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69. More Than 100 Experts Question Human Rights Watch's Venezuela Report

In an open letter to the Board of Directors of Human Rights Watch, over 100 experts on Latin America criticized the organization's recent report on Venezuela, A Decade Under Chvez: Political Intolerance and Lost Opportunities for Advancing Human Rights in Venezuela, saying that it "does not meet even the most minimal standards of scholarship, impartiality, accuracy, or credibility." The signers include leading academic specialists from universities in the United States, including Harvard, Johns Hopkins, and a number of state universities, and academic institutions in Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Mxico, the U.K., Venezuela and other countries. The letter cites Jose Miguel Vivanco, lead author of the report, saying "We did the report because we wanted to demonstrate to the world that Venezuela is not a model for anyone"<1>, as evidence of its political agenda. The letter also criticizes the report for making unsubstantiated allegations, and that some of the sources that Human Rights Watch relied on in the report are not credible.

"By publishing such a grossly flawed report, and acknowledging a political motivation in doing so, Mr. Vivanco has undermined the credibility of an important human rights organization," the letter states.

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  -An Interview with Hugo Chavez By Greg Grandin: "I believe in the dream of Martin Luther King Jr." Better Believe It  Sep-28-09 12:28 PM   #0 
  - Hugo Chavez is a good man, and it shows.  DutchLiberal   Sep-28-09 12:39 PM   #1 
  - LoL!  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-28-09 12:44 PM   #2 
  - And you "learned" that from reading or viewing what? FoxNews?  Better Believe It   Sep-28-09 12:48 PM   #3 
  - Oh Noes! Better Believe It thanks I'm uninformed.  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-28-09 12:57 PM   #4 
     - And your answer to the question is .....  Better Believe It   Sep-28-09 01:42 PM   #5 
        - Hugo Chvez Versus Human Rights.  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-28-09 01:54 PM   #6 
        - Throw them out!  Better Believe It   Sep-28-09 03:35 PM   #10 
        - LoL!  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-28-09 03:47 PM   #12 
        - Are you admitting that you know nothing about these alleged defenders of democracy?  Better Believe It   Sep-28-09 04:39 PM   #15 
           - You are a fool. Who can't admit he's wrong.  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-28-09 04:45 PM   #18 
        - They work for Human Rights Watch. Do you question there credibility?  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-28-09 05:52 PM   #21 
        - Who are they? What do you know about them?  Better Believe It   Sep-28-09 08:53 PM   #60 
           - I have no reason to doubt them.  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-28-09 09:06 PM   #62 
           - Here's another link.  Wilms   Sep-28-09 11:20 PM   #68 
           - You owe me a new keyboard.  ChimpersMcSmirkers   Sep-29-09 09:53 PM   #94 
        - Ignore is your friend.  roody   Sep-28-09 08:49 PM   #58 
        - Duplicate  Better Believe It   Sep-28-09 03:36 PM   #11 
        - Crickets?  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-28-09 02:36 PM   #9 
           - More Than 100 Experts Question Human Rights Watch's Venezuela Report  Wilms   Sep-28-09 11:24 PM   #69 
  - Thanks for proving my point.  DutchLiberal   Sep-28-09 06:16 PM   #22 
     - Please provide links to debunk,  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-28-09 06:18 PM   #24 
        - You're reversing the burden of proof here.  DutchLiberal   Sep-28-09 06:25 PM   #29 
           - LOL!  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-28-09 06:28 PM   #31 
              - I'm asking you to debunk what *I* wrote, and you reverse the question...  DutchLiberal   Sep-28-09 06:34 PM   #35 
                 - See post 6 and 21. Then try to debunk.  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-28-09 06:40 PM   #39 
                    - Your posts had nothing to do with my questions...  DutchLiberal   Sep-28-09 06:43 PM   #41 
                       - We don't know since he has kicked out humanitarian  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-28-09 06:53 PM   #43 
                          - So two people get expelled, and suddenly it's a dictatorship???  DutchLiberal   Sep-28-09 07:11 PM   #44 
                             - LOL!  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-28-09 07:15 PM   #45 
                                - If you don't have something factual to reply with, it's okay to not react at all...  DutchLiberal   Sep-28-09 07:25 PM   #46 
                                   - "Government Sponsored Antisemitism Grows Under Chavez  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-28-09 07:59 PM   #48 
                                      - "Charges"... "Some say"... An obscure website and... the fucking Miami Herald?!  DutchLiberal   Sep-28-09 08:05 PM   #49 
                                         - "Venezuela Expels Israeli Ambassador  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-28-09 08:11 PM   #50 
                                            - Shifting the subject even further...  DutchLiberal   Sep-28-09 08:19 PM   #52 
                                               - Start debunking if you don't like it.  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-28-09 08:23 PM   #53 
                                                  - You never answered any of the questions.  Forkboy   Sep-28-09 08:28 PM   #54 
                                                  - My proof is in my links.  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-28-09 08:38 PM   #55 
                                                  - I read those links when you posted them.  Forkboy   Sep-28-09 08:43 PM   #56 
                                                  - I've given up. Talking to a brick wall is more effective...  DutchLiberal   Sep-28-09 08:46 PM   #57 
                                                  - And talking with you is like talking to a dining room table. nt  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-28-09 09:10 PM   #63 
                                                  - I respect your opinion Forkboy, but my opinion of Chavez remains.  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-28-09 08:54 PM   #61 
                                                  - I don't know if I can find them or not.  Forkboy   Sep-28-09 09:33 PM   #64 
                                                  - Sorry you had a bad day.  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-28-09 09:48 PM   #65 
                                                  - Then you haven't searched very hard. Deliberately, I guess.  DutchLiberal   Sep-29-09 10:29 AM   #71 
                                                  - I have seen that documentary. It didn't show  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-29-09 10:44 AM   #72 
                                                  - So death threats are when you draw the line, but a coup d'tat is okay?  DutchLiberal   Sep-29-09 10:46 AM   #73 
                                                  - Yawn. No links I see.  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-29-09 10:48 AM   #74 
                                                  - Why don't YOU start by answering all the questions I asked you, BEFORE you make demands...  DutchLiberal   Sep-29-09 10:57 AM   #75 
                                                  - ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzz.....  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-29-09 11:40 AM   #76 
  - LOL!  jefferson_dem   Sep-28-09 06:18 PM   #23 
  - Did MLK Jr. believe in dictatorship?  scheming daemons   Sep-28-09 02:01 PM   #7 
  - How has he become dictator? TIA  uponit7771   Sep-28-09 02:06 PM   #8 
  - When you shut down the opposition press  JamesA1102   Sep-28-09 06:23 PM   #27 
     - I would close media, too, if they were calling for overthrowing my government!  DutchLiberal   Sep-28-09 06:31 PM   #33 
     - And that's being a dictator!  JamesA1102   Sep-28-09 06:36 PM   #36 
     - No, that's prosecuting treasonous acts.  DutchLiberal   Sep-28-09 06:39 PM   #38 
        - you mean "prosecution" through the courts?  paulk   Sep-29-09 12:27 AM   #70 
           - Due process is only important when the shoe is on the other foot, don't you know nt  Dreamer Tatum   Sep-29-09 04:03 PM   #82 
           - According to the Constitution in Venezuela, drawn up *before* Chavez came to power...  DutchLiberal   Sep-29-09 06:26 PM   #83 
              - hmmm  paulk   Sep-29-09 09:20 PM   #93 
                 - Why don't you read the interview to find out how Chavez is doing what MLK preached?  DutchLiberal   Sep-30-09 06:52 AM   #97 
     - You're just repeating the official version  spanza   Sep-28-09 10:36 PM   #66 
        - I'm talking about RCTV, and you can see for yourself in...  DutchLiberal   Sep-29-09 06:51 PM   #88 
     - Explain why the corporate opposition still owns most of the media n/t  eridani   Sep-30-09 06:18 AM   #95 
        - You never got an answer to that question from the anti-Chavistas, did you?  DutchLiberal   Sep-30-09 07:55 AM   #98 
  - Martin would surely be proud of the comparison.  jefferson_dem   Sep-28-09 06:20 PM   #25 
  - Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't "Martin" fight for equal rights for the weak and oppressed?  DutchLiberal   Sep-28-09 06:23 PM   #28 
  - Like clockwork.  jefferson_dem   Sep-28-09 06:29 PM   #32 
     - And this from the people who only got personal insults?!  DutchLiberal   Sep-28-09 06:37 PM   #37 
     - Lots of binary thinking when it comes to Chavez from both sides.  Forkboy   Sep-28-09 06:47 PM   #42 
  - ZING! nt  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-28-09 06:32 PM   #34 
  - You need to look up the word 'dictator' in a dictionary...  DutchLiberal   Sep-28-09 06:21 PM   #26 
  - Playing the American extreme left like a fiddle. Gotta love Generalissimo Chavez.  texasleo   Sep-28-09 03:56 PM   #13 
  - More right-wing bull shit. Why are you letting the extreme right let you play you like a fiddle?  Better Believe It   Sep-28-09 04:40 PM   #16 
     - They don't have to watch Fox News  nxylas   Sep-29-09 01:51 PM   #79 
  - another look at the horrible sounds of chavez's socialist indoctrination of venezuela's youth:  RepublicanElephant   Sep-28-09 04:37 PM   #14 
  - The right-wing birthers going just as nuts over Chavez and they are Obama  Better Believe It   Sep-28-09 04:42 PM   #17 
     - yep... they attack anything that threatens the tyranny of corporate rule over our lives.  RepublicanElephant   Sep-28-09 04:45 PM   #19 
        - Indeed.  JNelson6563   Sep-28-09 06:26 PM   #30 
        - And they're getting a helping hand from so-called "liberals" at DU...  DutchLiberal   Sep-28-09 06:41 PM   #40 
  - Good for Chavez.  Vidar   Sep-28-09 05:10 PM   #20 
  - ttt  Blue_Tires   Sep-28-09 07:37 PM   #47 
  - I was taken aback by the well-spoken, informed and well-reasoned arguments Chavez made...  DutchLiberal   Sep-28-09 08:12 PM   #51 
  - He raised interesting questions: Why aren't we in the street more?  ecstatic   Sep-28-09 08:50 PM   #59 
  - It is the right that is in the street....?  spanza   Sep-28-09 10:40 PM   #67 
  - You can tell a lot about a man by the company he keeps.  Common Sense Party   Sep-29-09 12:07 PM   #77 
     - you sure can...  RepublicanElephant   Sep-29-09 01:28 PM   #78 
     - You forgot Chavez and John Paul II; and Chavez with Bill Clinton:  DutchLiberal   Sep-29-09 06:48 PM   #87 
     - You can tell even more from a leaders actions.  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-29-09 01:56 PM   #80 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Sep-29-09 03:56 PM   #81 
     - Good for Chavez to stand up against Israeli war crimes!  DutchLiberal   Sep-29-09 06:34 PM   #85 
     - Then Obama is a dictator, too!  DutchLiberal   Sep-29-09 06:33 PM   #84 
        - Get back to me when Obama puts any of these fools in jail.  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-29-09 06:37 PM   #86 
           - Get back to me when Chavez does so. Shifting arguments again.  DutchLiberal   Sep-29-09 06:53 PM   #89 
              - Well as fun as it's been discussing this with you.  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-29-09 06:57 PM   #90 
                 - That's because facts don't influence you. Yor opinion is based on nothing.  DutchLiberal   Sep-29-09 07:08 PM   #91 
                    - You have offered no facts,  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-29-09 07:53 PM   #92 
                       - I have offered truckloads of facts, Anti-Chavistas all share the same tactic of ignoring them  DutchLiberal   Sep-30-09 06:49 AM   #96 

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