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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 04:15 PM
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123. While attempting to deny what I'm saying, you actually support much of it.
Edited on Wed Sep-09-09 04:21 PM by BzaDem
I said that Germany and the Netherlands do not have a public option. You confirmed they don't. Thank you.

As for regulation, you should read the bill. The insurance exchanges will be heavily regulated. The government decides which plans are acceptable based upon whether they offer a certain minimum set of benefits and other sets of criteria. Of course they won't be regulated as much as they are in Switzerland and the Netherlands. But it will be a huge start, and more importantly, it will actually large numbers help real people. You are willing to throw that away. How does that make you any different than Republicans who would also vote against a bill that helps large numbers of real people?

When did I say literally no one in the world agrees with your thinking? Of course it is a moral question. If that's what you mean by "your thinking," I agree with that. I'm just saying that has nothing to do with the bill we will end up getting from Congress.

Your argument about the Senate rules is laughable. Bills fail all the time that have 50+ votes but not 60 votes. In particular, Joe Lieberman would relish being able to kill a public option, and he has recently said that he would vote to kill it (even if he were the 60th vote). Your argument relies on people like Joe Lieberman. That alone should give you pause.

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