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Obama sits down at the the table with Corporate America, gives them our public schools
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In conjunction with Obama's plan to make everyone purchase private health insurance, are you beginning to see the pattern here? This is why Wall St/Corporate America was very happy to get Obama in the White House.

NEA Attacks Administration's Education Reform Plan

By Nick Anderson
The nation's largest teachers union sharply attacked President Obama's most significant school improvement initiative on Friday evening, saying that it puts too much emphasis on a "narrow agenda" centered on charter schools and echoes the Bush administration's "top-down approach" to reform.

The National Education Association's criticism of Obama's $4.35 billion "Race to the Top" initiative came nearly a month after the president unveiled the competitive grant program, meant to spur states to move toward teacher performance pay; lift caps on independently operated, publicly funded charter schools; and take other steps to shake up school systems.

The NEA's statement to the Department of Education came a week before the end of the public-comment period on the administration's proposal, and it reflected deep divisions over the White House's education agenda within a constituency largely loyal to the Democratic Party.

The union, which boasts 3.2 million members, charged that Race to the Top contradicted administration pledges to give states more flexibility in how they improve schools. "We find this top-down approach disturbing; we have been down that road before with the failures of No Child Left Behind," the union wrote in its comments, "and we cannot support yet another layer of federal mandates that have little or no research base of success and that usurp state and local government's responsibilities for public education."

It added: "Despite growing evidence to the contrary, it appears that the administration has decided that charter schools are the only answer to what ails America's public schools -- urban, suburban, exurban and rural -- and all must comply with that silver bullet."
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  -Obama sits down at the the table with Corporate America, gives them our public schools brentspeak  Aug-21-09 11:13 PM   #0 
  - You, and WaPo? There's a winning combo. How else can you  babylonsister   Aug-21-09 11:15 PM   #1 
  - Do you have children?  waiting for hope   Aug-21-09 11:16 PM   #3 
  - If she ever does comment on subject matter, you should mark the calendar and alert the media. n/t  QC   Aug-22-09 08:15 AM   #23 
  - Yes, grown kids, and grandkids, some who are being home-schooled.  babylonsister   Aug-22-09 09:34 AM   #30 
     - Why are you always attacking DU'ers and now the school teachers.  Better Believe It   Aug-23-09 09:13 AM   #75 
        - Because she has nothing of value to add  Clintonista2   Aug-26-09 03:54 PM   #134 
        - Its very sad the DU members can not have a civil discussion without  joeycola   Aug-30-09 05:47 PM   #139 
  - +1  stevenleser   Aug-22-09 08:55 AM   # 
  - the NEA?  paulk   Aug-24-09 08:46 AM   #100 
     - On the New & Improved DU, unions are very, very bad.  QC   Aug-24-09 08:49 AM   #101 
        - it's been kind of fascinating  paulk   Aug-24-09 10:13 AM   #110 
        - Well, "fascinating" is one way to describe it.  QC   Aug-24-09 10:51 AM   #112 
           - it's almost like this...  paulk   Aug-24-09 11:39 AM   #115 
              - More like this.  QC   Aug-24-09 12:31 PM   #117 
                 - Yup (nt)  Dinger   Aug-24-09 12:34 PM   #119 
        - Supporting labor does not mean assuming all unions are unselfish, benevolent organizations.  Odin2005   Aug-24-09 11:36 PM   #123 
  - Charter schools are PUBLIC schools, but attaching teacher evaluation to standardized test results is  RBInMaine   Aug-22-09 03:19 PM   #61 
     - Public School Money without The Accountability  Dinger   Aug-23-09 07:01 PM   #88 
        - Where is there no "accountability" ? Graduation rates? College-acceptance rates? SAT scores?  WinkyDink   Aug-23-09 07:19 PM   #89 
  - I will home school before I send my child to  waiting for hope   Aug-21-09 11:15 PM   #2 
  - I will send my child to a charter school before I home school.  boppers   Aug-21-09 11:36 PM   #11 
     - Public schools don't have "trained, professional" teachers?  brentspeak   Aug-21-09 11:49 PM   #15 
     - Public schools often have some "trained, professional" teachers, too.  boppers   Aug-22-09 12:11 AM   #18 
     - "how would you know how teachers teach inside...a charter or magnet " You're against magnet schools?  ProSense   Aug-22-09 09:47 AM   #32 
        - I never said I was against magnet schools  brentspeak   Aug-22-09 10:07 AM   #35 
        - I was actively involved in Education for many years  goclark   Aug-23-09 03:25 PM   #81 
           - Assuaging the fears of parents about urban settings is important  Hippo_Tron   Aug-30-09 03:37 PM   #138 
     - So, please tell me how a charter school  waiting for hope   Aug-22-09 12:23 AM   #19 
     - "Changing over to a system that is not designed to work everywhere"...  boppers   Aug-22-09 01:07 AM   #20 
        - "Students and superiors can fire bad apples"  brentspeak   Aug-22-09 09:31 AM   #29 
        - Dont be a tool  Egnever   Aug-22-09 09:46 AM   #31 
        - There were a couple of teachers from my high school easily fired for some things  brentspeak   Aug-22-09 10:02 AM   #34 
           - My wife isn't in the union  Egnever   Aug-22-09 10:26 AM   #37 
        - You weren't taught logical fallacies?  boppers   Aug-22-09 02:12 PM   #52 
        - And here come the "teachers can do no wrong" sycophants.  Odin2005   Aug-24-09 11:44 PM   #125 
        - Then it's different all over -  waiting for hope   Aug-23-09 01:21 AM   #69 
           - Great question at the end of your post.  boppers   Aug-23-09 04:02 AM   #71 
     - +1  Odin2005   Aug-24-09 11:39 PM   #124 
  - Kick - rec'd earlier....  waiting for hope   Aug-21-09 11:17 PM   #4 
  - This is wrong  texastoast   Aug-21-09 11:18 PM   #5 
  - Well, I tried to recommend, but it stays below zero.  madfloridian   Aug-21-09 11:24 PM   #6 
  - I'm going to continue to kick - with me?  waiting for hope   Aug-21-09 11:29 PM   #7 
  - That's because, in addition to a lot of naive cheerleaders, the DLC/K-Street crowd work this site  brentspeak   Aug-21-09 11:31 PM   #9 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-21-09 11:47 PM   #14 
  - That's a good article about who benefits from charter schools here.  madfloridian   Aug-21-09 11:53 PM   #16 
  - Chicago has had some success, and do need accountability for charters. Duncan wants more power to  MarjorieG   Aug-21-09 11:56 PM   #17 
  - How much are the professional posters being paid?  Telly Savalas   Aug-22-09 02:36 PM   #55 
  - Got any proof of your accusations?  Odin2005   Aug-24-09 11:48 PM   #127 
  - paranoia... thinking people are paid to post here, you have it  dionysus   Aug-23-09 11:27 AM   #79 
  - brentspeaks For Me  Dinger   Aug-23-09 07:49 PM   #90 
  - Many people around here hold teachers in contempt,  QC   Aug-22-09 08:20 AM   #24 
     - DUzy,  Dinger   Aug-23-09 07:49 PM   #91 
        - I've gotten them before, but that post certainly won't get one.  QC   Aug-24-09 08:51 AM   #102 
  - K and R. The administration's approach on education  last_texas_dem   Aug-21-09 11:30 PM   #8 
  - Kicking for content  waiting for hope   Aug-21-09 11:32 PM   #10 
  - "Attacks"? From the NEA statement  ProSense   Aug-21-09 11:38 PM   #12 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Aug-21-09 11:44 PM   #13 
  - it is an attack  paulk   Aug-22-09 10:34 AM   #38 
  - "It states that the Administration's goals are admirable but it's solutions are not."  ProSense   Aug-22-09 10:47 AM   #39 
     - oh, ok  paulk   Aug-22-09 11:43 AM   #44 
  - Clearly the NEA is in bed with the the Man.  Telly Savalas   Aug-22-09 02:37 PM   #56 
  - The stimulus saved billions for schools that would have been slashed in state budget cuts  bluestateguy   Aug-22-09 01:52 AM   #21 
  - Stimulus dollars for education are tied  LWolf   Aug-22-09 02:06 PM   #49 
     - +1  QC   Aug-22-09 02:53 PM   #58 
     - +2  paulk   Aug-24-09 08:53 AM   #103 
  - Teachers don't like performance-related plans. So....what is THEIR plan to  Honeycombe8   Aug-22-09 07:38 AM   #22 
  - "Performance-related programs are the only way to go"  brentspeak   Aug-22-09 09:23 AM   #28 
  - To improve education, or at least the part dealing with the instructors,  Honeycombe8   Aug-22-09 10:49 AM   #40 
  - Teachers do get evaluated.  QC   Aug-22-09 11:10 AM   #43 
     - Good. Then teachers are okay with an education improvement plan based on evaluations?  Honeycombe8   Aug-23-09 08:40 AM   #72 
        - Teachers are already evaluated. What most teachers do not want  QC   Aug-23-09 08:45 AM   #73 
           - The plan isn't stated to be that. The article says the NEA doesn't want performance  Honeycombe8   Aug-23-09 09:07 AM   #74 
              - "Performance based plan," in practice, generally means test scores.  QC   Aug-23-09 09:29 AM   #77 
  - Was clear that performance wouldn't always be tests, but include other opinions/factors.  MarjorieG   Aug-22-09 02:55 PM   #59 
  - Teachers are constantly evaluated by everyone in the system.  madfloridian   Aug-22-09 11:58 AM   #45 
  - You are entirely ignorant. There are all kinds of "plans" all over the place. Here's some education  RBInMaine   Aug-22-09 03:40 PM   #62 
  - How about mandating LAZY, DYSFUNCTIONAL, INEFFECTIVE PARENTS to make their  RBInMaine   Aug-22-09 03:45 PM   #63 
  - +1  waiting for hope   Aug-23-09 01:29 AM   #70 
  - +2  Dinger   Aug-24-09 09:58 AM   #108 
  - Gee, maybe those parents work 2.5 jobs and don't have the fucking time?  Odin2005   Aug-24-09 11:54 PM   #129 
  - WOW!!! What will you think of next?????  amandabeech   Aug-30-09 06:00 PM   #141 
  - Nice of you to ask.  LWolf   Aug-23-09 04:55 PM   #82 
  - And don't forget this one. The teacher comments at offer...  YvonneCa   Aug-23-09 08:11 PM   #92 
  - Thanks for reminding me.  LWolf   Aug-23-09 10:09 PM   #95 
     - I know you do...  YvonneCa   Aug-23-09 10:22 PM   #96 
        - I Have One Too  Dinger   Aug-24-09 11:46 AM   #116 
           - I read yours. It was very...  YvonneCa   Aug-24-09 06:37 PM   #121 
  - Excellent, As Always  Dinger   Aug-24-09 09:59 AM   #109 
  - Many of these same posters were rightfully attacking cops sticking up for bad cops...  Odin2005   Aug-24-09 11:52 PM   #128 
  - question  d_r   Aug-22-09 08:43 AM   #25 
  - Not around here. Charter school = Publicly funded private school.  QC   Aug-22-09 08:53 AM   #26 
  - Charter schools here in Colorado can and do turn away SPED kids.  donco6   Aug-22-09 10:02 AM   #33 
  - Here is the NEA on charter schools  ProSense   Aug-22-09 10:59 AM   #41 
  - That's odd.  Telly Savalas   Aug-22-09 02:42 PM   #57 
  - Not in either of the two states I've taught in.  LWolf   Aug-22-09 02:09 PM   #50 
     - Not hard to be a great success when you can cherry pick  QC   Aug-22-09 02:12 PM   #51 
        - Exactly. nt  LWolf   Aug-22-09 02:36 PM   #54 
        - I was worried about that.  d_r   Aug-22-09 05:03 PM   #64 
           - That's the purpose of the scheme--leaving the "bad kids" in the public schools  QC   Aug-22-09 05:09 PM   #65 
  - ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ##  DU GrovelBot   Aug-22-09 08:55 AM   #27 
  - christ almighty. i'll give you points for sheer perserverance, and lack of shame.  dionysus   Aug-22-09 10:19 AM   #36 
  - do you support the NEA in this?  paulk   Aug-24-09 08:56 AM   #104 
     - That would mean he would have to do all that thinking thing. Ewwwh. nt  Jakes Progress   Aug-24-09 09:30 AM   #106 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-22-09 11:03 AM   #42 
  - Gomer Norquist's proudest accomplishment  Jakes Progress   Aug-22-09 12:17 PM   #46 
  - It's amazing how much right wing propaganda has become conventional wisdom on DU.  QC   Aug-22-09 12:20 PM   #47 
  - And just like the dumber republicans  Jakes Progress   Aug-24-09 08:41 AM   #98 
     - You are exactly right. n/t  QC   Aug-24-09 02:44 PM   #120 
  - All teachers are perfect, all public schools are flawless, and nothing should change.  boppers   Aug-22-09 03:00 PM   #60 
     - No, that's not any better.  LWolf   Aug-22-09 07:48 PM   #66 
     - Nor is it better to set up a 'straw man' simplistic argument...  YvonneCa   Aug-22-09 08:32 PM   #68 
     - OOOH. That was Norquist having another orgasm.  Jakes Progress   Aug-24-09 08:39 AM   #97 
  - And if you didn't see it coming, you weren't paying attention.  LWolf   Aug-22-09 01:58 PM   #48 
  - But he has his friend Arne Duncan  joeycola   Aug-30-09 05:51 PM   #140 
  - The NEA endorsed Obama knowing he supports charter schools, then whines when  Freddie Stubbs   Aug-22-09 02:14 PM   #53 
  - There was no one left to endorse,  LWolf   Aug-22-09 07:54 PM   #67 
  - Not every union endorses a candidate in every race  Freddie Stubbs   Aug-23-09 06:12 PM   #83 
     - The NEA represents educators. We care about MANY issues...  YvonneCa   Aug-23-09 08:17 PM   #93 
     - That's not a very good analogy.  LWolf   Aug-23-09 09:58 PM   #94 
  - Why are you attacking the teachers and their labor union?  Better Believe It   Aug-23-09 09:14 AM   #76 
     - That's the hip thing to do around here lately. Shows how "pragmatic" one is.  QC   Aug-23-09 09:30 AM   #78 
     - Hope and change will see us through.  Jim Sagle   Aug-24-09 09:52 AM   #107 
     - You are right, and here's an example. The author of this SD Union article always sides...  YvonneCa   Aug-23-09 02:47 PM   #80 
     - Does it really help teachers for their union to follow an ineffective political strategy?  Freddie Stubbs   Aug-23-09 06:21 PM   #84 
        - You think they should have supported someone other than Obama in the election?  Better Believe It   Aug-23-09 06:30 PM   #85 
           - They certainly could have backed someone else in the primary  Freddie Stubbs   Aug-24-09 12:33 PM   #118 
  - Charter Schools: the End of America as We Know It.  omega minimo   Aug-23-09 06:52 PM   #86 
  - Second Thread On This:  Dinger   Aug-23-09 07:00 PM   #87 
  - Good. Now we need about a dozen more.  Jakes Progress   Aug-24-09 08:43 AM   #99 
     - I Agree  Dinger   Aug-24-09 10:21 AM   #111 
        - Sorry if I misunderstood.  Jakes Progress   Aug-24-09 11:14 AM   #113 
           - Here Ya Go JP:  Dinger   Aug-24-09 11:39 AM   #114 
  - The thing is that it's hard to believe it could get any worse in certain areas  Hippo_Tron   Aug-24-09 09:02 AM   #105 
  - *FACEPLAM*  Odin2005   Aug-24-09 11:26 PM   #122 
  - Charter Schools are publicly funded PRIVATE schools - and are BAD BAD BAD!!!  TankLV   Aug-24-09 11:47 PM   #126 
     - Charter schools are public schools.  Odin2005   Aug-24-09 11:57 PM   #130 
     - That's not an accurate statement.  noamnety   Aug-25-09 12:25 AM   #131 
     - Thank you.  tunacan   Aug-30-09 02:00 PM   #135 
     - Many Charter Schools are Publicly Funded and Do Not Select only the best students.  NYC_SKP   Aug-25-09 01:31 AM   #132 
        - Not only are charter schools all private and exclude black/special ed/poor students ...  noamnety   Aug-26-09 01:14 PM   #133 
        - Because certain special interests benefit from pushing the myth  Odin2005   Aug-30-09 02:16 PM   #136 
        - All charters are publicly funded.  LWolf   Aug-30-09 03:29 PM   #137 
        - I know why this myth lives.  Telly Savalas   Aug-30-09 10:02 PM   #142 

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