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Reply #56: "Can I Vent?" You sure as hell can! [View All]

SeattleGirl

(1000+ posts)

Wed Oct-14-09 01:46 AM
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56. "Can I Vent?" You sure as hell can!

I can identify with this so much. I'm sick of some of the crap I read from the left. Is Obama perfect? Hell no. But there are some on the left who seem to expect him to be perfect. Does he deserve criticism? Yep, he does. But screaming at the top of ones lungs 24/7, bitching constantly, and expecting that Obama was elected to office just to take care of your personal issue drives me crazy.

Everybody has things they want to see happen. Everybody has an issue that for them is number one. Everybody. And there ARE a lot of issues to deal with. And I DO think that people need to make their voices heard. They DO need to keep calling for the changes they want. But for those who throw tantrums when their issue doesn't get taken care of RIGHT NOW, I don't have much patience for you.

Obama is NOT a miracle worker, and the fact that he isn't doesn't mean he doesn't give a shit about your issue. It means that some changes, many changes in fact, take time. Obama is not the end all and be all; he doesn't run this ship by himself. If all you can do is bitch, you aren't helping. It's highly unlikely that Obama is going to come to you, perched upon high on your throne, and hand you what you want on a silver platter. If you want him to get his hands dirty, guess what? You have to get your hands dirty too.

(And FYI, like BooMan, my remarks are directed at the people guilty of what I'm talking about. They are not directed at everybody who has a cause or an issue that is of utmost importance to them. Many people ARE out there getting their hands dirty, fighting like mad for what's important to them. To you, I say, carry on!)

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BooMan Vents...	babylonsister	Oct-13-09 05:58 PM	#0
Spot on.	Connie_Corleone	Oct-13-09 06:03 PM	#1
Couldn't have said it better myself! Excellent.	Phx_Dem	Oct-13-09 06:04 PM	#2
100% . A few posters on DU came to mind in this article.	vaberella	Oct-13-09 06:10 PM	#3
Oh yeah, that's all I thought	Cha	Oct-13-09 06:54 PM	#22
It would be easy to name names of who exactly that post is talking about - and they have little	Pirate Smile	Oct-13-09 06:15 PM	#4
For the record	Xipe Totec	Oct-13-09 06:21 PM	#5
If you didn't do or say any of things he wrote about, then he wasn't talking to you.	Connie_Corleone	Oct-13-09 06:22 PM	#6
How about me?	Oregone	Oct-13-09 06:30 PM	#9
Well, one look at your sigline says it all.	Connie_Corleone	Oct-13-09 06:32 PM	#12
Aw, damn. You got me!	Oregone	Oct-13-09 06:35 PM	#15
No. It just makes you really old.	Connie_Corleone	Oct-13-09 06:37 PM	#17
You have no idea	Oregone	Oct-13-09 06:39 PM	#18
Well I guess an elder would be expected to lead	ampad	Oct-14-09 11:17 AM	#73
dining room table fer sure	pollo poco	Oct-14-09 01:47 PM	#94
It's called a joke. And I don't take a "crap" on old people.	Connie_Corleone	Oct-14-09 02:17 PM	#98
Referring to people as "cheerleaders" is not something an asshole would do.	Blue-Jay	Oct-13-09 08:42 PM	#46
Bash bash bash	pollo poco	Oct-14-09 01:43 PM	#92
He was talking to everybody who supported a different candidate during the primaries	Xipe Totec	Oct-14-09 02:21 PM	#100
I am with you on everything you said	spiritual_gunfighter	Oct-14-09 01:34 PM	#91
That's not what he is venting about. He is referring to the fact that	tblue37	Oct-14-09 02:21 PM	#99
I was responding to the post above mine	spiritual_gunfighter	Oct-14-09 02:53 PM	#103
If you supported Obama during the primaries... For the rest of you...	Xipe Totec	Oct-14-09 04:02 PM	#112
In other words, another STFU thread.	spoony	Oct-13-09 06:23 PM	#7
And do you ever give him credit, for anything? nt	babylonsister	Oct-13-09 06:28 PM	#8
Yes, I do.	spoony	Oct-13-09 06:31 PM	#11
I don't much care what you've posted, but if you're going to scold	babylonsister	Oct-13-09 06:34 PM	#14
He has a great smile, you know	Oregone	Oct-13-09 06:33 PM	#13
don't worry, if they get tired of it, I'll step in to scold you too.	Teaser	Oct-13-09 07:03 PM	#27
Deal.	spoony	Oct-13-09 07:13 PM	#31
No, can't you read what boo said?	Cha	Oct-13-09 07:05 PM	#29
You mean the kind of respect that defines all criticism as whining?	spoony	Oct-13-09 07:10 PM	#30
When there is disrepect ..you can believe I	Cha	Oct-13-09 07:17 PM	#33
Did you even read it?	CakeGrrl	Oct-13-09 08:13 PM	#41
Thank you. nt	babylonsister	Oct-13-09 08:42 PM	#45
Oh, the irony.	spoony	Oct-14-09 12:19 AM	#50
I believe it was posted here because the symptoms are much in evidence here	CakeGrrl	Oct-14-09 01:34 AM	#55
Silenced! LOL	ampad	Oct-14-09 11:25 AM	#74
I know, right?	CakeGrrl	Oct-14-09 12:15 PM	#83
This whole GD vs GD-P war is so goddamned stupid I can't even believe there are so many	Number23	Oct-14-09 09:10 PM	#138
Thank you nt	spiritual_gunfighter	Oct-14-09 03:39 PM	#104
Another one who can dish it out heapingly, but can't take it. Surprise, surprise. NOT!	Tarheel_Dem	Oct-13-09 08:24 PM	#42
Dish what out?	spoony	Oct-14-09 12:10 AM	#49
Props to BooMan...That's how the real terrorists win	BeyondGeography	Oct-13-09 06:30 PM	#10
Yeah, um, we got to fight em over there so they, uhh...	Oregone	Oct-13-09 06:36 PM	#16
Wasting energy amongst ourselves over Aravosis and Hamsher-inspired bullshit	BeyondGeography	Oct-13-09 06:54 PM	#21
Hey, don't yell at me. A terrorist just won a round of Kanasta	Oregone	Oct-13-09 06:58 PM	#24
Yeah, I was on hamsher's email list	Cha	Oct-13-09 07:01 PM	#26
What I don't get about her is that she has her own site fire dog lake	Engineer4Obama	Oct-13-09 07:20 PM	#34
It is slimey..that's the way I feel about	Cha	Oct-13-09 07:24 PM	#36
Here and there	Engineer4Obama	Oct-13-09 07:34 PM	#37
Yay.	Cha	Oct-13-09 07:50 PM	#38
love it. NT	Clio the Leo	Oct-13-09 06:47 PM	#19
I know..it's all about Respect and if	Cha	Oct-13-09 06:53 PM	#20
thanks, Boo. Some of these people need to be told to STFU.	HopeOverFear	Oct-13-09 06:57 PM	#23
That reminds me VERY much of the sort of thing I heard during the Clinton administration	depakid	Oct-14-09 01:30 AM	#54
It is reminding me a lot of the	spiritual_gunfighter	Oct-14-09 03:45 PM	#105
Wrong..	butterfly77	Oct-14-09 04:25 PM	#115
Usually it is	spiritual_gunfighter	Oct-14-09 04:30 PM	#116
Excellent, and as was said, spot-on.	CakeGrrl	Oct-13-09 07:01 PM	#25
Yeah, as soon as I figured out that the remark was more	beachmom	Oct-13-09 07:05 PM	#28
K&R	Engineer4Obama	Oct-13-09 07:15 PM	#32
Primary Rehash	ruggerson	Oct-13-09 07:23 PM	#35
No, but it's not surprising you	Cha	Oct-13-09 07:51 PM	#39
I got that out of it because that's exactly what it is	ruggerson	Oct-13-09 07:55 PM	#40
No it isn't..it's about	Cha	Oct-14-09 05:07 PM	#123
What about this is unclear?	ruggerson	Oct-14-09 06:12 PM	#133
gee what a shock	dsc	Oct-18-09 12:33 AM	#170
It is very telling	spiritual_gunfighter	Oct-14-09 03:47 PM	#106
Booman is right on point. (nt)	Tarheel_Dem	Oct-13-09 08:25 PM	#43
HOT DAMN!!!!!!	uponit7771	Oct-13-09 08:37 PM	#44
Good Lord, somebody should have said this MONTHS ago.	Number23	Oct-13-09 10:28 PM	#47
And, they can say it again ..ad infinitum	Cha	Oct-13-09 10:50 PM	#48
Wow- this guy reminds me of why I chose not to get on the bandwagon	depakid	Oct-14-09 12:26 AM	#51
+10	Myrina	Oct-14-09 10:18 AM	#63
+20	Toasterlad	Oct-14-09 11:38 AM	#78
+30	spiritual_gunfighter	Oct-14-09 03:56 PM	#109
I understand how Booman feels....	FrenchieCat	Oct-14-09 12:53 AM	#52
And, this was way back	Cha	Oct-14-09 01:17 AM	#53
"Can I Vent?" You sure as hell can!	SeattleGirl	Oct-14-09 01:46 AM	#56
Good post, SG. Even if the prez did approach some people	babylonsister	Oct-14-09 09:20 AM	#60
Booman is being a bit Britney in his rant	spiritual_gunfighter	Oct-14-09 04:21 PM	#113
I don't share your opinion.	SeattleGirl	Oct-14-09 05:11 PM	#124
The clip isnt of Chris Crocker	spiritual_gunfighter	Oct-14-09 06:08 PM	#132
I've seen Fahrenheit 9/11 several times, so I'm aware of that clip.	SeattleGirl	Oct-15-09 02:28 PM	#148
K & R	liquid diamond	Oct-14-09 02:10 AM	#57
Who is BooMan? n/t	Starry Messenger	Oct-14-09 03:07 AM	#58
A very important question.	Bluenorthwest	Oct-14-09 09:58 AM	#61
Well said!	Myrina	Oct-14-09 10:23 AM	#64
Thank you Bluenorthwest.	Starry Messenger	Oct-14-09 10:55 AM	#70
+3	Toasterlad	Oct-14-09 11:43 AM	#79
Don't know who the BooHooMan is, but HE takes things too personally.	change_notfinetuning	Oct-14-09 11:09 AM	#72
Booman is Britney Spears	spiritual_gunfighter	Oct-14-09 04:00 PM	#111
K&R. I don't know who BooMan is but I love the way he thinks!	Kind of Blue	Oct-14-09 05:35 AM	#59
I 100% agree with all of this, with the tiny exception of one phrase:	rvablue	Oct-14-09 10:14 AM	#62
can we contribute to the debate if we supported Obama from day 1 but think he's off the mark now?	AnarchoFreeThinker	Oct-14-09 10:25 AM	#65
Thanks for posting	ampad	Oct-14-09 10:33 AM	#66
Ok, I generally don't speak out on these "vents" on Obama from either side, but	madmom	Oct-14-09 10:33 AM	#67
Deleted message	Name removed	Oct-14-09 10:36 AM	#68
I wish I could rec this post	ampad	Oct-14-09 11:32 AM	#76
You wish you couldl recommend a post that so denigrated gays and lesbians that the mods deleted it?	ruggerson	Oct-14-09 06:06 PM	#130
"The guy is a sane, intelligent hetrosexual man with a happy family"	Toasterlad	Oct-14-09 11:37 AM	#77
This thread is populated	ruggerson	Oct-14-09 06:07 PM	#131
It Sure the Hell Is	Toasterlad	Oct-15-09 08:14 AM	#140
FYI..showing respect does NOT mean kneeling down to or kowtowing to. That is all.	madmom	Oct-14-09 10:42 AM	#69
But it does mean not calling Obama "Bush's Third Term", as some DUers have.	Nicholas D Wolfwood	Oct-14-09 03:54 PM	#108
I was an early Obama supporter, but I've never seen anyone win at chess by	change_notfinetuning	Oct-14-09 11:02 AM	#71
The President Works for ME. I Don't Work For Him.	Toasterlad	Oct-14-09 11:30 AM	#75
hell FUCKING yes. thanks, Toasterlad.	AnarchoFreeThinker	Oct-14-09 11:46 AM	#80
He works for the USA. Not YOU.	treestar	Oct-14-09 01:44 PM	#93
Guess Who Lives In the USA?	Toasterlad	Oct-14-09 01:47 PM	#95
The "USA" like a corporation, is not a sentient thing.	spoony	Oct-14-09 07:46 PM	#137
unless your not his constituent.	mkultra	Oct-15-09 01:58 PM	#147
By Definition, All Americans Are the President's Constituents	Toasterlad	Oct-15-09 02:51 PM	#149
and by definition, a consituent is someone who authorizes another to represent him.	mkultra	Oct-16-09 11:34 AM	#155
Deleted message	Name removed	Oct-16-09 01:12 PM	#158
yeah, this is where this argument loses traction	mkultra	Oct-16-09 04:01 PM	#160
Deleted message	Name removed	Oct-16-09 04:55 PM	#161
I know that lashing out at everyone who doesnt agree with you is your bag	mkultra	Oct-16-09 05:53 PM	#163
You Have No Gay Friends	Toasterlad	Oct-16-09 08:22 PM	#164
well, as a metter of fact	mkultra	Oct-17-09 04:13 PM	#166
Thanks for playing. nt	Flying Dream Blues	Oct-15-09 04:39 PM	#151
if you didnt elect Obama, he is not going to advance your views	mkultra	Oct-16-09 11:35 AM	#156
That made no sense whatsoever.	PassingFair	Oct-14-09 12:00 PM	#81
Was it in "Devil and Daniel Webster"	Jakes Progress	Oct-14-09 05:43 PM	#128
Great post	Cheney Killed Bambi	Oct-14-09 12:05 PM	#82
This is sad. This rant isn't accurate. Love the part of the 'robust public option'	debbierlus	Oct-14-09 12:25 PM	#84
I have a "sense of entitlement"	Duncan	Oct-14-09 12:38 PM	#85
Obama never was my first choice. I have had to fight all my life, and	JDPriestly	Oct-14-09 12:51 PM	#86
Author doesn't have very solid arguments	Kermitt Gribble	Oct-14-09 01:04 PM	#87
+10	kestrel91316	Oct-14-09 01:15 PM	#88
Yep - K&R	cliffordu	Oct-14-09 01:22 PM	#89
So nice to see authoritarianism alive and well	Prism	Oct-14-09 01:23 PM	#90
That's why I kept my sig pic after the election.	Starry Messenger	Oct-14-09 02:04 PM	#96
so fucking wrongheaded it disgusts me that anyone would support it.	tomp	Oct-14-09 02:15 PM	#97
So why are you here? (nt)	Nicholas D Wolfwood	Oct-14-09 03:56 PM	#110
tomp is here for the same reason the rest of us are here.	Kermitt Gribble	Oct-14-09 04:56 PM	#121
That sounds like 100% disagreement.	Nicholas D Wolfwood	Oct-15-09 07:33 AM	#139
Glad you don't get to make the rules here.	Kermitt Gribble	Oct-15-09 10:21 AM	#141
I wouldn't mind joining a site that did find it acceptable to call Obama "Bush's Third Term"	Nicholas D Wolfwood	Oct-15-09 01:28 PM	#142
not to support obama or booman. nt	tomp	Oct-16-09 11:59 AM	#157
Hmm. "Obamaphiles". Don't let the door hit ya! n/t	CakeGrrl	Oct-14-09 04:39 PM	#118
Okay..never did expect it..not with the disrespect	Cha	Oct-14-09 05:05 PM	#122
are you voting for McCain this time too?	mkultra	Oct-15-09 01:56 PM	#146
Are you saying Obama does not want my vote in 2012??	MNDemNY	Oct-14-09 02:46 PM	#101
Never Fear, They'll Be Groveling For Your Vote In 2012.	Toasterlad	Oct-14-09 02:52 PM	#102
No, they won't.	Lilith Velkor	Oct-14-09 03:52 PM	#107
Hmm. You're Probably Right.	Toasterlad	Oct-14-09 05:16 PM	#126
yeash, because your threats to vote for McCain really scared us last time	mkultra	Oct-15-09 01:55 PM	#145
Never Threatened Once To Vote For McCain, So You Should Stop Lying.	Toasterlad	Oct-15-09 03:02 PM	#150
"I would vote for him 100 times before I'd vote for Clinton or Obama."	mkultra	Oct-16-09 05:37 PM	#162
I Notice You Left Off the Part Where I Said "I can't in good conscience vote for McCain"	Toasterlad	Oct-16-09 08:27 PM	#165
ahh cognitive dissonance is fun	mkultra	Oct-17-09 04:17 PM	#167
you out and out lied about what that poster said	dsc	Oct-18-09 12:48 AM	#171
his post speaks for itself	mkultra	Oct-19-09 01:05 PM	#172
No he didn't	dsc	Oct-19-09 04:42 PM	#174
i quoted him directly out of his own post verbatim.	mkultra	Oct-19-09 08:04 PM	#175
Plus the fact that..	butterfly77	Oct-14-09 04:22 PM	#114
Yes, how DARE you demand that Obama keep his promises.	Cowpunk	Oct-14-09 04:39 PM	#117
Do you seriously think that..	butterfly77	Oct-14-09 05:13 PM	#125
You pick up this strawman stuff quick NT	Cowpunk	Oct-14-09 07:18 PM	#136
The BooMan Speaketh a Righteous Rant. Thumbs up. nt	quiet.american	Oct-14-09 04:51 PM	#119
This former Hillary gal agrees...	JuniperLea	Oct-14-09 04:56 PM	#120
Huge strawman. nt	daedalus_dude	Oct-14-09 05:24 PM	#127
Strawman... ooooo... Now this... if Obama & the dems don't deliver on health care...	Piewhacket	Oct-14-09 06:03 PM	#129
Spoken like someone who's been sitting in on	CakeGrrl	Oct-14-09 06:16 PM	#134
good luck. We didnt need you for this one and we dont next time either	mkultra	Oct-15-09 01:54 PM	#144
I made no threat. Perhaps "we", that is, imperious "you", needs glasses?	Piewhacket	Oct-15-09 08:57 PM	#153
President Obama is busy and you're	Cha	Oct-19-09 08:30 PM	#176
BooMan versus StrawMan	rucky	Oct-14-09 06:35 PM	#135
yup. At some point, you must decide that you don't need friends who act like enemies	mkultra	Oct-15-09 01:52 PM	#143
++++++1	HopeOverFear	Oct-15-09 04:46 PM	#152
er... "the way you act"??? who are you two talking to? the air?	Piewhacket	Oct-15-09 09:03 PM	#154
Deleted message	Name removed	Oct-16-09 01:21 PM	#159
Okay, so...we should stay home in 2012 because we're not welcome anymore?	Lyric	Oct-17-09 04:38 PM	#168
Impressive rant with many good points. Pass the butter, please	Hekate	Oct-17-09 10:14 PM	#169
Beautiful!!	Dawgs	Oct-19-09 02:44 PM	#173

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