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79. Um, hi, I am a Democrat person.
Edited on Fri Sep-04-09 12:25 PM by rudy23
I do not like George W. Bush. Go Obama. I am a Democrat. I promise. Down with Bush. See? The end.
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  -BREAKING: Chuck Todd reports on MSNBC TV now that the public option stays Politics_Guy25  Sep-04-09 11:07 AM   #0 
  - It won't matter here. But thank you for the report. nt  DevonRex   Sep-04-09 11:09 AM   #1 
  - yeah  CitizenPatriot   Sep-04-09 12:20 PM   #76 
  - All I want is for people to wait to hear what he says to the joint session of Congress  DevonRex   Sep-04-09 12:44 PM   #92 
  - LOL- good point!  CitizenPatriot   Sep-04-09 03:33 PM   #123 
  - If he announces that the health care bill must have a robust public option  JDPriestly   Sep-04-09 07:40 PM   #141 
  - agree, NO trigger- unless it is a reverse trigger to END a public option if it doesn't work in 8 yrs  tomm2thumbs   Sep-04-09 09:07 PM   # 
  - dupe slipped thru  tomm2thumbs   Sep-04-09 09:07 PM   #149 
  - To be fair, it's not as if O has been silent on this matter all spring & summer.  Honeycombe8   Sep-05-09 09:18 AM   #168 
  - Amen, brother (or sister) . . . you should re-write this as a stand-alone post. nt  mistertrickster   Sep-04-09 05:06 PM   #135 
  - But Obama promised to drive the lobbyists out! That's what ticks me off.  RedCloud   Sep-05-09 05:37 AM   #165 
  - if there wasn't all the anger and pushback, that "report" would not have come  CreekDog   Sep-05-09 09:20 AM   #169 
  - makes sense to me. NT  Clio the Leo   Sep-04-09 11:09 AM   #2 
  - BTW  Politics_Guy25   Sep-04-09 11:12 AM   #8 
     - Some people don't seem to get that or just would rather go down in flames instead. It's crazy.  Pirate Smile   Sep-04-09 11:19 AM   #21 
     - I've decided to start calling the "down in flames" crowd "Kamikaze Liberals". nt  Cant trust em   Sep-04-09 11:29 AM   #42 
     - Or Kamikaze  Cha   Sep-04-09 01:29 PM   #103 
     - It was solely the RIGHT's faultthat no basic reforms were enacted in '93  Ken Burch   Sep-04-09 02:10 PM   #108 
     - Compromise is ALWAYS needed. NT  Clio the Leo   Sep-04-09 11:32 AM   #44 
     - As long as we keep vigilant and make sure those triggers work!  CTyankee   Sep-04-09 11:58 AM   #61 
  - The trigger option is ALSO unacceptable.  RoccoR5955   Sep-04-09 11:10 AM   #3 
  - no changes at all are better? I'm not sure.  stray cat   Sep-04-09 11:12 AM   #9 
  - Uninsured people with pre-existing conditions can wait, I guess. Too bad for them.  Pirate Smile   Sep-04-09 11:21 AM   #27 
  - A someone with a pre-existing condition I would like to see that part of the bill pass  Jennicut   Sep-04-09 11:25 AM   #38 
  - So if a bill passes making it illegal for the ins cos to reject pre-existing conditions,  RoccoR5955   Sep-04-09 03:26 PM   #121 
  - As Someone with pre-existing conditions, I would love to see that pass  quakerboy   Sep-04-09 09:46 PM   #154 
     - I also have a pre-existing condition, and I agree with you 100%.  amandabeech   Sep-05-09 10:28 AM   #174 
  - Since they won't be able to afford insurance without a public option  Ken Burch   Sep-04-09 02:11 PM   #109 
  - Why do you assume that's the alternative?  DrToast   Sep-04-09 11:22 AM   #32 
  - It is certainly as likely as you getting everything you want  stray cat   Sep-04-09 12:07 PM   #68 
  - With no public option, yes, no bill is better  WeDidIt   Sep-04-09 12:33 PM   #87 
  - No, we need at very least, a public option, for direct competition with corporations. n/t  RoccoR5955   Sep-04-09 03:27 PM   #122 
  - Come on!!  Politics_Guy25   Sep-04-09 11:14 AM   #13 
  - Giving up public option, whether directly or through the 'trigger'  tekisui   Sep-04-09 11:19 AM   #22 
  - UNWILLING TO COMPROMISE ????  MNDemNY   Sep-04-09 11:23 AM   #33 
  - Bingo.  ihavenobias   Sep-04-09 02:41 PM   #115 
  - some folks haven't been paying attention apparently  fascisthunter   Sep-04-09 06:41 PM   #137 
  - Nothing angers republicans more  Froward69   Sep-04-09 11:36 AM   #49 
  - It depends on the bill!  slay   Sep-04-09 12:33 PM   #86 
  - It would be decades.  Pirate Smile   Sep-04-09 12:47 PM   #94 
  - You don't compromise with a dining room table.  RoccoR5955   Sep-04-09 03:20 PM   #120 
  - Why should we settle for anything less than Canada or much of Europe?  Bonn1997   Sep-04-09 08:40 PM   #148 
  - Why should we comprimise when we don't have to?  DUlover2909   Sep-04-09 09:58 PM   #155 
  - We went from Public Option, to no Public Option to  Tippy   Sep-04-09 11:17 AM   #20 
  - Kerry said he'll push for strong public option at 60, then 50, and trigger if all else fails. Very  MarjorieG   Sep-04-09 02:14 PM   #111 
     - This is like telling the buyer of your home what your bottom price is,  lame54   Sep-05-09 08:07 AM   #166 
  - indeed. NOT acceptable.  joeycola   Sep-04-09 11:55 AM   #57 
  - who says you get to decide what's acceptable?  Teaser   Sep-04-09 03:38 PM   #126 
  - Agree...  Hepburn   Sep-04-09 08:00 PM   #142 
  - Agreed. Just another way to allow the insurance companies to continue screwing the American people.  man4allcats   Sep-04-09 09:29 PM   #150 
  - I seem to remember the PO wasn't immediate in the 1st place  Born_A_Truman   Sep-04-09 11:11 AM   #4 
  - That is WAY different than a "trigger" .  MNDemNY   Sep-04-09 11:15 AM   #17 
  - Al Franken brought up, while schooling a Tbagger,  druidity33   Sep-05-09 08:59 AM   #167 
  - it comes in later, liberalpragmatist had this awesome post from the other day about it  Jennicut   Sep-04-09 11:19 AM   #23 
  - Phasing it in is one thing... giving the Insurance industry a trigger is another thing entirely..nt  Blasphemer   Sep-04-09 02:43 PM   #116 
  - Thanks Chuckles for finally joining reality  tridim   Sep-04-09 11:12 AM   #5 
  - Public option with triggers is a public option that will never happen.  rudy23   Sep-04-09 11:12 AM   #6 
  - I agree. People need to push harder now: No trigger.  DrToast   Sep-04-09 11:13 AM   #10 
  - +1  GrantDem   Sep-04-09 12:22 PM   #78 
  - +1 more  slay   Sep-04-09 12:35 PM   #88 
  - Bravo to the CPC for standing their ground  DrToast   Sep-04-09 11:12 AM   #7 
  - Baucus today declared that the Gang of Six was a disaster, in so many words  Jennicut   Sep-04-09 11:22 AM   #31 
  - I hope so! Why all the hocus pocus? If so, why aren't they bolder about it?  Captain Hilts   Sep-04-09 11:13 AM   #11 
  - Exactly as I predicted above. It won't matter to DU that this was reported. nt  DevonRex   Sep-04-09 11:15 AM   #15 
     - A trigger is NOT an option.  MNDemNY   Sep-04-09 11:16 AM   #18 
     - The WH is not generating a clear message. nt  Captain Hilts   Sep-04-09 11:23 AM   #34 
     - Nonsense, his message couldn't be more  ProSense   Sep-04-09 11:34 AM   #47 
        - The voices in their heads have told them otherwise.  DevonRex   Sep-04-09 11:36 AM   #48 
        - He needs to get his cabinet on message.  Captain Hilts   Sep-04-09 11:46 AM   #56 
        - It's his chief of staff that drives me crazy.  yodermon   Sep-04-09 02:14 PM   #110 
     - Yes, but if you notice, it is the same ones, over and over...  Spazito   Sep-04-09 12:05 PM   #67 
        - I'm pretty discouraged. Not about Obama but about DU. nt  DevonRex   Sep-04-09 12:09 PM   #71 
           - Don't be discouraged about DU...  Spazito   Sep-04-09 12:31 PM   #83 
              - Yeah, that's pretty much what I do..  Cha   Sep-04-09 01:48 PM   #105 
                 - Well, this is my last post until after the speech. This site is intolerable  DevonRex   Sep-04-09 01:55 PM   #107 
                 - You're inspiring, DevonRex..  Cha   Sep-04-09 10:45 PM   #156 
                 - LOL, I, too, get caught up in the frenzy at times, forgetting my own advice to myself...  Spazito   Sep-04-09 02:18 PM   #112 
  - a "trigger" is a cope-out. Too easy to delay or reverse.  MNDemNY   Sep-04-09 11:14 AM   #12 
  - It is the same as it's always has been but people get wee weed up and go off half-cocked.  Pirate Smile   Sep-04-09 11:15 AM   #14 
  - Doesn't matter. The trolls here will still scream that the sky is falling and  bushisanidiot   Sep-04-09 11:15 AM   #16 
  - Yep. Busy moving goalposts as we speak. nt  DevonRex   Sep-04-09 11:16 AM   #19 
  - No need to move them ,the kick is well short of the goal.  MNDemNY   Sep-04-09 11:19 AM   #24 
  - As I predicted, it won't matter what Obama said. nt  DevonRex   Sep-04-09 11:21 AM   #28 
     - See what he says next week.  MNDemNY   Sep-04-09 11:24 AM   #35 
        - See what he says next week. nt  DevonRex   Sep-04-09 11:25 AM   #39 
  - What kind of public option?  ej510   Sep-04-09 11:20 AM   #25 
  - As I predicted, it won't matter what Obama said. nt  DevonRex   Sep-04-09 11:21 AM   #29 
  - Seems to me it's Obama moving the goalposts...  Junkdrawer   Sep-04-09 11:28 AM   #41 
     - As I predicted, it won't matter what Obama said. nt  DevonRex   Sep-04-09 11:31 AM   #43 
        - Seems to me it's Obama moving the goalposts...  Junkdrawer   Sep-04-09 11:37 AM   #50 
  - Most of the trolls I've seen are the ones who blindly support Obama's corporate streak.  rudy23   Sep-04-09 12:02 PM   #62 
  - AWOL Bush picks his nose in public and eats what he found.  bushisanidiot   Sep-04-09 12:08 PM   #69 
     - Um, hi, I am a Democrat person.  rudy23   Sep-04-09 12:24 PM   #79 
     - You are not helping  slay   Sep-04-09 12:53 PM   #96 
  - Doesn't matter. The trolls here will still sell out the public option just to score Obama a ""win""  slay   Sep-04-09 12:36 PM   #89 
     - Sorry, dude but the trolls are the anti-Obama idiots who are looking  bushisanidiot   Sep-04-09 01:48 PM   #104 
        - A "win" is not a WIN without the public option  slay   Sep-04-09 01:51 PM   #106 
        - no man... like not  fascisthunter   Sep-04-09 06:41 PM   #138 
  - Of Course, Never Doubted For A Second, And I Will ALSO Predict NO TRIGGER  Beetwasher   Sep-04-09 11:20 AM   #26 
  - Breaking: the media suck  ProSense   Sep-04-09 11:22 AM   #30 
  - This has to be a REAL public option...  CoffeeCat   Sep-04-09 11:24 AM   #36 
  - Ahaahahaha Chuck Todd is like if you gave a drunk a notepad and a Blackberry  Arkana   Sep-04-09 11:24 AM   #37 
  - I am withholding all judgment until next Wednesday.  Cant trust em   Sep-04-09 11:27 AM   #40 
  - +1 for rational thought. nt  DevonRex   Sep-04-09 11:37 AM   #51 
  - This is what I thought  Froward69   Sep-04-09 11:33 AM   #45 
  - A trigger essentially neuters the public option.  drm604   Sep-04-09 11:34 AM   #46 
  - Hear Here!!!!  Froward69   Sep-04-09 11:42 AM   #53 
  - IMO..  mvd   Sep-04-09 12:19 PM   #75 
  - Triggers work in other areas, for example extensions of unemployment  quiller4   Sep-05-09 02:26 AM   #163 
  - Obama needs to sell the public option in his speech next week. nm  TeamJordan23   Sep-04-09 11:38 AM   #52 
  - At least, or He needs to nationalize big insurance or give us single payer next week, IMHO  grahamhgreen   Sep-05-09 01:34 AM   #160 
  - He does, he doesn't he is, he isn't , he will, he won't  Lorien   Sep-04-09 11:42 AM   #54 
  - the wishy washy approarch the WH is taking is dooming the bill.  joeycola   Sep-04-09 11:56 AM   #59 
  - Is it intentional? That's my question.  rudy23   Sep-04-09 12:03 PM   #65 
  - I agree. It sems odd that is for sure. Yet, the WH approach is not  joeycola   Sep-04-09 01:26 PM   #100 
  - Maybe it's some people's wishy washy hearing that's dooming the bill in their own mind. n/t  ProSense   Sep-04-09 12:17 PM   #74 
     - Hi ProSense. Perhaps some hear better. Have a nice day.  joeycola   Sep-04-09 01:25 PM   #99 
  - Hopefully he clears it up in his speech  Jennicut   Sep-04-09 11:57 AM   #60 
  - Obama has never said anything other than he supports the public option, and  ProSense   Sep-04-09 12:15 PM   #73 
     - Will Obama speak for Obama and say he's against triggers or co-ops?  rudy23   Sep-04-09 12:26 PM   #81 
  - Want a trigger? Trust the market to fix this? Then make it for single payer  TheKentuckian   Sep-04-09 11:45 AM   #55 
  - Ben Nelson is signaling support for the "trigger" as compromise  jefferson_dem   Sep-04-09 11:56 AM   #58 
  - Oh, if Nelson's for it then you know damn well that trigger will never go off.  gkhouston   Sep-04-09 04:54 PM   #132 
  - Remember  Robbins   Sep-04-09 12:03 PM   #63 
  - "some kind" of public option could mean NO public option if we're not careful about what kind it is.  rudy23   Sep-04-09 12:05 PM   #66 
  - "A trigger may be required to get Health Care reform passed." Nope:  ProSense   Sep-04-09 12:09 PM   #70 
     - are there even 51 votes? Last I read it was 46. n/t  Orangepeel   Sep-04-09 12:44 PM   #91 
     - 49  ProSense   Sep-04-09 12:46 PM   #93 
     - I agree - much better to go with 51 and a public option! nt  polichick   Sep-04-09 12:59 PM   #98 
  - this was obvious  grantcart   Sep-04-09 12:03 PM   #64 
  - Ahhh yes... The "trigger" -->>  GrantDem   Sep-04-09 12:13 PM   #72 
  - Medicare Part D has a "trigger" too.  bvar22   Sep-04-09 12:21 PM   #77 
  - The trigger will have a lock on it  WeDidIt   Sep-04-09 12:47 PM   #95 
     - There are a lot of SUCKERS on DU.  bvar22   Sep-04-09 02:28 PM   #114 
        - No suckers...Most have ins. and are looking for a rate cut.  ipaint   Sep-04-09 02:54 PM   #117 
  - With a trigger option, we may as well do nothing at all.  madfloridian   Sep-04-09 12:26 PM   #80 
  - Exactly  slay   Sep-04-09 12:31 PM   #84 
  - Luckily, it appears to be under consideration by the media. n/t  ProSense   Sep-04-09 12:39 PM   #90 
  - The trigger means "for now, just go away!" and later on guess what you'll hear?  kenny blankenship   Sep-04-09 02:24 PM   #113 
  - "Public option" VS "Trigger provision"  slay   Sep-04-09 12:30 PM   #82 
  - Please please please let this be true  WeDidIt   Sep-04-09 12:31 PM   #85 
  - Semantics. The trigger IS walking away from the public option. nt  polichick   Sep-04-09 12:54 PM   #97 
  - Yeah, I fucking knew he wasn't.  Cha   Sep-04-09 01:27 PM   #101 
  - sound like its how you define public option in the bill  bigdarryl   Sep-04-09 01:29 PM   #102 
  - a po trigger?  d_b   Sep-04-09 02:58 PM   #118 
  - The haters have already been prepping for their outrage with the qualifier "strong"  alcibiades_mystery   Sep-04-09 03:03 PM   #119 
  - so where are the haters?  Enrique   Sep-04-09 03:37 PM   #125 
  - what, no cracks about the MSM?  Enrique   Sep-04-09 03:33 PM   #124 
  - The trigger is bullshit. No meaningful legislation has ever been "triggered".  LaydeeBug   Sep-04-09 03:48 PM   #127 
  - This goes back and forth all the time...  freddie mertz   Sep-04-09 03:51 PM   #128 
  - It damn well better stay.  bigwillq   Sep-04-09 03:54 PM   #129 
  - DU disruptor(s) un-reccing this one big time  Kingofalldems   Sep-04-09 04:02 PM   #130 
  - The trigger option is a sell out. People need access to health care now  Cleita   Sep-04-09 04:50 PM   #131 
  - A trigger is simply a way to kill the public option while trying to save face...  S_E_Fudd   Sep-04-09 04:55 PM   #133 
  - I agree.  Lex   Sep-04-09 09:39 PM   #151 
  - But . . . but . . . but . . . bitter tears of disappointment are so much more fufilling for  mistertrickster   Sep-04-09 05:03 PM   #134 
  - I *want* to believe  SemiCharmedQuark   Sep-04-09 06:36 PM   #136 
  - No Trigger  fascisthunter   Sep-04-09 06:44 PM   #139 
  - The public option does matter and we will be supporters if he insists on it.  MasonJar   Sep-04-09 07:17 PM   #140 
  - No's nothing without being strong with no trigger..  bkkyosemite   Sep-04-09 08:05 PM   #143 
  - Jerry Brown has decided to go after United Health and others because they are denying  bkkyosemite   Sep-04-09 08:07 PM   #144 
  - OK people....  mudstump   Sep-04-09 08:14 PM   #145 
  - the media is playing everyone  krawhitham   Sep-04-09 08:21 PM   #146 
  - It seems to me that Medicare for all would be easier to sell to the public than the public option  vssmith   Sep-04-09 08:25 PM   #147 
  - Translation  jgraz   Sep-04-09 09:41 PM   #152 
  - Obama will get this. The drama queens will still whine, though.  Colobo   Sep-04-09 09:45 PM   #153 
  - Yanno ..... some people have some principles that matter to them.  Stinky The Clown   Sep-04-09 11:50 PM   #157 
  - How many more will die waiting for the 'trigger' - they are killing people. Unacceptable. Immoral.  grahamhgreen   Sep-05-09 01:31 AM   #158 
  - The trigger is a stalling tactic. The public health plan must not haver a trigger.  avaistheone1   Sep-05-09 01:33 AM   #159 
  - I think we are being played.  McCamy Taylor   Sep-05-09 02:19 AM   #161 
  - He abandoned it months ago  jeanpalmer   Sep-05-09 02:24 AM   #162 
  - I thought we weren't supposed to believe the MSM.  Amos Moses   Sep-05-09 03:58 AM   #164 
  - A trigger provision for a Public Option is no Public Option at all. Keeping our powder dry?  newportdadde   Sep-05-09 09:22 AM   #170 
  - Yes No Yes No Yes No Yes No Yes No Yes No Yes No Yes No Yes No Yes No Yes No Yes No Yes No Yes No  Gman   Sep-05-09 09:42 AM   #171 
  - a trigger is NOT a public option  Faryn Balyncd   Sep-05-09 09:53 AM   #172 
  - Obama must get the message: TRIGGERS DON'T COUNT :  Faryn Balyncd   Sep-05-09 10:05 AM   #173 
  - K & R  Kaleko   Sep-05-09 04:56 PM   #175 
  - He never was. n/t  vaberella   Sep-05-09 05:03 PM   #176 

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