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Fri Oct-02-09 06:49 AM
Response to Reply #66 |
| -It might suck, but the Democratic Party is the ONLY way forward |
CTLawGuy |
Sep-30-09 06:30 AM |
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Just use my little rationalization. |
whyverne |
Sep-30-09 06:46 AM |
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Only for the time being, and only because of the Supreme Court |
still_one |
Sep-30-09 06:50 AM |
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I agree with your last two paragraphs, but disagree completely on the first |
karynnj |
Sep-30-09 07:16 AM |
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Good points. My main emphasis was that things can change where a party may not |
still_one |
Sep-30-09 09:15 AM |
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You are correct. |
Enthusiast |
Oct-01-09 03:00 PM |
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I used to think so. Lately I am not too sure. |
freddie mertz |
Sep-30-09 06:55 AM |
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Then we are doomed. |
Warren Stupidity |
Sep-30-09 06:55 AM |
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I'm in the same place |
zipplewrath |
Sep-30-09 11:11 AM |
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When I was in college, a roomate told me I HAD to support the PTL club on tv |
Lerkfish |
Sep-30-09 07:04 AM |
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I'm beginning to think both parties are the same because |
Vinca |
Sep-30-09 07:12 AM |
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Electoral politics is not the answer - we're wasting our energy on it |
bread_and_roses |
Sep-30-09 07:20 AM |
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#4 only works if the DEM establishment actually supports the DEM nominee 100%. Not so with Lamont. |
Dr Fate |
Sep-30-09 12:09 PM |
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If They Can't Move The Ball Now, They Can't Move It Ever |
MannyGoldstein |
Sep-30-09 07:20 AM |
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Cept when they are going backwards, or spinning in a circle, or doing a circle jerk, etc. |
Oregone |
Sep-30-09 07:39 AM |
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You make some very good points. |
sybylla |
Sep-30-09 08:11 AM |
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Consider the alternative. |
iceman66 |
Sep-30-09 08:14 AM |
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Yeah, they have that built in protection. |
Enthusiast |
Oct-01-09 03:07 PM |
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That makes absolutely no sense. |
iceman66 |
Oct-01-09 06:31 PM |
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The world makes no sense |
Enthusiast |
Oct-02-09 05:00 AM |
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I don't think so... |
S_E_Fudd |
Sep-30-09 09:11 AM |
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a third party will never do anything but weaken either the dems or the repubs. untill we have a euro |
dionysus |
Sep-30-09 09:13 AM |
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Well the Dems are in power now. Let's see what they do about switching over to |
GreenPartyVoter |
Sep-30-09 11:57 AM |
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"(until it completely dies and has to be rebuilt from scratch.)" unfortunately that's what it would |
dionysus |
Sep-30-09 12:09 PM |
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True. Look where purist idealism got the Repukes |
treestar |
Sep-30-09 09:33 AM |
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I have to agree with you |
WeDidIt |
Sep-30-09 09:37 AM |
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There's a lot of truth to that... |
Orsino |
Sep-30-09 09:45 AM |
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The Democrats are going to have to earn my vote by being progressive. |
invictus |
Sep-30-09 11:28 AM |
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so you don't vote |
CTLawGuy |
Sep-30-09 10:00 PM |
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It makes them feel all warm and fuzzy inside. |
BzaDem |
Oct-01-09 07:59 AM |
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Oh, so now DEMS NEED Liberals? Fine, then support them now, and we have nothing to worry about. |
Dr Fate |
Sep-30-09 11:55 AM |
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people have brought up Lamont/Lieberman |
CTLawGuy |
Sep-30-09 05:19 PM |
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That was me. So what recent primary examples should we look to as the template? |
Dr Fate |
Sep-30-09 06:41 PM |
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well |
CTLawGuy |
Sep-30-09 09:53 PM |
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So you dont have an answer. Lamont/Lieberman is our template on how DEM primaires work.... |
Dr Fate |
Oct-01-09 12:16 PM |
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where do you get this idea... |
CTLawGuy |
Oct-02-09 05:46 AM |
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You said that certain DEMS were "allowed" to support a conservative 3rd party. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-02-09 09:10 AM |
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let me ask you another question |
CTLawGuy |
Oct-01-09 06:27 AM |
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Shouldnt you answer my questions first? 2 of them went unanswered. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-01-09 12:09 PM |
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let me be clear |
CTLawGuy |
Oct-02-09 06:09 AM |
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Thanks. I'll happily answer your question: No. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-02-09 09:29 AM |
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Electing Democrats doesn't work. Electing Left-kind of Democrats is what we must do. |
IndianaGreen |
Sep-30-09 10:04 PM |
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+1 |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-30-09 10:21 PM |
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We elected Democratic Congress in 2006. and what was the first thing that happened? |
IndianaGreen |
Sep-30-09 10:27 PM |
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And on the other hand |
Inuca |
Oct-01-09 01:13 PM |
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Exactly. I wont give directly to the DNC or the DCC anymore- just good, solid individual DEMS |
Dr Fate |
Oct-01-09 12:31 PM |
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Our problem is and always will be disproportionate representation in the Senate. |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Oct-01-09 08:59 AM |
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THIS is something I have a major problem with |
Inuca |
Oct-01-09 01:24 PM |
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There's a reason they're called "states" and not provinces. |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Oct-01-09 02:30 PM |
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Thanks for the bit of history |
Inuca |
Oct-01-09 03:12 PM |
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I agree. The reason the Repubs. are in lockstep all the time is because they are a small-tent party |
jenmito |
Oct-01-09 12:19 PM |
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Give me an example of the "vice versa"... |
Dr Fate |
Oct-01-09 12:27 PM |
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Since I'm not a conservadem, I don't know what they'd consider |
jenmito |
Oct-01-09 12:30 PM |
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In that case, with all due respect, maybe you are wrong. There is no "vice versa" |
Dr Fate |
Oct-01-09 12:35 PM |
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Well, the "may be" works both ways... |
jenmito |
Oct-01-09 12:39 PM |
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Fair enough- but I was asking for modern examples, not predictions for the future. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-01-09 12:43 PM |
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All of the examples you cited- |
jenmito |
Oct-01-09 12:52 PM |
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Going to Iraq, Bush's tax cuts, "off the table", etc refer to past examples, not works in progress. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-01-09 12:59 PM |
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So you're talking about BEFORE Obama became president? |
jenmito |
Oct-01-09 01:06 PM |
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I'm giving you recent, actual examples of Blue Dogs screwing us over, not predictions. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-01-09 02:45 PM |
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My post you first responded to said this: |
jenmito |
Oct-01-09 03:02 PM |
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Fair enough- you are predicting what might happen- and I'm telling you what did indeed happen. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-01-09 03:15 PM |
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Exactly |
LatteLibertine |
Oct-01-09 01:25 PM |
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Oh yeah, |
Enthusiast |
Oct-01-09 03:01 PM |
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So we're fucked! |
Umbral |
Oct-01-09 03:55 PM |
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We must take over the Democratic party from the centerists, |
old mark |
Oct-01-09 04:06 PM |
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LOL! I have a feeling the OP did not mean it quite that way. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-01-09 06:02 PM |
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I know what he is saying, but this is OUR party even if they need an |
old mark |
Oct-01-09 06:59 PM |
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I'm with ya. n/t |
Dr Fate |
Oct-01-09 07:01 PM |
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then you didn't read the OP very closely |
CTLawGuy |
Oct-02-09 06:18 AM |
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I did, and you said nothing specific about removing "centrists" or moving the party leftward. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-02-09 09:17 AM |
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So your answer is to happily accept mediocrity? |
martymar64 |
Oct-01-09 06:33 PM |
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Fall in line behind the Joe Lieberman wing, then suck it up and hope for the best. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-01-09 07:15 PM |
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+ Infinity |
Dinger |
Oct-02-09 06:49 AM |
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please show |
CTLawGuy |
Oct-02-09 06:20 AM |
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My post deals with what you did NOT say. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-02-09 09:20 AM |
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Don't follow parties, follow principles |
Liberty Lover |
Oct-01-09 07:09 PM |
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And when Ron changes his principles from, say wanting govt to stay out of our lives |
WatchWhatISay |
Oct-02-09 12:34 AM |
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If that's the case, then we're screwed, |
MadHound |
Oct-02-09 05:38 AM |
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Yes! Well put. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-02-09 05:47 AM |
#71 |
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