
slay |
Oct-17-09 03:15 PM |
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I love Kerry, but seriously----I don't think he's in on meetings going on in the Situation room. |
vaberella |
Oct-17-09 03:15 PM |
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No one but Obama can make a call, but Kerry is most definately able to give his opinion |
karynnj |
Oct-17-09 03:32 PM |
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They don't care. They see this a Kerry putting Obama on blast |
politicasista |
Oct-17-09 05:19 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-17-09 05:49 PM |
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No need to be rude or harsh. I support them both. |
politicasista |
Oct-17-09 05:53 PM |
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Don't you think it' a bit rude of you to presume much about my post?! |
vaberella |
Oct-17-09 06:18 PM |
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I am not a rude poster. Never bother anyone here |
politicasista |
Oct-17-09 06:22 PM |
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Note your post....you didn't use the words but did imply it. |
vaberella |
Oct-17-09 07:16 PM |
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Well, if you were offended, |
politicasista |
Oct-17-09 07:26 PM |
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Maybe it was easy to draw such a conclusion based on the tone of your reply. |
wisteria |
Oct-17-09 09:40 PM |
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How was I dismissive? |
vaberella |
Oct-17-09 09:43 PM |
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Maybe it was the" but seriously"......... comment. |
wisteria |
Oct-17-09 11:28 PM |
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Ahh....I see. However, that's not the intention. |
vaberella |
Oct-18-09 03:12 AM |
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I understand. No harm meant. n/t |
wisteria |
Oct-18-09 01:27 PM |
#110 |
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Right. No harm meant at all. |
politicasista |
Oct-19-09 03:44 PM |
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Perhaps it was the line about being in the situation room ... like any one |
rtassi |
Oct-18-09 01:22 PM |
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I seriously doubt he is not privy to anything in that room |
karynnj |
Oct-17-09 06:45 PM |
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I agree with you and see your point. |
vaberella |
Oct-17-09 07:20 PM |
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Well said. n/t |
wisteria |
Oct-17-09 09:41 PM |
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That's not what I'm implying at all. |
vaberella |
Oct-17-09 06:21 PM |
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Would you have said that of Bush? |
karynnj |
Oct-17-09 06:59 PM |
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What does Bush have to do with anything?! |
vaberella |
Oct-17-09 07:13 PM |
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No you didn't mention Bush, nor do I think Obama and Bush are similar |
karynnj |
Oct-17-09 08:21 PM |
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Understood. This is what I wasn't aware of. Thanks for explaining. |
vaberella |
Oct-17-09 09:45 PM |
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The man is the head of the SFRC. If he and Levin are not privy of most information, there is a |
Mass |
Oct-17-09 07:25 PM |
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You explained that below and karynnj had explained the role... |
vaberella |
Oct-17-09 07:30 PM |
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And no one in the situation room knows that region better than Kerry. And Obama knows it and |
blm |
Oct-17-09 04:19 PM |
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delete n/t |
politicasista |
Oct-17-09 04:44 PM |
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So are you telling me that Kerry is in the situation room meetings? |
vaberella |
Oct-17-09 06:13 PM |
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Are you saying you know what Obama thinks? |
Mass |
Oct-17-09 07:21 PM |
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Where in my post did I even imply that I know what the President thinks. |
vaberella |
Oct-17-09 07:42 PM |
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May be because I was not aware you were missing the fact that Kerry is the head of the SFRC. |
Mass |
Oct-18-09 09:12 AM |
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Not what I said - I said no one IN that room knows the region and its history more than Kerry. |
blm |
Oct-18-09 09:04 AM |
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No, he is not, but, as the head of the SFRC, he is giving his opinion. |
Mass |
Oct-17-09 07:12 PM |
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Understood. Karynnj, just explained that to me. |
vaberella |
Oct-17-09 07:21 PM |
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Just as he said he would, even if he was not in agreement with President Obama |
karynnj |
Oct-17-09 07:24 PM |
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Separation of powers. He is a member of CONGRESS. Speaking his mind FROM Afghanistan. nt |
beachmom |
Oct-17-09 07:48 PM |
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Right this was explained to me by Karynnj and Mass explained...thank you. n/t |
vaberella |
Oct-17-09 08:14 PM |
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His opinion has been sought by the President. n/t |
wisteria |
Oct-17-09 09:34 PM |
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Yeah, it's been stated by 2 people before and I gave them the credit for it. |
vaberella |
Oct-17-09 09:46 PM |
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I Just Watched The Movie "Lions For Lambs" & Posted My Comment Under |
ChiciB1 |
Oct-18-09 11:09 AM |
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I just saw this - you beat all of us JK group people here! |
karynnj |
Oct-17-09 03:34 PM |
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Exactly - it forces McChrystal to be responsible for HIS OWN WORDS of caution. |
blm |
Oct-17-09 04:29 PM |
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As an advisor and ally of the Prez, I don't like to see him trying to box Obama in. |
TwilightGardener |
Oct-17-09 03:45 PM |
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I don't think he is boxing Obama in |
TayTay |
Oct-17-09 04:06 PM |
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He can certainly give his opinion on the troop increase in less-judgmental terms. |
TwilightGardener |
Oct-17-09 04:12 PM |
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The CNN interview has been excerpted partially. Let's see it in context tomorrow. nt |
beachmom |
Oct-17-09 07:51 PM |
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How do you know that this is not done to make a solid case for the direction Obama wants to take |
karynnj |
Oct-17-09 04:19 PM |
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I don't think he should make his case in private. |
ProSense |
Oct-17-09 07:19 PM |
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MAYBE If Someone HAD Advised LBJ Way Back When... He Wouldn't Have |
ChiciB1 |
Oct-18-09 11:15 AM |
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Exactly right. Do we WANT Obama kicking himself in the ass 2 or 20yrs from now because he listened |
blm |
Oct-19-09 08:32 AM |
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Unless of course this is what Pres. Obama was thinking also. |
wisteria |
Oct-18-09 08:38 PM |
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K&R. I agree. |
Overseas |
Oct-17-09 03:52 PM |
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K&R Thank you, John. |
Jakes Progress |
Oct-17-09 03:54 PM |
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Thank you, Sen. Kerry. |
bigwillq |
Oct-17-09 04:00 PM |
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Kick for |
politicasista |
Oct-17-09 04:21 PM |
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why would they? Obama probably WANTS Kerry to stand tough on this to rein in the hawks |
blm |
Oct-17-09 04:26 PM |
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No, I mean his most ardent supporters here at DU |
politicasista |
Oct-17-09 04:32 PM |
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Actually, Kerry is cleverly using McChrystal's own words to make the point. No doubt Obama is aware |
blm |
Oct-17-09 04:46 PM |
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I am sure Obama is aware of that |
politicasista |
Oct-17-09 04:49 PM |
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I 2nd that kick |
ObamaKerryDem |
Oct-17-09 04:55 PM |
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Kerry has never held a meeting with McChrystal. Why? |
harkadog |
Oct-17-09 05:02 PM |
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He met with him the other day in Afghanistan. n/t |
wisteria |
Oct-17-09 05:38 PM |
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I am talking about a Senate hearing with his committee. |
harkadog |
Oct-17-09 05:45 PM |
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Read my quote from Lugar - invitations were declined by the Obama administartion |
karynnj |
Oct-17-09 08:35 PM |
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Kerry met with McChrystal this week - that is why he was in Afghanistan |
karynnj |
Oct-17-09 07:16 PM |
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None of the hearings have included the commander. |
harkadog |
Oct-17-09 08:28 PM |
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Speak to the Obama administration |
karynnj |
Oct-17-09 08:47 PM |
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I did "bother" to see one of the hearings |
harkadog |
Oct-17-09 09:13 PM |
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Sorry, it appeared to me that you were implying that he intentionally |
karynnj |
Oct-17-09 09:31 PM |
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Not sure the prez will appreciate his choice of words. nt |
polichick |
Oct-17-09 05:23 PM |
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We shall see |
politicasista |
Oct-17-09 05:29 PM |
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Do you have a link to that? I read J & J from time to time, but |
beachmom |
Oct-17-09 07:55 PM |
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That's ok |
politicasista |
Oct-17-09 08:05 PM |
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Ah, it is possible to have people playing and inside and outside role |
TayTay |
Oct-17-09 10:26 PM |
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That makes sense |
politicasista |
Oct-19-09 03:38 PM |
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I don't know. I think it is a liberal site that is for the public option. |
beachmom |
Oct-18-09 01:14 PM |
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You're right |
politicasista |
Oct-19-09 03:43 PM |
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Why wouldn't he? Kerry has a responsibility to be frank. |
ProSense |
Oct-17-09 07:23 PM |
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A man of his own mind. This is a practical approach in a time of turmoil. n/t |
wisteria |
Oct-17-09 05:37 PM |
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Apparently Kerry has been left out if the loop. Rumor has it they are |
The_Casual_Observer |
Oct-17-09 06:18 PM |
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Or, Kerry objects strongly to it and it pro-actively putting out a very strong statement against it |
karynnj |
Oct-17-09 07:21 PM |
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Or the rumor is wrong, and pushed by people who try to make it a fait accompli. |
Mass |
Oct-17-09 07:27 PM |
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He hasn't - and in the article I quoted - it said that he wanted |
karynnj |
Oct-17-09 08:23 PM |
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Great comments from Senator Kerry. n/t |
wisteria |
Oct-17-09 09:47 PM |
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I'm thrilled that Kerry and Biden are speaking out. This is EXACTLY what we need. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Oct-18-09 08:19 AM |
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Highly doubtful that Kerry would be out of... |
YvonneCa |
Oct-17-09 09:12 PM |
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Where is that rumor coming from? And, if there is any truth to it, |
wisteria |
Oct-17-09 09:45 PM |
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Good. |
bvar22 |
Oct-17-09 07:43 PM |
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Good for Kerry. |
burning rain |
Oct-17-09 08:07 PM |
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Wow, food fight!!! |
Beacool |
Oct-17-09 08:35 PM |
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What a bizarre response. n/t |
ProSense |
Oct-17-09 08:42 PM |
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"food fight"??? |
karynnj |
Oct-17-09 09:36 PM |
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No, it's my response to the back and forth between some of you. |
Beacool |
Oct-17-09 09:53 PM |
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In general, it was pretty civilized |
karynnj |
Oct-17-09 09:59 PM |
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I think that someone was told to STFU, but it was deleted. |
Beacool |
Oct-17-09 10:04 PM |
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I know but in a thread with over 70 comments, that really doesn't make it a food fight |
karynnj |
Oct-17-09 10:17 PM |
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I think that as many others have found before, Afghanistan is a losing proposition. |
Beacool |
Oct-17-09 10:24 PM |
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I see nothing amusing about this post. n/t |
wisteria |
Oct-17-09 09:49 PM |
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I like VP Biden's strategy for Afghanistan |
Garam_Masala |
Oct-17-09 08:58 PM |
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Biden, like Kerry have a better assessment and experience to back up their strategy and opinions. |
wisteria |
Oct-17-09 09:51 PM |
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I have to agree with Senator Kerry |
TheKentuckian |
Oct-17-09 09:27 PM |
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Video |
ProSense |
Oct-17-09 09:44 PM |
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Thanks ProSense. He makes so much sense. n/t |
wisteria |
Oct-17-09 09:56 PM |
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Very interesting |
Inuca |
Oct-18-09 01:21 AM |
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Hooray . . .!!! |
defendandprotect |
Oct-18-09 09:34 AM |
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Kerry and Biden are the two people I am glad are on the President's |
Kdillard |
Oct-18-09 09:41 AM |
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Yes, I totally agree. They both have a lot of experience and insight to offer Obama right now. |
Jennicut |
Oct-18-09 10:03 AM |
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Rahm Emanuel Said Basically the Same Thing on State of the Union |
PopSixSquish |
Oct-18-09 10:46 AM |
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Afghanistan = Mega FAIL! nt |
and-justice-for-all |
Oct-18-09 11:24 AM |
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Kerry is providing cover for Obama's soon to be announced decision |
Aramchek |
Oct-18-09 01:24 PM |
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You a very astute! n/t |
rtassi |
Oct-18-09 01:37 PM |
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I hope you are right |
karynnj |
Oct-18-09 04:02 PM |
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It is irresponsible to keep our troops in Afghanistan at all |
IndianaGreen |
Oct-18-09 01:44 PM |
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The CBS interview was strong |
karynnj |
Oct-18-09 07:46 PM |
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NYTimes sees it differently. |
Mass |
Oct-18-09 06:20 PM |
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I guess we all see what we want to see. nt |
beachmom |
Oct-18-09 07:36 PM |
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The NYT is not even internally consistent, here is their other article currently up on |
karynnj |
Oct-18-09 07:41 PM |
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The NYT misses the mark on this, at this time I would say Sen. Kerry is noncommittal to more troops. |
wisteria |
Oct-18-09 08:34 PM |
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I agree - he is still speaking of strategy |
karynnj |
Oct-18-09 08:46 PM |
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Good for Kerry. |
Vidar |
Oct-19-09 06:06 AM |
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+1 |
joeycola |
Oct-19-09 08:40 AM |
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