Reply #11: Casey -

[karynnj]

He is concerns with DC language - win/lose victory/defeat - counterproductive. Words used to describe success were sustainable stability - is that the same in Afghanistan. Crocker says he agrees that sustainable stability is good as is Lockhart's "good enough governance". If it provides a situation for the country's security forces to achieve sustainable stability, it is good. Don't know what it will look like.

Casey to Dr Lockhart, what of a civilian surge - was impressed how well integrated they were when he visited. How many? How do we get it right with international partners? Lockhart says probably not more than 1000 needed. Real thorough look at the gaps in Afghan competencies. (Gap with no schools in Afghan hurts developing civil service.) Need to look at World Bank. Need to look at what Europe and China could do.