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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 01:11 AM
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84. The last Trigger that worked was the one Roy Rogers rode on!
And we remember that Trigger got stuffed, too!
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  -WH luring Snowe with 'trigger' on public option Pirate Smile  Sep-02-09 05:17 PM   #0 
  - Please, please, PLEASE make it so! Join our team Ollie! nt  Captain Hilts   Sep-02-09 05:18 PM   #1 
  - The infamous trigger. Is it perfect? NO! Is it reform? YES!  jefferson_dem   Sep-02-09 05:20 PM   #2 
  - This is where I thought we would end up. It is the stick to use on the Insurance Co's.  Pirate Smile   Sep-02-09 05:23 PM   #7 
  - oh great. another donut hole. so, we give the insurance companies  roguevalley   Sep-03-09 01:11 AM   #85 
     - You need a sedative. (nt)  Nicholas D Wolfwood   Sep-03-09 08:24 AM   #88 
     - really? you need a clue.  roguevalley   Sep-03-09 03:38 PM   #110 
     - You ARE a sedative. n/t  Starry Messenger   Sep-03-09 07:20 PM   #121 
     - You Think They Wouldn't if They Had the Votes?  BlueDemKev   Sep-03-09 12:10 PM   #102 
  - NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO  Joe Bacon   Sep-02-09 06:56 PM   #47 
  - Consider this....  BlueDemKev   Sep-02-09 07:57 PM   #49 
     - but the public option saves money  CreekDog   Sep-02-09 08:07 PM   #50 
     - Do You Know That For A Fact?  BlueDemKev   Sep-02-09 08:20 PM   #51 
        - The CBO says its cheaper than not having a public option  CreekDog   Sep-02-09 09:15 PM   #64 
        - The CBO has already reported that a *ROBUST* public option will save billions  Liberal_Stalwart71   Sep-03-09 09:50 AM   #91 
     - A bill WITHOUT a Public Option IS NOTHING!  Joe Bacon   Sep-02-09 08:59 PM   #60 
     - Let's Just Calm Down....  BlueDemKev   Sep-02-09 09:47 PM   #67 
        - Do you have healthcare?  Mystayya   Sep-02-09 09:59 PM   #71 
        - I Understand....  BlueDemKev   Sep-02-09 10:49 PM   #72 
           - Yes I will invest the non- existant money I have at the end of the month....  Mystayya   Sep-02-09 11:08 PM   #75 
           - Understand my pain? NO YOU DON'T!  Joe Bacon   Sep-02-09 11:11 PM   #76 
              - I am right there with you  Mystayya   Sep-02-09 11:15 PM   #78 
              - It is ironic that given your situation, you would happily consign millions to the same situation  BzaDem   Sep-02-09 11:16 PM   #79 
              - -1 unrec your post  IndianaGreen   Sep-02-09 11:18 PM   #82 
              - So tell me how toothless health insurance reform will work!  Joe Bacon   Sep-02-09 11:29 PM   #83 
              - +1 rec  IndianaGreen   Sep-02-09 11:17 PM   #80 
              - *Sigh*  BlueDemKev   Sep-03-09 07:36 AM   #87 
              - DREAM ON!  Joe Bacon   Sep-03-09 01:56 PM   #103 
                 - You are a Classic Living Example....  BlueDemKev   Sep-03-09 03:37 PM   #109 
                    - And you wouldn't be blocking the way  Joe Bacon   Sep-03-09 07:03 PM   #117 
              - You can refuse to compromise, but then you won't get anything  treestar   Sep-03-09 03:41 PM   #111 
                 - You're going to get nothing anyway!  Joe Bacon   Sep-03-09 07:05 PM   #118 
        - Let's not calm down.  avaistheone1   Sep-03-09 10:55 AM   #97 
           - Medicare for All  BlueDemKev   Sep-03-09 11:49 AM   #100 
           - No Threat of Terror Attacks in U.S.?  BlueDemKev   Sep-03-09 11:55 AM   #101 
              - Hmm, see those pics of guys with the guns at Obama rallies?  Joe Bacon   Sep-03-09 02:09 PM   #106 
                 - Terrorism is Terrorism  BlueDemKev   Sep-03-09 03:23 PM   #107 
     - Do you have healthcare?  Mystayya   Sep-02-09 09:58 PM   #70 
     - We're not getting anything we want  dflprincess   Sep-02-09 11:02 PM   #74 
        - Look Again....  BlueDemKev   Sep-03-09 09:44 AM   #89 
           - Not true  Joe Bacon   Sep-03-09 02:05 PM   #105 
              - This is NOT the Finance Committee Bill....  BlueDemKev   Sep-03-09 03:33 PM   #108 
                 - That IS the bill he wants  Joe Bacon   Sep-03-09 07:07 PM   #119 
                    - Why do you believe....  BlueDemKev   Sep-03-09 09:01 PM   #122 
                       - He never said that in the campaign  Joe Bacon   Sep-03-09 09:36 PM   #123 
                          - State Level?  BlueDemKev   Sep-04-09 11:54 AM   #125 
  - I agree...I'll accept this  BlueDemKev   Sep-02-09 07:52 PM   #48 
  - Once again, A BILL WITH NO PUBLIC OPTION IS USELESS!  Joe Bacon   Sep-02-09 09:06 PM   #62 
  - The trigger. Is it perfect? NO! Is it reform? NO! Will the trigger ever be pulled? HELL NO!  Better Believe It   Sep-02-09 08:35 PM   #54 
  - It can be pulled  BlueDemKev   Sep-02-09 09:51 PM   #68 
     - But it won't be. You know it and I know it.  Mystayya   Sep-02-09 11:12 PM   #77 
     - Yes, It Can...  BlueDemKev   Sep-03-09 09:46 AM   #90 
        - So another 10 years or so? Maybe 20?  Mystayya   Sep-03-09 09:51 AM   #92 
           - Work Cut Out  BlueDemKev   Sep-03-09 11:46 AM   #99 
     - Of as a male private insurance industry lobbyist might say to you: "Yank this!"  Better Believe It   Sep-03-09 10:43 AM   #95 
  - Ditto!  Phx_Dem   Sep-03-09 10:10 AM   #93 
  - a thousand times better than coops  grantcart   Sep-03-09 02:03 PM   #104 
  - Please, I hope this isn't necessary.  drm604   Sep-02-09 05:21 PM   #3 
  - I'm only for a trigger if its like a guaranteed trigger  bluestateguy   Sep-02-09 05:21 PM   #4 
  - The trigger may be a negotiating strategy allowing Snowe to cross the line  grantcart   Sep-02-09 05:23 PM   #6 
  - Good point  wryter2000   Sep-02-09 05:32 PM   #22 
     - It's possible  mvd   Sep-02-09 05:35 PM   #24 
        - Keep your eye on Snowe  grantcart   Sep-02-09 06:42 PM   #44 
           - We had voluntary reforms in '93. Will these be super regulated and benchmarked?  MarjorieG   Sep-02-09 08:46 PM   #58 
           - She has said she does not support a Public Option  Joe Bacon   Sep-02-09 09:09 PM   #63 
  - Yeah, I read there was a trigger proposed with Medicare Part D  mvd   Sep-02-09 05:24 PM   #9 
  - I thought the Medicare Part D bill had a pilot privatization plan for Medicare to start in '09  bluestateguy   Sep-02-09 05:28 PM   #15 
     - Haven't heard about that either  mvd   Sep-02-09 05:30 PM   #19 
  - Even if they did eventually get their act together to prevent the triggering of this thing  drm604   Sep-02-09 05:25 PM   #10 
  - Well said Sir/Madam!! Well said.. nt  quantass   Sep-02-09 05:28 PM   #14 
  - Exactly  mvd   Sep-02-09 05:30 PM   #20 
  - Yup.  Canuckistanian   Sep-02-09 05:49 PM   #29 
  - It will have to be some very definitive criteria.  Cant trust em   Sep-02-09 05:44 PM   #27 
  - That ain't going to happen. This is just a game to make it look like reform without the reform  debbierlus   Sep-02-09 05:51 PM   #31 
  - This could be very significant  grantcart   Sep-02-09 05:21 PM   #5 
  - Drats. One more thing the WH is willing to give up just to pass ANY bill!!!!  joeycola   Sep-02-09 05:23 PM   #8 
  - Hmm...dont like it since it leaves room for Abuse for several years UNTIL  quantass   Sep-02-09 05:25 PM   #11 
  - Come on know you want to.  Jennicut   Sep-02-09 05:26 PM   #12 
  - Another BS compromise.  GrantDem   Sep-02-09 05:26 PM   #13 
  - If its a trigger to pass the bill out of committee and into reconciliation  FrenchieCat   Sep-02-09 05:28 PM   #16 
  - that makes two of us nt  Clio the Leo   Sep-02-09 05:46 PM   #28 
  - My thinking as well.  yowzayowzayowza   Sep-02-09 05:59 PM   #32 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-03-09 01:12 AM   #86 
  - So what will us working poor do for insurance BEFORE this fabled "trigger"  kestrel91316   Sep-02-09 05:30 PM   #17 
  - Check it out.......  FrenchieCat   Sep-02-09 05:31 PM   #21 
     - Excatly what I was thinking - reconcile it away.  tinrobot   Sep-02-09 06:05 PM   #35 
  - Being Canadian when i hear things like this i say F'OFF to the screen but then i realize....  quantass   Sep-02-09 05:30 PM   #18 
  - You're a DUer and can have an opinion  wryter2000   Sep-02-09 05:35 PM   #23 
  - no bloody way  northernlights   Sep-02-09 05:39 PM   #25 
  - Here a trigger, there a trigger, ever where a trigger trigger.  progressoid   Sep-02-09 05:42 PM   #26 
  - The last Trigger that worked was the one Roy Rogers rode on!  Joe Bacon   Sep-03-09 01:11 AM   #84 
  - This "trigger" stuff is BULLSHIT. We need REAL reform, and we need it NOW.  kath   Sep-02-09 05:49 PM   #30 
  - I don't know how Olympia Snowe gets up and looks in the mirror everyday  Phoebe Loosinhouse   Sep-02-09 06:00 PM   #33 
  - I'm not to sure about this  NYC Democrat   Sep-02-09 06:00 PM   #34 
  - I have a question.  pot luck   Sep-02-09 06:07 PM   #36 
  - If insurers could be trusted to be fair, we wouldn't be here. The trigger...  polichick   Sep-02-09 06:09 PM   #37 
  - + 100 n/t  slipslidingaway   Sep-02-09 06:34 PM   #43 
  - What's the source?  Becky72   Sep-02-09 06:09 PM   #38 
  - Remember any talks with Snowe probably relates only to that committees bill  SpartanDem   Sep-02-09 06:11 PM   #39 
  - The trigger  Nipper1959   Sep-02-09 06:17 PM   #40 
  - Snowe needs to come out in full support of a public option.  ProSense   Sep-02-09 06:23 PM   #41 
  - No. More. Excuses.  bvar22   Sep-02-09 06:27 PM   #42 
  - You are being very simple. We have a Senate where we cannot even have a single  TheKentuckian   Sep-03-09 03:49 PM   #114 
     - I'm afraid I AM that simple.  bvar22   Sep-03-09 05:41 PM   #116 
  - So if we're not getting a public option, ca we have Wyden-Bennet now?  DrToast   Sep-02-09 06:51 PM   #45 
  - K&R. I think this will get done WITH a public option in the end.  jenmito   Sep-02-09 06:54 PM   #46 
  - That's a far better idea then anything the 6 person 'bipartisan' Baucus group will come up with  ShadowLiberal   Sep-02-09 08:27 PM   #52 
  - You're right. A cup of cat poo is a lot tastier than bowl of dog shit. What's your pleasure?  Better Believe It   Sep-02-09 08:39 PM   #55 
     - Ain't dog shit what you keep peddling on these boards,  FrenchieCat   Sep-02-09 08:42 PM   #57 
        - Is that your way of saying you prefer cat poo .... Frenchie cat?  Better Believe It   Sep-02-09 08:58 PM   #59 
           - I rarely attack anyone......  FrenchieCat   Sep-02-09 09:30 PM   #66 
              - I never tell anyone what to post and I don't unrecommend posts.  Better Believe It   Sep-03-09 10:41 AM   #94 
  - A triggered public option would NEVER see the light of day... NEVER  Blasphemer   Sep-02-09 08:35 PM   #53 
  - Just remember the bogus trigger in Bush's drug prescription benefit legislation  Better Believe It   Sep-02-09 08:41 PM   #56 
  - Frak her ass, and frak the endless appeasement of GOP and Blue Bitches  IndianaGreen   Sep-02-09 09:06 PM   #61 
  - They've been elected and they have power  treestar   Sep-03-09 03:45 PM   #112 
     - What this country needs is an American version of the Bolivarian Revolution  IndianaGreen   Sep-03-09 03:55 PM   #115 
  - There are some other reforms that should be likely as well  jeanmarc   Sep-02-09 09:19 PM   #65 
  - So we get fucked over by a "trigger" that will never end up happening  Mystayya   Sep-02-09 09:57 PM   #69 
  - "What profit a man if he gain a Snowe but lose the left wing of his party?"  dflprincess   Sep-02-09 11:00 PM   #73 
  - yes  Lex   Sep-02-09 11:18 PM   #81 
  - He can't  treestar   Sep-03-09 03:47 PM   #113 
  - Personally, I'm not so sure that I like this "trigger" mechanism...  kjackson227   Sep-03-09 10:45 AM   #96 
  - What a lurid title for the article (no doubt the intention)  Proud Liberal Dem   Sep-03-09 10:59 AM   #98 
  - Until the comfortable, educated "progressives" with insurance  ipaint   Sep-03-09 07:11 PM   #120 
  - It's simply amazing how little Democrats are willing to settle for  MadHound   Sep-03-09 09:58 PM   #124 

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