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Thu Oct-08-09 08:37 PM
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| 54. really? Well the so called "practical language isn't just language. It is killing people. |
| -A state opt-out PO sounds too good to be true. What am I missing? |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Oct-08-09 04:23 PM |
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Getting attacked for defending it. I was. Of course, we all DESERVE |
valerief |
Oct-08-09 04:24 PM |
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And, Dean said he would vote for it if he were |
Cha |
Oct-08-09 09:52 PM |
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"What am I missing?" - Nothing. |
BlooInBloo |
Oct-08-09 04:25 PM |
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lollercaust? |
mdmc |
Oct-08-09 04:42 PM |
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A very common internet-ism, meaning "something that is really really funny"... |
BlooInBloo |
Oct-08-09 04:53 PM |
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thank you kindly |
mdmc |
Oct-08-09 05:10 PM |
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Lollercaust... |
cliffordu |
Oct-08-09 04:47 PM |
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Aw shit - that's old - had I realized it wasn't well-known here, I woulda used it earlier... |
BlooInBloo |
Oct-08-09 04:49 PM |
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lollapallooza??? |
cliffordu |
Oct-08-09 07:51 PM |
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Exactly like that! |
BlooInBloo |
Oct-08-09 09:52 PM |
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Plenty of us are for it. nt |
SPedigrees |
Oct-08-09 04:28 PM |
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Don't give it away before forcing people to vote against it |
CreekDog |
Oct-08-09 04:30 PM |
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It's very clever in that if Repubs dont vote it literally says they are NOT for the people in anyway |
quantass |
Oct-08-09 04:34 PM |
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It allows them |
hileeopnyn8d |
Oct-08-09 04:37 PM |
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It's DU. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-08-09 04:39 PM |
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It's the yogurt, dammit. That ruins The Whole Thing!!!! Why can't you SEE that???? |
DevonRex |
Oct-08-09 04:45 PM |
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Not to mention |
ellie |
Oct-08-09 04:54 PM |
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DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD DO TO THE ENVIRONMENT! |
Engineer4Obama |
Oct-08-09 04:54 PM |
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If someone represented a state/district where "Obamacare" was unpopular..... |
Clio the Leo |
Oct-08-09 04:43 PM |
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Yup, yup. That is exactly what I was thinking. n/t |
vaberella |
Oct-08-09 06:00 PM |
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(dupage) NT |
Clio the Leo |
Oct-08-09 04:43 PM |
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I am guessing you don't live a a red state.My state, which isn't |
saracat |
Oct-08-09 04:44 PM |
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But they would get the mandate either way |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Oct-08-09 04:52 PM |
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As someone pointed out on the other thread, opting out of the public option would be as popular as |
SPedigrees |
Oct-08-09 04:59 PM |
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Opting out of the Stimulus WAS popular in my state. |
saracat |
Oct-08-09 05:03 PM |
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But not popular enough |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Oct-08-09 05:04 PM |
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Really? What would you know? The lack of stimulus fund just about destroyed |
saracat |
Oct-08-09 05:13 PM |
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But ultimately, did any of the states refuse it? |
Clio the Leo |
Oct-08-09 06:14 PM |
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You do have the option to move. If my state turned red and the only affordable |
SPedigrees |
Oct-08-09 04:53 PM |
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I used to live in NE as well but on what money could I move back? |
saracat |
Oct-08-09 04:59 PM |
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If you are retirement age then you will soon have medicare. |
SPedigrees |
Oct-08-09 10:56 PM |
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I live |
plcdude |
Oct-09-09 11:40 AM |
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Looks like a win to me. |
Warren Stupidity |
Oct-08-09 04:44 PM |
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Because they know what the red states will really do. Vote the Dems completely out. |
saracat |
Oct-08-09 04:46 PM |
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See here: |
Warren Stupidity |
Oct-08-09 04:51 PM |
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I see no reason to believe he is smarter than I am nor to I believe my fears are "unfounded" |
saracat |
Oct-08-09 05:09 PM |
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Nate Silver!!!! purrrr! NT |
Clio the Leo |
Oct-08-09 06:17 PM |
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I'd sure hate to live in Texas and need affordable health care. |
Vinca |
Oct-08-09 04:52 PM |
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Why do we feel a need to do this opt-out? |
madfloridian |
Oct-08-09 04:52 PM |
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I am not entirely convinced we will get a robust PO |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Oct-08-09 04:55 PM |
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Why can't we get a public option? How much of a majority do we need? |
madfloridian |
Oct-08-09 06:18 PM |
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I am arguing from an given assumption that a compromise is needed |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Oct-08-09 06:22 PM |
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How much does "stand for something" cost? |
Clio the Leo |
Oct-08-09 06:28 PM |
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Oh, wow. Now we don't do "rhetorical idealism"? |
madfloridian |
Oct-08-09 06:29 PM |
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We're writing a budget bill, not a stump speech.... |
Clio the Leo |
Oct-08-09 06:35 PM |
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really? Well the so called "practical language isn't just language. It is killing people. |
saracat |
Oct-08-09 08:37 PM |
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Depends if you care about politics or about the people? |
Mass |
Oct-08-09 04:54 PM |
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You are assuming any state would opt out |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Oct-08-09 04:58 PM |
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Mine would. |
saracat |
Oct-08-09 08:38 PM |
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I assume many Republican dominated states would - for the same reason that |
karynnj |
Oct-09-09 01:37 PM |
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And as someone who lives in TN......... |
Clio the Leo |
Oct-08-09 06:31 PM |
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It seems to me to be the first compromise that doesn't involve |
Engineer4Obama |
Oct-08-09 04:55 PM |
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the right leaners are now given cover. They did not vote for a public option |
dave29 |
Oct-08-09 05:38 PM |
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The fact that its an opt-out is huge |
Engineer4Obama |
Oct-08-09 05:39 PM |
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agreed, and as I read from Nate Silver |
dave29 |
Oct-08-09 05:41 PM |
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You made valid points and I think I would agree to this. The stimilus package is a perfect example. |
vaberella |
Oct-08-09 05:58 PM |
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You know what they say about too good to be true |
CreekDog |
Oct-08-09 06:21 PM |
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I don't like it. |
Kermitt Gribble |
Oct-08-09 06:35 PM |
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It took my backwards-ass state decades to have a MLK day |
thelordofhell |
Oct-08-09 07:18 PM |
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Thank you.And folks on this board don't believe us. This is my argument! |
saracat |
Oct-08-09 08:40 PM |
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Your argument is that AZ didn't opt out of the stimulus? |
Alexander |
Oct-09-09 12:14 PM |
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Considering it was written by the DLC asshats Carper and Schumer |
Sebastian Doyle |
Oct-08-09 08:08 PM |
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just wondering... |
thatsrightimirish |
Oct-08-09 08:40 PM |
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no one knows yet. NT |
Clio the Leo |
Oct-08-09 10:22 PM |
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And they can't claim it is being forced upon them |
Kingofalldems |
Oct-08-09 08:40 PM |
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However, by opting out, the states |
Doctor_J |
Oct-08-09 08:49 PM |
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It eviscerates the public option altogether & is useless. Drs already don't accept Medicaid, for ex |
blueworld |
Oct-09-09 11:05 AM |
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Your analysis is predicated on a fallacy |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Oct-09-09 11:34 AM |
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What are your ample reasons? Mine is that I live in red state. n/t |
blueworld |
Oct-09-09 12:54 PM |
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It would be perceived as simple malice against the people of the state. |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Oct-09-09 01:09 PM |
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Constituents will force red states to take PO plan, just like they are begging for stimulus money |
Pisces |
Oct-09-09 12:56 PM |
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It's brilliant because it offers symbolic and meaningless cover to "moderates". |
lumberjack_jeff |
Oct-09-09 01:23 PM |
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