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Sun Oct-11-09 12:39 PM
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| 27. "Centrists" are often ideological extremists as well |
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And those who can not accept criticism of a political party or leader are most certainly ideological extremists.
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| -Ms. Huffington And Her Flock Again Need A Reality Check |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 11:22 AM |
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"Ultra-leftists"? |
YOY |
Oct-11-09 11:25 AM |
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Well, yeah. "Liberal" is mainstream. But, sorry, some are just too far out there. |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 11:33 AM |
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Yep, we have a lot of extreme leftists in our party |
ericgtr |
Oct-11-09 11:38 AM |
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Ideological extremism is dangerous regardless of which side of the spectrum. |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 11:43 AM |
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"Centrists" are often ideological extremists as well |
Bjorn Against |
Oct-11-09 12:39 PM |
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Read again. I do some criticizing. But incessant bitching and bashing is insane, plain and simple. |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 01:25 PM |
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You have done plenty of incessant bashing in this thread. |
Bjorn Against |
Oct-11-09 01:34 PM |
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Calling out Obama bashers isn't bashing. It is reality checking. They are counter productive |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 01:45 PM |
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So you formed your own circular firing squad ... |
bvar22 |
Oct-11-09 02:36 PM |
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No. Just sticking to what I stand for..as a Democrat who has worked quite hard enough. |
YOY |
Oct-11-09 03:14 PM |
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You may want to reread that, that post was not a response to yours |
Bjorn Against |
Oct-11-09 03:32 PM |
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Sorry. Ignore my stupidity above. |
YOY |
Oct-11-09 04:42 PM |
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The Democratic wing of the Democratic party supports Democrats once in office too, unlike Huffing- |
RBInMaine |
Oct-12-09 12:00 PM |
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sure, and war is peace right? |
mkultra |
Oct-11-09 02:04 PM |
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No, but that is what the "centrists" who supported the war in Iraq want us to believe |
Bjorn Against |
Oct-11-09 02:27 PM |
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i see, your just confused |
mkultra |
Oct-12-09 02:28 PM |
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It's not a matter of not accepting criticism. It's defending the guy we helped get elected |
Arkana |
Oct-11-09 02:35 PM |
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today's duke reveals he doesn't get enough fiber. what an utter failure of a president.. |
dionysus |
Oct-11-09 06:05 PM |
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Thanks, Yes, for Christ sake let's support this guy and give him a chance ! |
RBInMaine |
Oct-12-09 12:17 PM |
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We extreme leftists in our party, whatever that is, but they are not as influential |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Oct-13-09 08:25 AM |
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Yes there are...and these aren't them. |
YOY |
Oct-11-09 11:46 AM |
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Got a better term? Obama bashers like Huffy are the wankers. Enter reality. |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 11:52 AM |
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Funny. Your "reality" sounds so familiar... |
YOY |
Oct-11-09 11:57 AM |
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WRONG ! Actually moderate independents elect Presidents and many others. This is exactly where |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 01:30 PM |
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You need the votes from the left as well, if you don't have their votes and activism you lose. |
Bjorn Against |
Oct-11-09 01:33 PM |
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But the indys swing it all one way or another. And, once we win, we show some SUPPORT !! |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 01:36 PM |
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Sounds "sheeplike". Yet you call those "ultra-leftists" "Huffington's flock" |
YOY |
Oct-11-09 01:43 PM |
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You DO NOT work to elect people and then commence to bash them. They need to quit it ! |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 01:59 PM |
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You say "bash" and I say discuss and criticize. |
YOY |
Oct-11-09 03:00 PM |
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It isn't one group that swings the election, all voters swing the election |
Bjorn Against |
Oct-11-09 01:47 PM |
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I am only "beating up" on those who bash Dems we worked so hard to elect. Think again. |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 01:55 PM |
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Try poli-sci 101 at your local community college. That may help. |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 01:56 PM |
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I not only have taken poli-sci, I am out in the streets every single week |
Bjorn Against |
Oct-11-09 01:59 PM |
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Re-read my OP. Did the poli-sci prof. cover election stats? Indys are the swing voters. |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 02:07 PM |
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Yes they did, and they told me that everyone's vote counts the same. |
Bjorn Against |
Oct-11-09 02:14 PM |
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I have a doctorate in political science and you are wrong. |
mkultra |
Oct-11-09 02:09 PM |
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I live in the state that elected Wellstone, he got his base motivated. |
Bjorn Against |
Oct-11-09 02:13 PM |
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i know that this isnt really true |
mkultra |
Oct-11-09 03:53 PM |
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Thank you. Nationally, the middle swings it, just as it did in 06 and 08. Now, |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 02:43 PM |
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Huffington "beat up" on MY President today, and I am sick of THAT. |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 01:58 PM |
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No "ultra-leftists" don't vote Green, they support Stalinism |
Bjorn Against |
Oct-11-09 12:41 PM |
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Green? And how many seats in congress do they have? Many are damn flaky in Maine. |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 01:38 PM |
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That's just it. We don't HAVE "ultra leftists." The Greens are about as left as you can get here. |
YOY |
Oct-11-09 01:45 PM |
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Maybe far-left is better? Don't get hung up on semantics. You get the point. And |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 01:53 PM |
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That's just it. It's not the fringe. They vote and they vote democratic. |
YOY |
Oct-11-09 03:02 PM |
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Good. So let them support the people they vote for once in office. |
RBInMaine |
Oct-12-09 11:43 AM |
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i prefer the new term; Leftbeckian |
mkultra |
Oct-11-09 03:57 PM |
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That's putting it |
Cha |
Oct-11-09 12:09 PM |
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I noticed many posters at HuffPo are also wondering what her |
monmouth |
Oct-11-09 11:26 AM |
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Thank you for that, monmouth~ Thankfully, |
Cha |
Oct-11-09 01:46 PM |
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For all her "liberal" thinkings at time...I still think she's a right-winger overall. |
vaberella |
Oct-11-09 01:48 PM |
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Ms. huffington is a fraud who trys to walk the walk and talk the talk, but she is just another |
still_one |
Oct-11-09 11:28 AM |
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Its pretty clear to me that Huffington really isnt interested in policy |
Uzybone |
Oct-11-09 11:29 AM |
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She seems to have pretty minimal detailed policy knowledge. And the Obama bashing is just IGNORANT ! |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 11:39 AM |
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Excellent post, but I don't think bashing Arianna is the way to go. |
Faygo Kid |
Oct-11-09 11:30 AM |
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No, her (and some others) bashing Obama is NOT the way to go. |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 11:34 AM |
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Yup-she even said it was wrong of him to go to Copenhagen to try to |
jenmito |
Oct-11-09 11:31 AM |
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Well that made me done with her---for real. n/t |
vaberella |
Oct-11-09 02:00 PM |
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"Working on/pending/on the way" |
DireStrike |
Oct-11-09 11:37 AM |
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BS ! Unless you too are so out of reality that you think it can all be done instantly. |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 11:40 AM |
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They don't have to be done instantly |
DireStrike |
Oct-11-09 03:21 PM |
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Trying, attempting, working toward he right end is worthy of credit. |
RBInMaine |
Oct-12-09 11:54 AM |
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I applaud those who refuse to accept middle of the road policies |
DJ13 |
Oct-11-09 11:46 AM |
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Then you applaud ZERO progress. Read your civics. Read your history. Enter reality. |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 11:51 AM |
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Then you applaud ZERO progress. |
DJ13 |
Oct-11-09 12:05 PM |
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A few things for your list |
ProSense |
Oct-11-09 11:47 AM |
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Thanks ! Huffy should be touting all this, not attacking Obama. |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 11:54 AM |
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She's in the wanker category. She's lying |
Cha |
Oct-11-09 12:12 PM |
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Uh, the medical marijuana raids continue. |
Flaneur |
Oct-11-09 03:27 PM |
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Her flock? wow nt |
asdjrocky |
Oct-11-09 11:57 AM |
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Hopefully it is a small flock. |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 01:41 PM |
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You're rude, which matters little. |
asdjrocky |
Oct-11-09 02:17 PM |
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YOU are rude and delusional if you think you can help Dems by attacking their |
RBInMaine |
Oct-12-09 11:46 AM |
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Like Bill Maher, Huffington and, perhaps Daily Kos |
question everything |
Oct-11-09 12:04 PM |
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Yeah. Enough of that shit. I like Maher and Kos generally, but don't bash Obama. That's overboard. |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 01:40 PM |
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Her latest crap is calling on Rangel to resign immediately |
Uzybone |
Oct-11-09 12:24 PM |
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I think the Dem leaders best get this ethics investigation |
joeycola |
Oct-11-09 12:42 PM |
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I agree... check the outstanding charges against Rangel |
JCMach1 |
Oct-11-09 02:09 PM |
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By now y'all should have realized what makes Ariana tick |
Garam_Masala |
Oct-11-09 12:45 PM |
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Yeah, the MO of all mediawhores..too lazy to think of a |
Cha |
Oct-11-09 01:51 PM |
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If you can't accept that some people are going to disagree with your candidate you are the extremist |
Bjorn Against |
Oct-11-09 12:55 PM |
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Candidacy is OVER. He is the President now. Only insanity allows one to think he or she can get |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 01:23 PM |
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No one said they expect everything |
Bjorn Against |
Oct-11-09 01:31 PM |
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Dissent dissent dissent dissent.... does it ever end? Is there one positive syllable? |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 01:33 PM |
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I have said plenty of positive things about Obama in the past |
Bjorn Against |
Oct-11-09 01:41 PM |
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Read the rules. We are to support Dems on this forum. Your unending "dissent" only helps the |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 01:48 PM |
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I voted for Obama and I have read the rules |
Bjorn Against |
Oct-11-09 02:01 PM |
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So why not pour your "dissent" energy into attacking RePUKES instead of your own? Why heap on Obama? |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 02:04 PM |
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I am willing to bet that I have poured far more energy into attacking Republicans than you have |
Bjorn Against |
Oct-11-09 02:10 PM |
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I am NOT attacking "the left", only calling into reality those who spend most of their time |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 02:19 PM |
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Actually, you are WRONG about this too. |
bvar22 |
Oct-11-09 06:36 PM |
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All you did was confirm what I said. I said, "the spirit of the rules" meaning the obvious intent |
RBInMaine |
Oct-12-09 11:41 AM |
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Still wrong. |
bvar22 |
Oct-12-09 12:15 PM |
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I think in another response I said "spirit" or "intent" of the rules, but if not here then |
RBInMaine |
Oct-12-09 12:39 PM |
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"Candidate"----Woah....I'm sensing someone is still smarting Obama won. |
vaberella |
Oct-11-09 01:46 PM |
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I voted and campaigned for President Obama |
Bjorn Against |
Oct-11-09 02:05 PM |
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Great and thanks, Now be so good as to thank him for all the damn good things he has done and is |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 02:11 PM |
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The Republicans sure don't think I am helping them, they have stuck the police on me |
Bjorn Against |
Oct-11-09 02:19 PM |
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Occasional "criticism" is one thing. Incessant Obama bashing is SHITTY and NEEDLESS ! |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 02:23 PM |
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And I have not engaged in "incessant Obama bashing" |
Bjorn Against |
Oct-11-09 02:36 PM |
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Huffington is out of reality in what she is saying about Obama's leadership and what is possible. If |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 02:49 PM |
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I agree with Huffington on some things and disagree with her on others |
Bjorn Against |
Oct-11-09 03:01 PM |
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Couldn't disagree more. I hope Arianna Huffington and all of the rest of US left-wing |
bertman |
Oct-11-09 01:10 PM |
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You do not reserve the right to bash Obama on DU. That helps the RePUKES as you wreck your own cause |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 01:21 PM |
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You say "bash" when, in fact, I am doing my duty as a citizen of this country to express |
bertman |
Oct-11-09 01:30 PM |
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So please list your satisfactions with Obama, as I have. Go ahead. Show me. |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 01:31 PM |
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I list my approval of President Obama in thread after thread on DU. I don't have to list |
bertman |
Oct-11-09 02:13 PM |
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I'm a dedicated Democrat who supports OUR President and is sick of extemists bashing him which only |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 02:27 PM |
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You sound like a Republican in your dedication to blindness in service of your political party. |
bertman |
Oct-11-09 04:31 PM |
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Boy, when you miss a point you miss it very thoroughly. No one is saying there should |
RBInMaine |
Oct-12-09 11:18 AM |
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You need to start your own message board. |
Flaneur |
Oct-11-09 03:31 PM |
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Re-Read the purpose of the site. Want to spend time bashing Dems, YOU can go to Freeper land. |
RBInMaine |
Oct-12-09 11:44 AM |
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Lying her ass off is not holding feet to the fire.. I don't call them |
Cha |
Oct-11-09 01:49 PM |
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I agree... as a progressive I am not about to sit down and shut up... |
JCMach1 |
Oct-11-09 02:11 PM |
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+1000 I am with JCMach1 |
bvar22 |
Oct-11-09 02:41 PM |
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+100...I'm With bertman... JMHO!! n/t |
ChiciB1 |
Oct-11-09 02:17 PM |
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Why don't you just admit you hate the left and get it over with? |
earth mom |
Oct-11-09 01:57 PM |
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Oh that's good. "Hate the left." Now you're channeling Rush Limbaugh-speak. Please read my OP |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 02:02 PM |
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I read your OP and it's full of shit. Huffington is honest & you can't handle the truth. |
earth mom |
Oct-11-09 02:22 PM |
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You're full of shit. Saying "Obama hasn't led..." is pure BS and you and she are outside reality. |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 02:25 PM |
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You obviously have a very closed & narrow little mind. Educate yourself before it's too late: |
earth mom |
Oct-11-09 02:26 PM |
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Please actually read and UNDERSTAND my OP thesis before you go off on me. |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 02:37 PM |
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Again, There is NOTHING extreme about wanting Peace, Health Care and Jobs with real wages. |
earth mom |
Oct-11-09 02:28 PM |
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Who said I was against peace? Please actually READ the thesis of the OP. It is about the counter- |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 02:35 PM |
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There is NO "thesis" in the OP. |
bvar22 |
Oct-11-09 02:44 PM |
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Bingo. nt |
earth mom |
Oct-11-09 02:48 PM |
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Silly and ignorant reply. |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 02:50 PM |
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No, the ignorant one is you. Have you watched that video yet? Probably not. |
earth mom |
Oct-11-09 03:01 PM |
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Thanks. |
bvar22 |
Oct-11-09 06:41 PM |
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Right back atcha! |
earth mom |
Oct-12-09 04:34 PM |
#142 |
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Watch the video. You'll see that Obama is listening to the banks/corporations who are bleeding |
earth mom |
Oct-11-09 02:47 PM |
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Wow. You must have ESP that you can see into one's mind. I know all about the "evils" of corporate |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-09 03:02 PM |
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Again, watch the video and then get back to me. nt |
earth mom |
Oct-11-09 03:06 PM |
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Obama started from a position of weakness on HCReform and it has |
joeycola |
Oct-11-09 03:15 PM |
#110 |
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Well, call me crazy and stupid then -- I've been hearing about "eventually" for too many decades |
Armstead |
Oct-11-09 02:53 PM |
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you might want to direct that towards the senate. i agree with your general point |
dionysus |
Oct-11-09 06:04 PM |
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I can't stand Arianna. She's Matt Drudge of the left. |
Phx_Dem |
Oct-11-09 06:13 PM |
#121 |
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Since she divorced her husband and quit being the darling |
rebel with a cause |
Oct-12-09 12:54 AM |
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What's wrong with being a white European immigrant? nt |
Honeycombe8 |
Oct-12-09 12:41 PM |
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Nothing unless you go on the tv and say that non white |
rebel with a cause |
Oct-12-09 07:36 PM |
#144 |
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If you're speaking of hispanics, they are white. Hispanic is an ethnicity. |
Honeycombe8 |
Oct-12-09 10:00 PM |
#145 |
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I hate to be the one to tell you this but Latinos are not all white. |
rebel with a cause |
Oct-12-09 10:23 PM |
#147 |
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"Hispanic" is an ethnicity. Some hispanics can have Indian blood (like some Mexicans), or other |
Honeycombe8 |
Oct-13-09 07:26 AM |
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Show me where I said Latino was a race. |
rebel with a cause |
Oct-13-09 01:52 PM |
#154 |
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Actually, there are biological differences between the races. It's a scientific |
Honeycombe8 |
Oct-14-09 12:45 PM |
#156 |
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Americans felt the same way about illegals when they were (white) Irish, (white) Germans, Chinese, |
Honeycombe8 |
Oct-13-09 07:29 AM |
#150 |
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Again, where did I mention race. |
rebel with a cause |
Oct-13-09 02:02 PM |
#155 |
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Agree to disagree. The law is king here. That is a good thing. Anyone wanting entry |
Honeycombe8 |
Oct-14-09 12:47 PM |
#157 |
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I say, we need all the Left we can get!....It's all good! |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Oct-12-09 11:29 AM |
#126 |
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NOT IF IT's LIES from the so called "left"...then they're |
Cha |
Oct-12-09 10:10 PM |
#146 |
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well, it's obvious you would know all about "flocks". nt |
jonnyblitz |
Oct-12-09 12:18 PM |
#135 |
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You are spot on, RB. Thanks for speaking for many of us. I'm pleased with O so far... |
Honeycombe8 |
Oct-12-09 12:40 PM |
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Thanks ! Hey, he's not perfect. But c'mon, one hell of a lot BETTER and he has earned our SUPPORT! |
RBInMaine |
Oct-12-09 12:53 PM |
#139 |
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2010 is a long way off so don't fear. We need to get healthcare, and we need to ATTACK R's |
RBInMaine |
Oct-12-09 12:54 PM |
#140 |
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you said much better than what I did in my "big boy pants" post |
PretzelWarrior |
Oct-12-09 04:51 PM |
#143 |
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Most people can't handle the reality of a representative democracy |
DatManFromNawlins |
Oct-12-09 11:40 PM |
#148 |
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She's just trying to make a buck, |
JNelson6563 |
Oct-13-09 07:38 AM |
#151 |
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You can be as sick as you like. |
LWolf |
Oct-13-09 07:40 AM |
#152 |
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