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galloglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 08:07 PM
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21. "he has, it seems, won" Errrrr, no, no!
"He has established that the final bill must have real competition for the private sector. If it doesn't have it he will lose."


We are hearing "co-ops" being trumpeted, and they are not winners, nor competition.

Two varieties exist:

1) The type like dairies, etc., marketing together because they cannot exist alone and are owned by the members. Problem is, the members would be in business themselves if they could compete individually and only compete together because it is that or nothing.

Face it. Be it Mom and Pop groceries or a bunch or Sally, Jim and Joe Bob's Medical Service Contractors they cannot stand up to the likes of the national chains of corporate grocers (WalMart, perhaps) or Aetna, Blue Cross, etc.

but we'll probably get #2

2) The "mutual insurance concept" where the insureds own the companies.

Anyone who thinks that they, their parents, Gparents, or GGparents ever "owned a piece of the Rock" (Prudential) or any of the NY State giant mutual life companies (NY Life, et al.) should drop by and explain how that ever fostered any type of competition. It doesn't.

If we get a PO that is a #2, God help us. We'll be screwed for 150 more years and never figure it out. That is, until they privatize our "mutual health companies" and sell them to Hedge Funds.


If it is not a PO, and transparent enough for elementary school kids to understand, Obama could "win" and the whole country would lose big time. And, as with the beloved CDL's (invented by the mutual insurance giants), we would still be scratching our heads and asking "How did that happen??" But by that time, Obama will be long in a grave with his grandchildren.

It must be Public Option AND simple!!


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