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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 01:20 PM
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76. I'm reading Jung's 'Psychological Types'
In his typical exhaustively thorough examination of a topic, before getting to the point, he first examines the history of various types of thought. Anti-intellectualism goes waaaaaaaay back and many a philosopher proclaimed its "last gasp" only to be burned at the stake.
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  -I believe I have made a big breakthrough in why the right is so anti-intellectual DuaneBidoux  Sep-30-09 05:38 PM   #0 
  - Excellent analysis. I think you are largely correct.  kestrel91316   Sep-30-09 05:43 PM   #1 
  - Not all Republicans are ignoramuses, but all ignoramuses are Republicans.  olegramps   Oct-01-09 08:07 AM   #53 
  - I disagree  niceypoo   Oct-01-09 09:26 AM   #57 
  - Kind of hard to reach us blue-collar folk with that analysis though  iconocrastic   Oct-01-09 03:41 PM   #95 
  - In the realm of anecdotal supposition, your thoughts are spot on.  stopbush   Sep-30-09 05:44 PM   #2 
  - One minor correction: Olberman ENTERED Cornell at age 16.  kestrel91316   Sep-30-09 05:44 PM   #3 
  - Right. He graduated at 20. n/t  pnwmom   Sep-30-09 05:49 PM   #7 
  - Oh, I was gonna say!  tblue   Sep-30-09 06:55 PM   #23 
  - That's still awesome.  ShortnFiery   Sep-30-09 09:57 PM   #31 
  - Still very impressive, I know a couple of people who've done similar  uponit7771   Oct-01-09 03:41 AM   #45 
     - Mrs. AA entered at 16, grauduated at 19  AngryAmish   Oct-01-09 03:31 PM   #92 
  - Happy to make it 5 - k&r!  polichick   Sep-30-09 05:47 PM   #4 
  - Great research  Cali_Democrat   Sep-30-09 05:47 PM   #5 
  - Well that proves it.....we've all been brainwashed at college!  rgbecker   Sep-30-09 05:48 PM   #6 
  - Populism attacks all sources of legitimate authority that are a threat  kristopher   Sep-30-09 05:49 PM   #8 
  - I'm reading Jung's 'Psychological Types'  TrogL   Oct-01-09 01:20 PM   #76 
  - I'm not predicting the end of populism  kristopher   Oct-01-09 03:27 PM   #90 
  - What's the psychological type of Alan Grayson under Jung's system?  iconocrastic   Oct-01-09 03:44 PM   #98 
  - Taking a wild guess - ENFP  TrogL   Oct-02-09 03:21 PM   #116 
  - Too much introverted sensing from the Freepers?  Odin2005   Oct-02-09 08:51 AM   #111 
  - I think you mean "illegitimate authority"  anonymous171   Oct-01-09 02:04 PM   #86 
     - THaT iS aNotHer pERspeCtIve.  kristopher   Oct-01-09 03:28 PM   #91 
        - Actually it is the truth. nt  anonymous171   Oct-01-09 03:32 PM   #93 
           - No, it isn't. But thanks for playing.  kristopher   Oct-01-09 03:44 PM   #97 
              - There's a lot of truth to it.  girl gone mad   Oct-01-09 03:52 PM   #99 
                 - So those problems justify the wingnut "elite" label?  kristopher   Oct-01-09 06:16 PM   #102 
  - Kinda reminds me of Adlai.  Jackpine Radical   Sep-30-09 05:53 PM   #9 
  - What a great quote  Canuckistanian   Sep-30-09 09:11 PM   #27 
  - He lost then, too.  nemo137   Oct-01-09 03:39 AM   #43 
     - He did lose, but to Ike!  elleng   Oct-01-09 05:35 AM   #47 
     - I think they were, but not to the extent that they are today.  nemo137   Oct-01-09 10:01 AM   #61 
        - and Ike disliked Nixon, and CERTAINLY was not one of them;  elleng   Oct-01-09 10:17 AM   #65 
           - Yes, but there was enough of that resentment there to make RMN a credible politician.  nemo137   Oct-01-09 10:27 AM   #67 
     - Exactly.  lumberjack_jeff   Oct-01-09 11:19 AM   #69 
  - LOL! Love that quote!  Odin2005   Oct-02-09 08:53 AM   #112 
  - That is good  DuaneBidoux   Oct-04-09 02:15 PM   #131 
  - That's not been my experience.  GMA   Sep-30-09 05:58 PM   #10 
  - Read the OP again  lunatica   Sep-30-09 06:40 PM   #20 
  - You seem to be in the substantial minority  Greyskye   Sep-30-09 06:45 PM   #21 
  - Why do you say that the OP is elitist?  AwakeAtLast   Sep-30-09 09:46 PM   #29 
  - "elitist" is a rightwing code word for liberal  ruggerson   Sep-30-09 09:58 PM   #32 
  - I think it's also a code word in general for anyone who is better as something than I am.  DuaneBidoux   Oct-01-09 01:48 PM   #82 
  - No.  snake in the grass   Oct-01-09 07:32 PM   #107 
  - And yet the right wing is fine with an elite, so long as it is based on  treestar   Oct-02-09 10:57 AM   #114 
  - LOL!  Zoeisright   Oct-01-09 12:02 AM   #38 
  - The person to whom you are replying is absolutely right.  lumberjack_jeff   Oct-01-09 11:23 AM   #70 
     - Oh BS.  Zoeisright   Oct-01-09 01:06 PM   #72 
        - Of those "ridiculing this person" yours best demonstrated the phenomenon.  lumberjack_jeff   Oct-01-09 02:14 PM   #87 
  - It's "judgment"  AspenRose   Oct-01-09 09:47 AM   #59 
  - Define your terms. What is "smart"?  TrogL   Oct-01-09 01:21 PM   #77 
  - Says the Glenn Beck defender.  JTFrog   Oct-03-09 08:00 AM   #120 
  - Interesting article here.  marew   Sep-30-09 06:01 PM   #11 
  - +1  otohara   Oct-02-09 11:11 AM   #115 
  - No, it's religion. It's easy to rally the stupid masses with religion.  valerief   Sep-30-09 06:05 PM   #12 
  - I agree with both you and the OP  truedelphi   Sep-30-09 06:27 PM   #15 
     - Yep, the GOP depends on the Jesus circuit to hook their minions.  valerief   Sep-30-09 06:31 PM   #17 
  - Deep, rational thought is simply incompatible with right-wing American politics.  Orsino   Sep-30-09 06:14 PM   #13 
  - I agree. The Right needs people to mistrust their intellects and reason.  Overseas   Oct-01-09 02:44 PM   #89 
  - Good find...and yes you did find the key....now what we do about it??  movonne   Sep-30-09 06:18 PM   #14 
  - Well that is easy!  whosinpower   Sep-30-09 06:33 PM   #18 
     - Mandatory. They get a fine if they don't attend! Idiots cost this country trillions.  NoSheep   Oct-01-09 01:10 PM   #73 
     - I believe there's several countries doing that already  TrogL   Oct-01-09 01:46 PM   #81 
  - If I recall correctly....  Hepburn   Sep-30-09 06:30 PM   #16 
  - my partner never went to college  ruggerson   Sep-30-09 09:56 PM   #30 
  - My husband barely graduated HS  a la izquierda   Oct-01-09 06:36 AM   #49 
  - Because people who have read and studied don't fall for propaganda?  WinkyDink   Sep-30-09 06:36 PM   #19 
  - Required college English is called Critical Thinking  lunatica   Sep-30-09 06:47 PM   #22 
  - One of the best courses I ever took was "Sex Role Stereotypes in Education"  TrogL   Oct-02-09 03:47 PM   #117 
  - Intellect sometimes interferes with self serving logic.  rudy23   Sep-30-09 07:08 PM   #24 
  - And bless him, this is one reason why I'm not fond of Big Ed.....  Clio the Leo   Sep-30-09 07:49 PM   #25 
  - But of course, what you imply is untrue.  Bluenorthwest   Sep-30-09 09:58 PM   #33 
  - Ed is no polymath like Hartmann and Maddow, but he is raising holy populist hell on health care  eridani   Oct-01-09 02:38 AM   #41 
     - I tried to find education info on Ed. I know he played college football but I couldn't pin down a  DuaneBidoux   Oct-01-09 07:22 AM   #50 
  - They were the kids that cheated in school & copied others work.  Historic NY   Sep-30-09 08:44 PM   #26 
  - You're onto something here...  Catshrink   Sep-30-09 09:19 PM   #28 
  - Conservatives, Educated or Not, Do Not Want Their WorldView Challenged  Yavin4   Sep-30-09 10:07 PM   #34 
  - I think you're right. Critical thinking is key  AspenRose   Oct-01-09 10:03 AM   #63 
  - Yep, there's a strong correlation between being more educated and being more liberal  ShadowLiberal   Sep-30-09 10:45 PM   #35 
  - Correlation is not causation, of course.  boppers   Sep-30-09 11:58 PM   #36 
     - I don't think ANYTHING is a simple matter of causation.  DuaneBidoux   Oct-01-09 01:51 PM   #83 
  - I LOVE that quote; it's so true.  Zoeisright   Oct-01-09 12:01 AM   #37 
  - John Stuart Mill.  Manifestor_of_Light   Oct-01-09 10:30 AM   #68 
  - The relative lack of education of conservatives has been long-known...  BlooInBloo   Oct-01-09 12:29 AM   #39 
  - STUCK AT HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL.....Bwahahaha...little wonder their Bullyness and lack of knowledge..  opihimoimoi   Oct-01-09 02:27 AM   #40 
  - Both intellectually- and in their levels of emotional maturity  depakid   Oct-01-09 03:07 AM   #42 
  - Logical conclusions, worth taking a look at  uponit7771   Oct-01-09 03:40 AM   #44 
  - ***FOLLOW UP**** Only 2% of US Scientist consider themselves to be conservative, 56%Liberal (link)  uponit7771   Oct-01-09 03:44 AM   #46 
  - Evolution to liberalism  FlaGranny   Oct-01-09 06:35 AM   #48 
  - Beck took ONE COURSE, and he didn't finish it.  Stephanie   Oct-01-09 07:33 AM   #51 
  - It is about exposure to ideas different than ones own and ones  harun   Oct-01-09 08:00 AM   #52 
  - When I scan the radio stations while driving this is my experience:  olegramps   Oct-01-09 08:26 AM   #54 
  - Michael Moore is a college drop out.  ipaint   Oct-01-09 09:07 AM   #55 
  - Michael Moore does not disdain facts  niceypoo   Oct-01-09 09:24 AM   #56 
     - I'm not arguing that point.  ipaint   Oct-01-09 09:39 AM   #58 
  - That doesn't account for the Ivy League conservatives, who can be  Lydia Leftcoast   Oct-01-09 09:58 AM   #60 
  - This wasn't always the case. Conservative were intellectuals once.  msallied   Oct-01-09 10:03 AM   #62 
  - Flawed arguement...  MidwestRick   Oct-01-09 10:12 AM   #64 
  - I have little college and I am not offended at all....  Klukie   Oct-01-09 10:24 AM   #66 
  - Reply recommended!  NoSheep   Oct-01-09 01:13 PM   #74 
  - Republiclowns celebrate ignorance.  Snarkoleptic   Oct-01-09 11:25 AM   #71 
  - authoritarians are anti-intellectual because it challenges their core beliefs  TrogL   Oct-01-09 01:14 PM   #75 
  - Batshit crazy Michele Bachmann voted NO on making it easier to go to college:  NoSheep   Oct-01-09 01:21 PM   #78 
  - Point of order, if I may...  badgerpup   Oct-01-09 01:28 PM   #79 
  - Republicans are just wrong. They aren't stupid. They knnow what they are doing.  anonymous171   Oct-01-09 01:33 PM   #80 
  - I didn't say they were stupid--I mentioned that the big conservative commentators lacked education.  DuaneBidoux   Oct-01-09 01:54 PM   #84 
  - Also - the "blue" states and areas tend to be better educated than the red.  kerry-is-my-prez   Oct-01-09 02:04 PM   #85 
  - I've been calling Limbaugh, Beck and Hannity college dropouts for years  zulchzulu   Oct-01-09 02:15 PM   #88 
  - You're on to something although I'd say missing education is more of a symptom than a cause...  ForeignSpectator   Oct-01-09 03:35 PM   #94 
  - Well, I probably too strongly equated "education" with college.  DuaneBidoux   Oct-01-09 06:58 PM   #103 
  - Yes, that's what I meant to say...  ForeignSpectator   Oct-02-09 05:13 AM   #109 
  - Coulter studies Law, which if it were many kinds, including corporate law, means nothing  DuaneBidoux   Oct-01-09 07:11 PM   #105 
  - I is a hi skool gradoooooate.  Vinca   Oct-01-09 03:42 PM   #96 
  - I Do Believe You are Correct  On the Road   Oct-01-09 04:09 PM   #100 
  - No offense, but technical is not education.  DuaneBidoux   Oct-01-09 07:09 PM   #104 
  - Propaganda works. It's just that simple.  Feron   Oct-01-09 04:19 PM   #101 
  - Bill Gates: college drop out  Liberty Lover   Oct-01-09 07:14 PM   #106 
  - Uh- no, don't know what you mean?  WatchWhatISay   Oct-02-09 12:30 AM   #108 
  - Actually I think they are all inferior to me  treestar   Oct-02-09 10:55 AM   #113 
  - I didn't say you could be successful with only a college degree. I'm not sure economic success comes  DuaneBidoux   Oct-02-09 04:18 PM   #118 
  - Or could it  billh58   Oct-02-09 04:31 PM   #119 
     - The ideal size of government for right wingers is less.  DuaneBidoux   Oct-03-09 11:06 AM   #122 
        - While I agree  billh58   Oct-03-09 12:41 PM   #123 
           - Actually I didn't realize anything either way--just typing away.  DuaneBidoux   Oct-03-09 04:28 PM   #124 
  - I think its even less complex than education  TheKentuckian   Oct-02-09 05:43 AM   #110 
  - That's a very interesting perspective, it's like asking ..why did  robo50   Oct-03-09 08:37 AM   #121 
  - Correct, every moment spent in liberal arts is like the elven rope around Gollum's neck  TheKentuckian   Oct-03-09 04:52 PM   #125 
  - I'm the OP and for me is wasn't like that. As liberals of course we must admit it is complex.  DuaneBidoux   Oct-03-09 05:09 PM   #126 
     - It can but it sounds like you weren't an native ideologue but rather a product of environment  TheKentuckian   Oct-03-09 06:37 PM   #127 
  - They don't care about education as long as they're making hundreds of millions of dollars!  Liberal_Stalwart71   Oct-03-09 08:13 PM   #128 
  - My brother is an MD, Ph.D. and solid Republican. I appealed  mnhtnbb   Oct-03-09 09:14 PM   #129 
  - One can go all the way through an MDs education and get not once ounce of education  DuaneBidoux   Oct-03-09 11:52 PM   #130 
  - I'm a college dropout. I'm not offended. I've always found the wingnut aversion to education  Honeycombe8   Oct-05-09 07:41 AM   #132 
 

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