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Reply #1: The OIG report found that the interrogators went beyond the SERE training [View All]

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-31-09 07:04 PM
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1. The OIG report found that the interrogators went beyond the SERE training
OIG’s review of the videotapes revealed that the waterboard technique employed at was different from the technique as described in the DoJ opinion and used in the SERE training. The difference was in the manner in which the detainee’s breathing was obstructed. At the SERE School and in the DoJ opinion, the subject’s airflow is disrupted by the firm application of a damp cloth over the air passages; the interrogator applies a small amount of water to the cloth in a controlled manner. By contest, the Agency interrogator continuously applied large volumes of water to a cloth that covered the detainee’s mouth and nose. One of the psychologists/interrogators acknowledged that the Agency’s use of the technique differed from that used in SERE training and explained that the Agency’s technique is different because it is “for real” and is more poignant and convincing.
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  The Resistance portion of SERE, useful training or an exercise in sado-masochism? hedgehog  Aug-31-09 07:01 PM   #0 
   The OIG report found that the interrogators went beyond the SERE training  merh   Aug-31-09 07:04 PM   #1 
   Recognizing the truth of what you say, do you think it's a good  hedgehog   Aug-31-09 07:41 PM   #3 
      I don't think debating that issue is useful to the torture debates.  merh   Aug-31-09 07:48 PM   #5 
   Resisting interrogation if captured is arguably an exercise in sado-masichism  Hippo_Tron   Aug-31-09 07:09 PM   #2 
   If it's good for keeping secrets, then why did the CIA use the same  hedgehog   Aug-31-09 07:42 PM   #4 
      Torture gets you a lot of information, a lot of it wrong some of it right  Hippo_Tron   Aug-31-09 07:49 PM   #6 
         My question is, do we have sadistic assholes in the armed  hedgehog   Aug-31-09 08:19 PM   #7 
         If it isn't necessary I think a better explanation is that they see it as a rite of passage  Hippo_Tron   Sep-01-09 02:27 AM   #8 
            I think you are correct, and I think that is a very frightening thought.  hedgehog   Sep-01-09 09:01 AM   #11 
         Where is the evidence that torture produces "right" information on occasion?  mix   Sep-01-09 08:42 AM   #10 
            If you torture somebody, they will tell you anything to make it stop  Hippo_Tron   Sep-01-09 12:57 PM   #13 
   I went through SERE training before going to Viet Nam,  Bravo Zulu   Sep-01-09 02:40 AM   #9 
      You probably know more about this than I do, but when the draft  hedgehog   Sep-01-09 09:04 AM   #12 
 

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