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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 12:23 AM
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7. I just want to read the legislation after it is signed!
Edited on Thu Sep-10-09 12:23 AM by CoffeeCat
All of this means nothing.

This is not about Obama.

This is about what passes.

Obama didn't mandate that a bill had to have a public option in it. So, as it has been since the onset of this
process, it's up to Congress to come up with a bill.

So, let's see it all ready.

I really don't care about any of the personalities involved. I don't care about speeches. I don't
care about what group wants this and what group is mad or upset or happy or hopeful.

That's noise.

Let's see the damn bill and get on with our lives. Then we'll truly know how we stand. We'll know if corporate interests won, or if
we have meaningful healthcare reform.

Until then, it's just noise, noise, noise.
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  -Now that the Public Option is not dead, the outrage of the day is that it'll take 4 years Uzybone  Sep-10-09 12:02 AM   #0 
  - Government time is like geology. lol I wouldn't expect anything sooner, really.  msallied   Sep-10-09 12:03 AM   #1 
  - If you read between the lines, The Public Option is not only dead ...  ShortnFiery   Sep-10-09 12:03 AM   #2 
  - "Reading between the lines" also gets you to death panels.  moondust   Sep-10-09 01:18 AM   #24 
  - I would bet money that  Control-Z   Sep-10-09 02:41 AM   #25 
  - Hope springs eternal.  ShortnFiery   Sep-10-09 08:16 AM   #41 
  - you have chosen that you will be pissed off and bitter no matter what happens. it's funny actually.  dionysus   Sep-10-09 08:29 AM   #43 
  - I'm still crossing my fingers that the 4 years thing is not set in stone and is a very  GreenPartyVoter   Sep-10-09 12:04 AM   #3 
  - it is not set in stone, no bill has been signed  Uzybone   Sep-10-09 12:06 AM   #6 
  - Don't give up HOPE. Maybe the public option IS dead, after all! nt  Honeycombe8   Sep-10-09 12:06 AM   #4 
  - I get the feeling some here wish that is so, just so they could do a "i told you so" routine and  dionysus   Sep-10-09 09:24 AM   #49 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-10-09 12:06 AM   #5 
  - I just want to read the legislation after it is signed!  CoffeeCat   Sep-10-09 12:23 AM   #7 
  - The public option isn't a lock, and it never was. The fact that everyone won't have the option to  ej510   Sep-10-09 12:29 AM   #9 
  - Do we know for sure that this bill won't have the public option???  CoffeeCat   Sep-10-09 12:51 AM   #14 
  - That definitely needs to be clarified  Egnever   Sep-10-09 01:05 AM   #20 
  - Well said  Egnever   Sep-10-09 01:01 AM   #18 
  - Professional  Cha   Sep-10-09 12:28 AM   #8 
  - There professionals all right.  avaistheone1   Sep-10-09 12:40 AM   #10 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-10-09 12:43 AM   #11 
     - your favorite team loses? obama's fault  dionysus   Sep-10-09 09:00 AM   #46 
     - So, if we just don't pass healthcare reform at all because it's not single-payer, it will be at  4lbs   Sep-10-09 12:46 AM   #12 
     - Did you miss the part about giving government insurance to people who need catastrophic  rockymountaindem   Sep-10-09 06:25 AM   #35 
     - High deductible so called "catastrophic" insurance  depakid   Sep-10-09 09:51 AM   #55 
     - ah so, blood is on obama's hands... yes, the people cha are talking about fill their pampers daily.  dionysus   Sep-10-09 08:51 AM   #44 
     - So yeah, blame President Obama  Cha   Sep-10-09 11:33 AM   #56 
  - Rec'd. NOTHING is ever good enough. NOTHING is ever right. NOTHING is ever enough.  Number23   Sep-10-09 12:49 AM   #13 
  - Better to have "nothing" than GIFT 900 Billion to the already bloated Insurance Industry.  ShortnFiery   Sep-10-09 12:53 AM   #15 
  - It is not a gift  quaker bill   Sep-10-09 05:56 AM   #34 
  - That sounds like an abusive parent...  CoffeeCat   Sep-10-09 12:54 AM   #17 
  - Yes. It is not going to be easy.  treestar   Sep-10-09 06:27 AM   #36 
  - Nothing is ever good enough for whom?  girl gone mad   Sep-10-09 04:44 AM   #33 
  - Who said the Public Option is dead?  and-justice-for-all   Sep-10-09 12:54 AM   #16 
  - Nobody. They are "reading between the lines" aka pulling shit out of their asses  TheKentuckian   Sep-10-09 01:07 AM   #21 
  - And I worry about the misinformation from the M$M..  and-justice-for-all   Sep-10-09 01:10 AM   #22 
  - It is getting a bit suspicious  treestar   Sep-10-09 06:30 AM   #37 
  - Depends on your definition of "dead"  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-10-09 03:08 AM   #26 
  - We will have to wait and see the actual bill...  and-justice-for-all   Sep-10-09 03:24 AM   #28 
     - I don't see how a true public option, open to all, can coexist with a corporatist mandate  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-10-09 04:11 AM   #30 
        - Ok, this is what I see coming...  and-justice-for-all   Sep-10-09 04:15 AM   #31 
  - the people who will never be satisfied are saying it on this thread right now.  dionysus   Sep-10-09 08:52 AM   #45 
  - "Many of those who are now whining...were praising Bill Moyers..."  brentspeak   Sep-10-09 01:02 AM   #19 
  - How about chilling  depakid   Sep-10-09 03:34 AM   #29 
  - (shrug) DU started as a protest site. That's about all many here know how to do...  BlooInBloo   Sep-10-09 01:11 AM   #23 
  - Errr from what I heard- and from what's in the bill(s) that Obama seemed to endorse  depakid   Sep-10-09 03:17 AM   #27 
  - Um, no. The outrage is that is seems private insurance is the center  rucky   Sep-10-09 04:20 AM   #32 
  - The public option was like a rotten bone tossed out to appease  joeycola   Sep-10-09 06:56 AM   #38 
  - Exhibit A of why appeasing moderates makes more sense than appeasing liberals.  Nicholas D Wolfwood   Sep-10-09 07:55 AM   #39 
  - hey man, not fair. not all liberals are constantly pissy like that.  dionysus   Sep-10-09 09:01 AM   #47 
     - Of course not. I myself am not.  Nicholas D Wolfwood   Sep-10-09 09:24 AM   #48 
  - Why SHOULD it take 4 years when Medicare was set up in one?  Phoebe Loosinhouse   Sep-10-09 08:13 AM   #40 
  - $$$$ is why  TheKentuckian   Sep-10-09 08:19 AM   #42 
  - Smaller impact on the budget.  Nicholas D Wolfwood   Sep-10-09 09:25 AM   #50 
     - And I suppose that's why it's figured to cost 900B over the next 10 years...  MrMickeysMom   Sep-10-09 09:44 AM   #52 
  - You're still pretending that the prez said anyone could buy into the public option...  polichick   Sep-10-09 09:34 AM   #51 
  - How big do you think that fraction is gonna grow?  MrMickeysMom   Sep-10-09 09:46 AM   #53 
     - If they "handcuff it" - as Sen. McCaskill said they will (on Morning Joe)...  polichick   Sep-10-09 01:12 PM   #57 
        - I love all these metaphors...  MrMickeysMom   Sep-10-09 07:17 PM   #59 
  - It's apparently dead as an option for anyone except the chronically unisurable  depakid   Sep-10-09 09:46 AM   #54 
  - Tell that to the families of the 80,000 Americans who will DIE in those  Zoeisright   Sep-10-09 02:02 PM   #58 

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