Autumn
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Tue Sep-29-09 09:16 PM
Response to Reply #65 |
| 67. Like you said , it is one committee. |
|
He should have shoved it down their throats. Republicans do it, he should too. A little arm twisting would do the conservadems a world of good.
|
| -Could it have been different if Obama had exercised strong leadership? |
cali |
Sep-29-09 03:51 PM |
#0 |
 -
Once Again, How Does A President Constitutionally Bypass Congress? |
TomCADem |
Sep-29-09 03:53 PM |
#1 |
 -
presidents coordinate with Congress to get legislation they want |
cali |
Sep-29-09 03:54 PM |
#5 |
| -
You are assuming he hasn't done that. |
iceman66 |
Sep-29-09 04:27 PM |
#30 |
 -
I agree it's wrong to assume none. |
Lord Helmet |
Sep-29-09 04:49 PM |
#41 |
| -
Actually, Lord Helmet, we DO know what went on behind the scenes and it involved a |
bertman |
Sep-29-09 06:30 PM |
#60 |
| -
we're heard a lot of rumors |
Lord Helmet |
Sep-29-09 11:28 PM |
#72 |
| -
The giveaway to Big Pharma is a fact, not a rumor. It was engineered by the administration |
bertman |
Sep-30-09 09:00 AM |
#76 |
| -
actually the record for legislation that the President initiates and delivers to Congress |
grantcart |
Sep-29-09 04:50 PM |
#42 |
| -
That's the problem |
Abq_Sarah |
Sep-29-09 03:55 PM |
#7 |
| -
He had/has the Bully Pulpit. |
GreenArrow |
Sep-29-09 04:59 PM |
#46 |
| -
ask George W. Bush. nt |
LaydeeBug |
Sep-29-09 06:03 PM |
#57 |
| -
no. leading doesn't require that. it means kicking asses, schmoozing |
roguevalley |
Sep-30-09 02:39 PM |
#84 |
| -
Could *WHAT* have been different? This is ONE committee's bill (out of 5)... |
scheming daemons |
Sep-29-09 03:54 PM |
#2 |
| -
thank you |
wyldwolf |
Sep-29-09 03:55 PM |
#6 |
| -
Lmao!!! I can't help it! Your reply was DEAD ON!!! |
Fire1 |
Sep-29-09 04:04 PM |
#14 |
| -
+50000000 |
Parker CA |
Sep-29-09 04:21 PM |
#23 |
| -
Which Senate bill has a real, universal Public Option? |
jgraz |
Sep-30-09 02:23 PM |
#79 |
| -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-30-09 03:16 PM |
#87 |
| -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-30-09 03:17 PM |
#88 |
| -
"It won't change the reality of the situation." The reality of what: a committee vote? |
ProSense |
Sep-29-09 03:54 PM |
#3 |
| -
Has He Signed Something Yet? |
Beetwasher |
Sep-29-09 03:54 PM |
#4 |
| -
Jesuscherist on a parallel cross, how many times |
Kaleko |
Sep-29-09 06:19 PM |
#59 |
| -
It didn't work when Clinton did it, |
RoccoR5955 |
Sep-29-09 03:56 PM |
#8 |
| -
Completely different dynamic today |
depakid |
Sep-29-09 04:19 PM |
#21 |
| -
This was going to be tough no matter what |
Thrill |
Sep-29-09 03:57 PM |
#9 |
| -
Exactly. |
iceman66 |
Sep-29-09 05:55 PM |
#55 |
| -
Last week he was making DLC deals and Rahm was selling us out |
sandnsea |
Sep-29-09 03:58 PM |
#10 |
| -
I keep thinking... he coulda been the champ. |
phantom power |
Sep-29-09 03:58 PM |
#11 |
| -
Nope, then the right would have made all sorts of charges. |
tabatha |
Sep-29-09 04:10 PM |
#17 |
| -
they would, but... they're doing that anyway. |
phantom power |
Sep-29-09 04:19 PM |
#20 |
| -
Yes, but they are baseless charges. |
tabatha |
Sep-29-09 05:36 PM |
#51 |
| -
Presidents historically set the tone, and advocate agendas.... |
phantom power |
Sep-29-09 06:00 PM |
#56 |
| -
Thank God they didn't do that, and NOW we have their full support! |
FormerDittoHead |
Oct-06-09 11:19 AM |
#98 |
| -
No, he could not have pulled it off. |
iceman66 |
Sep-29-09 04:22 PM |
#25 |
| -
I disagree. He could have gotten the votes. |
phantom power |
Sep-29-09 04:24 PM |
#28 |
| -
What Senators do you think would have changed their positions? |
iceman66 |
Sep-29-09 04:28 PM |
#32 |
| -
Everyone one of them facing re-election in 2010 |
RJDem |
Sep-29-09 04:56 PM |
#45 |
| -
In other words, you can't name one. |
iceman66 |
Sep-29-09 05:39 PM |
#52 |
| -
But, isn't that part of what politics is supposed to be about? |
phantom power |
Sep-29-09 05:51 PM |
#54 |
| -
There is nowhere near the necessary level of public support |
iceman66 |
Sep-29-09 06:07 PM |
#58 |
| -
Yes, it could have been different. (We didn't need that crappy pharma deal either). nt |
polichick |
Sep-29-09 03:59 PM |
#12 |
| -
I sure don't see how it could have HURT. But Obama and leader are mutually exclusive terms. |
katandmoon |
Sep-29-09 04:03 PM |
#13 |
| -
Leadership = Suspending Constituion and Bypassing Congress? |
TomCADem |
Sep-29-09 04:05 PM |
#15 |
| -
Exactly, its another damn "leadership" complainer who has no clue what they even mean by it. |
phleshdef |
Sep-29-09 04:21 PM |
#24 |
| -
Yeah, we really hated it when Bush did it but with Obama it should be okay. |
Jennicut |
Sep-29-09 09:11 PM |
#66 |
| -
4 of 5 committees have given him what he wants |
SpartanDem |
Sep-29-09 04:05 PM |
#16 |
| -
This is the committee whose efforts he has been praising.. |
freddie mertz |
Sep-29-09 04:20 PM |
# |
| -
He did exercise strong leadership |
jeanpalmer |
Sep-29-09 04:11 PM |
#18 |
| -
LOL -- "something done" |
RJDem |
Sep-29-09 04:28 PM |
#31 |
| -
Not only will it not reduce the cost of premiums |
jeanpalmer |
Sep-29-09 04:36 PM |
#36 |
| -
We'll never know |
depakid |
Sep-29-09 04:16 PM |
#19 |
| -
Yes, but he won't. It seems pleasing Chuck Grassley is more important |
LittleBlue |
Sep-29-09 04:20 PM |
#22 |
| -
Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Sep-29-09 04:23 PM |
#26 |
| -
Oh goody - a siren call to all long-standing Obama detractors. |
CakeGrrl |
Sep-29-09 04:24 PM |
#27 |
| -
Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Sep-29-09 04:46 PM |
#39 |
| -
LOL!! It's fly paper for the perpetually disgruntled. |
Lord Helmet |
Sep-29-09 04:51 PM |
#44 |
| -
Yep. Their happy day is here. |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-29-09 05:00 PM |
#48 |
| -
Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Sep-29-09 05:01 PM |
#49 |
| -
I guess writing it in the W.H., like Clinton did, would've been a better way to go? |
Honeycombe8 |
Sep-29-09 04:26 PM |
#29 |
| -
Since most don't know what strong leadership even means these days..... |
FrenchieCat |
Sep-29-09 04:31 PM |
#33 |
| -
We would know it we saw it... |
freddie mertz |
Sep-29-09 08:15 PM |
#62 |
| -
If we get no public option, then it will be a total party failure IMO |
mvd |
Sep-29-09 04:34 PM |
#34 |
| -
It's a reasonable question... |
ljm2002 |
Sep-29-09 04:36 PM |
#35 |
| -
Yes, it's hard to tell for sure |
mvd |
Sep-29-09 04:48 PM |
#40 |
| -
Did Pres. Obama really believe Reid was going to push it through the Senate? |
DailyGrind51 |
Sep-29-09 04:42 PM |
#37 |
| -
Yes, it could have been much different. This "pragmatism" is seriously LAME and GUTLESS. eom |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-29-09 04:44 PM |
#38 |
| -
dele. |
rvablue |
Sep-29-09 04:50 PM |
#43 |
| -
Pistols at Dawn? What? Really. |
jberryhill |
Sep-29-09 04:59 PM |
#47 |
| -
your tendency is toward cynicism. many times you are disproven. |
Aramchek |
Sep-29-09 05:03 PM |
#50 |
| -
yeah, you know me so well. you've been here for all of 3 months. |
cali |
Sep-30-09 02:36 PM |
#83 |
| -
strong leadership? |
dave29 |
Sep-29-09 05:50 PM |
#53 |
| -
Yes it would have been very different. We |
Autumn |
Sep-29-09 08:05 PM |
#61 |
| -
You don't shove anything through Congress...unless you are Bush |
Jennicut |
Sep-29-09 09:10 PM |
#65 |
| -
Like you said , it is one committee. |
Autumn |
Sep-29-09 09:16 PM |
#67 |
| -
Arm twist them with what? |
Jennicut |
Sep-29-09 09:22 PM |
#69 |
| -
Instead of honoring Baucus's |
Autumn |
Sep-29-09 09:52 PM |
#71 |
| -
Continue to "believe" but this is an example of piss poor leadership on Obama's part. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-30-09 12:37 AM |
#75 |
| -
Folks like you are never happy |
MadMaddie |
Sep-29-09 08:22 PM |
#63 |
| -
what a not nice thing to say. "folks like you" "never happy" what |
Laura PourMeADrink |
Sep-29-09 09:26 PM |
#70 |
| -
Your subject line asked the question |
MadMaddie |
Sep-30-09 12:33 AM |
#74 |
| -
wrong. and simplistic as well. |
cali |
Sep-30-09 02:34 PM |
#82 |
| -
Cali sometimes simplistic is the answer |
MadMaddie |
Sep-30-09 09:23 PM |
#90 |
| -
Yes |
Armstead |
Sep-29-09 08:55 PM |
#64 |
| -
I agree. If we can learn from history - Hillary's try at it. IMHO, O |
Laura PourMeADrink |
Sep-29-09 09:20 PM |
#68 |
| -
They'd have done that regardless. |
nemo137 |
Sep-30-09 03:11 PM |
#85 |
| -
you are right - but there's no way I believe it would have been as |
Laura PourMeADrink |
Sep-30-09 06:22 PM |
#89 |
| -
Blanche Lincoln is up for re-election. Will Obama support her? |
rmp yellow |
Sep-29-09 11:31 PM |
#73 |
| -
Yup, he gets to look "presidential" blow air kisses to Progressives |
PHIMG |
Sep-30-09 11:12 AM |
#77 |
| -
totally agree. |
nashville_brook |
Sep-30-09 02:20 PM |
#78 |
| -
Seems to me the Dem Congress has moved along this issue |
dmr |
Sep-30-09 02:28 PM |
#80 |
| -
some startling points in this article by Glenn Greenwald: |
inna |
Sep-30-09 02:32 PM |
#81 |
| -
I'm unclear on what he should be doing differently overall |
TheKentuckian |
Sep-30-09 03:11 PM |
#86 |
| -
Healthcare is an issue |
jeanpalmer |
Sep-30-09 09:49 PM |
#91 |
| -
Agreed. People forget that the Democratic Party was virtually on life |
Midwestern Democrat |
Oct-06-09 10:32 AM |
#97 |
| -
Oh, more name calling. |
boppers |
Sep-30-09 09:50 PM |
#92 |
| -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-05-09 11:59 PM |
#93 |
| -
So lame! |
firedupdem |
Oct-06-09 12:01 AM |
#94 |
| -
CHICKEN CHICKEN CHICKEN! |
boppers |
Oct-06-09 12:03 AM |
#95 |
| -
Short, sweet and fucking true. |
asdjrocky |
Oct-06-09 12:21 AM |
#96 |
| -
I think it could have been a whole lot different=It could have been |
joeycola |
Oct-06-09 12:13 PM |
#99 |
Printer-friendly format
Email this thread to a friend
Bookmark this thread