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hileeopnyn8d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 08:15 PM
Response to Reply #48
97. It's hearsay that came out the day before Super Tuesday
and Willie Brown never stated that Obama told him that was the reason, he assumed that was the reason. That doesn't make it a fact, and Obama and those working on his campaign refuted it the day it came out.

To me it sounds like dirty primary politics.
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  -Bill Clinton to join Gavin Newsom in L.A. today to support mayor's bid for governor IndianaGreen  Oct-05-09 02:23 PM   #0 
  - This is why Newsom campaigned for Clinton in the primaries last year. nt  Cant trust em   Oct-05-09 02:26 PM   #1 
  - He also could have been pissed that Barack didn't want his picture taken with someone pro-gay.  jesus_of_suburbia   Oct-05-09 03:49 PM   #13 
     - That could be part of it, but I suspect that it has more to do with political opportunism.  Cant trust em   Oct-05-09 04:05 PM   #21 
        - Everyone successful in politics is opportunistic.  jesus_of_suburbia   Oct-05-09 04:10 PM   #23 
  - Are Clinton and Newson socialists, or just heroes of yours? n/t  ProSense   Oct-05-09 02:28 PM   #2 
  - Newsome wants to run for President one day.  ej510   Oct-05-09 02:33 PM   #3 
  - I like him, but we would lose 45+ states  Ter   Oct-06-09 08:01 PM   #118 
  - Gavin Newsom has been a champion of LGBT rights, while Bill Clinton  IndianaGreen   Oct-05-09 02:57 PM   #6 
     - So Bill Clinton is your hero because he "publicly admitted that DOMA was his biggest mistake"? n/t  ProSense   Oct-05-09 03:05 PM   #7 
     - Spare me you sarcasm!  IndianaGreen   Oct-05-09 03:09 PM   #8 
     - Only if you spare me your  ProSense   Oct-05-09 03:15 PM   #10 
     - Um, actually, he's stated on more than one occasion that not acting on Rwanda soon enough...  SKKY   Oct-05-09 06:12 PM   #79 
     - So Bill gets a pat on the back, while the President is  CakeGrrl   Oct-05-09 03:51 PM   #14 
        - Bill doesn't mind being photographed with pro-gay marriage politicians.. maybe that has something  jesus_of_suburbia   Oct-05-09 04:00 PM   #15 
        - It's one thing to take the President to task on the merits of  CakeGrrl   Oct-05-09 04:10 PM   #22 
           - Surely you are not referring to Rick Warren as a 'perceived slight'  IndianaGreen   Oct-05-09 04:13 PM   #24 
           - How about Donnie McClurkin?  jesus_of_suburbia   Oct-05-09 04:20 PM   #26 
           - I defended Obama on the McClurkin concert  IndianaGreen   Oct-05-09 04:26 PM   #29 
              - Don't worry.. most people on DU did. We all make mistakes.  jesus_of_suburbia   Oct-05-09 04:36 PM   #34 
           - When did Warren come up?  CakeGrrl   Oct-05-09 04:25 PM   #28 
              - Patterns  jesus_of_suburbia   Oct-05-09 04:51 PM   #38 
              - Obama famously refused to be photographed with Newsome during the campaign  dsc   Oct-05-09 05:01 PM   #43 
                 - Obama refused to be photographed with him in '04 during the SF marriage controversy  ruggerson   Oct-05-09 06:02 PM   #69 
                    - Oh I guess I messed up the time line in my head  dsc   Oct-06-09 04:11 PM   #111 
           - Newsom said Barack didn't want his picture taken with him in the primaries....  jesus_of_suburbia   Oct-05-09 04:18 PM   #25 
              - Do we have any reaction from Obama on that, or is this  CakeGrrl   Oct-05-09 04:28 PM   #31 
              - I accept Newsom's word that he supports GLBT rights.  jesus_of_suburbia   Oct-05-09 04:47 PM   #35 
              - It allegedly happened in 2004  hileeopnyn8d   Oct-05-09 04:54 PM   #39 
                 - Where did he refute it when it happened?  jesus_of_suburbia   Oct-05-09 05:00 PM   #42 
                    - My mistake  hileeopnyn8d   Oct-05-09 05:31 PM   #46 
              - actually Willie Brown and others corroborate it  ruggerson   Oct-05-09 05:37 PM   #47 
                 - controversial because of Newsom shtupping his campaign manager's wife  Lord Helmet   Oct-06-09 04:10 PM   #110 
              - But there is no proof of that  hileeopnyn8d   Oct-05-09 04:50 PM   #37 
              - Was that picture taken during the primary? No.  jesus_of_suburbia   Oct-05-09 04:58 PM   #40 
              - IT's not rumor at all  ruggerson   Oct-05-09 05:38 PM   #48 
                 - It's hearsay that came out the day before Super Tuesday  hileeopnyn8d   Oct-05-09 08:15 PM   #97 
              - But, which sounds better for Newsome  karynnj   Oct-05-09 05:54 PM   #62 
                 - Would you please stick to facts? Barack wouldn't take his picture with Newsom in 2004.  jesus_of_suburbia   Oct-05-09 05:57 PM   #64 
                 - Your post said "in the primaries"  karynnj   Oct-05-09 06:05 PM   #74 
                    - I thought you knew of the incident.  jesus_of_suburbia   Oct-05-09 06:14 PM   #80 
                       - Kerry had a 100% record on any type of rights - including gay  karynnj   Oct-05-09 09:02 PM   #101 
                          - I think you misunderstood my post. I know Kerry is for GLBT rights.  jesus_of_suburbia   Oct-05-09 10:14 PM   #103 
                             - Yep - looking back -- I see you answered your own question  karynnj   Oct-06-09 09:36 AM   #105 
                                - *smiles*  jesus_of_suburbia   Oct-07-09 09:54 PM   #124 
                 - The problem with your logic  ruggerson   Oct-05-09 05:59 PM   #65 
                    - Ok - I assumed that when they said primaries - they meant 2008  karynnj   Oct-05-09 06:01 PM   #67 
                       - The story actually comes from Willie Brown and corroborated by others  ruggerson   Oct-05-09 06:03 PM   #72 
                       - My mistake. I meant Newsom brought it up in the primaries.  jesus_of_suburbia   Oct-05-09 06:05 PM   #75 
        - Isn't that something? n/t  firedupdem   Oct-05-09 04:31 PM   #32 
        - When have the Clintons spotlighted homophobes like Rick Warren?  jesus_of_suburbia   Oct-05-09 04:49 PM   #36 
           - So signing that little law in place is of less importance than the guy  firedupdem   Oct-05-09 05:00 PM   #41 
              - That's the bottom line for me  CakeGrrl   Oct-05-09 05:08 PM   #44 
              - Do you know the history of DOMA?  ruggerson   Oct-05-09 05:49 PM   #54 
              - Here's a little history for you  ProSense   Oct-05-09 05:52 PM   #56 
                 - I don't read any of your links  ruggerson   Oct-05-09 05:53 PM   #58 
                 - Hypocrisy. n/t  ProSense   Oct-05-09 05:53 PM   #61 
                 - I don't either  IndianaGreen   Oct-05-09 06:03 PM   #71 
                 - Anyone defending Obama and criticizing Bill Clinton is completely and utterly disingenuous.  jesus_of_suburbia   Oct-05-09 06:02 PM   #70 
                    - Yeah, Bill screwed up because he had to, right?  ProSense   Oct-05-09 06:10 PM   #78 
                       - He did what he had to do. You are the first to say the same for Pres Obama whenever he screws up.  jesus_of_suburbia   Oct-05-09 06:17 PM   #81 
                          - Nonsense, your excuses for Clinton are nothing but hypocrisy. n/t  ProSense   Oct-05-09 06:29 PM   #84 
                             - You should know all about hypocrisy. You support Obama NO MATTER WHAT.  jesus_of_suburbia   Oct-05-09 06:50 PM   #87 
              - Thank you for being SOOOOOO concerned with GLBT rights.  jesus_of_suburbia   Oct-05-09 05:53 PM   #60 
                 - Don't presume to tell me what concerns me about GLBT rights  CakeGrrl   Oct-05-09 07:09 PM   #90 
                    - "These compromises are not the same as FUCKING USING HOMOPHOBES IN YOUR CAMPAIGN AND INAUGURATION"  jesus_of_suburbia   Oct-05-09 08:53 PM   #98 
                    - But when Rick Warren participates in Bill Clinton's Global Initiative,  CakeGrrl   Oct-06-09 06:24 PM   #115 
                    - I thought this was a thread about Gavin Newsom  ruggerson   Oct-05-09 08:59 PM   #99 
                       - To your post's point, what's it doing here on GD: P as a matter of fact?  CakeGrrl   Oct-06-09 06:26 PM   #116 
                          - Good point  ruggerson   Oct-06-09 09:58 PM   #119 
              - Sorry... the country was much different 15 years ago. Barack would never have been elected.  jesus_of_suburbia   Oct-05-09 05:44 PM   #51 
                 - "Bill Clinton put his ass on the line for gays" with DOMA and DADT?  ProSense   Oct-05-09 05:49 PM   #53 
                    - Has Barack put his ass on the line for gays? In any way?  jesus_of_suburbia   Oct-05-09 05:59 PM   #66 
                       - You wrote: "Bill screwed us over because he had to."  ProSense   Oct-05-09 06:04 PM   #73 
                          - Bill doesn't court homophobes like Barack has.  jesus_of_suburbia   Oct-05-09 06:48 PM   #86 
                             - Any excuse for Bill  ProSense   Oct-05-09 07:47 PM   #94 
                             - Interesting. Is this OK since Bill's OK? n/t  CakeGrrl   Oct-05-09 08:03 PM   #95 
                             - You're the queen of any excuse (for Barack).  jesus_of_suburbia   Oct-05-09 08:59 PM   #100 
                                - And that's makes it fine to overlook Bill Clinton's partnership with Rick Warren?  CakeGrrl   Oct-06-09 06:15 PM   #114 
                             - You've done everything, but directly call Obama a homophobe  davidpdx   Oct-08-09 04:52 AM   #126 
        - delete n/t  firedupdem   Oct-05-09 04:31 PM   #33 
  - Those of us old enough to remmeber...Jerry Brown ran for Prez  joeybee12   Oct-05-09 02:33 PM   #4 
  - Jerry was running interference for the anti-Clinton crowd  IndianaGreen   Oct-05-09 02:41 PM   #5 
  - I hope Brown wins  thatsrightimirish   Oct-05-09 03:13 PM   #9 
  - +1  ShortnFiery   Oct-05-09 04:01 PM   #18 
  - Makes me want to donate even more money to Jerry!  Liberal_Stalwart71   Oct-05-09 03:25 PM   #11 
  - Newsome's career sank when he banged his campaign manager's wife.  ej510   Oct-05-09 03:31 PM   #12 
     - I started to go there but didn't. Both he and Big Dawg ain't necessarily the paragon of faithfulness  Liberal_Stalwart71   Oct-05-09 04:00 PM   #16 
     - True  ruggerson   Oct-05-09 06:17 PM   #82 
     - Ah, such a  Cha   Oct-05-09 04:00 PM   #17 
     - It's heartbreaking because I thought Gavin was a rising star in the Democratic Party! n/t  Liberal_Stalwart71   Oct-05-09 04:01 PM   #19 
     - and Bush was faithful to his wife  IndianaGreen   Oct-05-09 04:01 PM   #20 
     - What's your  Cha   Oct-05-09 04:22 PM   #27 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-05-09 04:27 PM   #30 
           - You are just full of sorry you're coming  Cha   Oct-05-09 05:40 PM   #49 
              - Don't play the victim. FRAK is not even a human language word.  IndianaGreen   Oct-05-09 05:52 PM   #57 
                 - I'm not a victim.. I'm sorry for you.  Cha   Oct-05-09 06:01 PM   #68 
     - So True  musiclawyer   Oct-05-09 05:13 PM   #45 
  - Why do straight people think it's ok to TELL gay people how they should react  ruggerson   Oct-05-09 05:41 PM   #50 
  - Because hypocrisy is hypocrisy?  ProSense   Oct-05-09 05:47 PM   #52 
     - Nothing to do with hypocrisy  ruggerson   Oct-05-09 05:52 PM   #55 
        - It's all hypocrisy. n/t  ProSense   Oct-05-09 05:53 PM   #59 
           - No some people actually think and reason  ruggerson   Oct-05-09 05:57 PM   #63 
           - Rick Warren was hypocrisy.  IndianaGreen   Oct-05-09 06:05 PM   #76 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-05-09 06:07 PM   #77 
                 - Keep on saying it.... nobody believes it but the TRUE believers.  jesus_of_suburbia   Oct-05-09 06:52 PM   #88 
  - Gavin's support of GLBT rights will not make him the most popular choice here.  VMI Dem   Oct-05-09 06:27 PM   #83 
  - Quite evidently  ruggerson   Oct-05-09 06:33 PM   #85 
  - Maybe Californians like that Jerry Brown is  Cha   Oct-05-09 06:56 PM   #89 
  - Personally  ruggerson   Oct-05-09 07:41 PM   #92 
  - I'm voting for Newsom.  Starry Messenger   Oct-05-09 07:41 PM   #91 
     - That's a good  Cha   Oct-05-09 07:44 PM   #93 
  - Wow, so many negative responses just because Bill is supporting Newsom.  Beacool   Oct-05-09 08:05 PM   #96 
  - I like Newsom because of he is a champion of full equal rights for LGBTs  IndianaGreen   Oct-05-09 09:51 PM   #102 
  - I don't know much about Newsom.  Beacool   Oct-06-09 09:23 AM   #104 
  - Someone of us have lived with what passes for Newsom's administrative "skills'. n/t  EFerrari   Oct-07-09 11:41 AM   #123 
  - Thanks Bill.  joeycola   Oct-06-09 09:44 AM   #106 
  - Bubba boards the Fail Train -- Brown outpolling Newsom even in SF.  Lord Helmet   Oct-06-09 03:34 PM   #107 
  - I hope Gavin wins. So glad to see BC out on the trail for the superior candidate!  T116   Oct-06-09 03:42 PM   #108 
  - If you'll excuse me: Ewwww, Newsom.  argonaut   Oct-06-09 03:59 PM   #109 
  - Agree. Won't vote for Newsom even though some of his policies  kiranon   Oct-07-09 11:36 AM   #122 
  - The Hillary crowd must really hate Kerry.  ieoeja   Oct-06-09 04:38 PM   #112 
  - Well, most GLBT support Hillary, and most homophobes don't.  T116   Oct-06-09 04:52 PM   #113 
     - Poll? (nt)  ieoeja   Oct-07-09 11:10 AM   #121 
  - I met Gavin Newsom ..he is awesome...  AsahinaKimi   Oct-06-09 06:47 PM   #117 
  - Brown will annihilate Newsom in the primaries. Bill will look foolish once again.  David Zephyr   Oct-06-09 11:16 PM   #120 
  - Big name endorsement, certainly, but I don't think it will be nearly  saltpoint   Oct-07-09 09:57 PM   #125 

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