bkkyosemite
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Fri Aug-14-09 10:25 PM
Response to Reply #29 |
| 38. So did you watch the town hall in Montana? |
| -President Obama was 100% wrong today when he commented on Canada's health care system. |
Better Believe It |
Aug-14-09 09:04 PM |
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I'm surprised to read this. That's not how it works at all in Canada. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Aug-14-09 09:06 PM |
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Canada's system works much like our Medicare and is actually referred to as 'Medicare.' |
flpoljunkie |
Aug-15-09 07:35 AM |
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I lived in 'Tee Oh' for four years and go back often. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Aug-15-09 08:06 AM |
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Change that's just utter rubbish! |
FiveGoodMen |
Aug-14-09 09:09 PM |
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He's just a politician, but he is better than GW Bush.... n/t |
LakeSamish706 |
Aug-14-09 09:10 PM |
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Um, wrongo, Mr. President. Time to write yet another letter. Grr. nt |
leftyclimber |
Aug-14-09 09:13 PM |
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President Obama needs to correct his mistake quickly. |
Better Believe It |
Aug-14-09 09:14 PM |
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Curious: What is the rush to correct it? |
quantass |
Aug-14-09 09:22 PM |
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Your post |
ProSense |
Aug-14-09 09:27 PM |
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Baby steps? Well, at the baby step rate we'll have single payer in 2053. |
Better Believe It |
Aug-14-09 09:35 PM |
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The media is far right. |
Enthusiast |
Aug-15-09 05:48 AM |
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Aug-15-09 07:09 AM |
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Well said, quantass! |
Spazito |
Aug-16-09 12:00 PM |
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I'm Canadian and i was PUZZLED too...My friends are Doctors and they are NOT hired by the government |
quantass |
Aug-14-09 09:16 PM |
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I followed your suggestion and just sent the White House an e-mail on this mistake |
Better Believe It |
Aug-14-09 09:31 PM |
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Who cares if Obama doesn't understand what Canada/UK do as long as he has a specific plan to fix our |
jody |
Aug-14-09 09:20 PM |
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EXACTLY! (It is meaningless and i'm Canadian) |
quantass |
Aug-14-09 09:23 PM |
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That plan he has is not Single Payer and it ain't gonna fix nothing except for more profits for ins. |
bkkyosemite |
Aug-14-09 09:24 PM |
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Strong Public Option is a good alternative... |
quantass |
Aug-14-09 09:28 PM |
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But it is not going to happen. The existing plans that are considered go from |
Mass |
Aug-14-09 09:34 PM |
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No, both plans do include a strong public option. |
ProSense |
Aug-14-09 09:40 PM |
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No, they do not. A strong public option is one open to all. This is not the case. |
Mass |
Aug-14-09 09:44 PM |
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A strong public option is the structure of the bill |
ProSense |
Aug-14-09 09:49 PM |
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LOL. So, let's make a strong public option that covers nobody. May be it is the solution. |
Mass |
Aug-14-09 09:53 PM |
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Is the plan something people choose? n/t |
ProSense |
Aug-14-09 09:55 PM |
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It should be. As written, it is not the case. Most people, including those who have already an |
Mass |
Aug-14-09 09:56 PM |
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No |
ProSense |
Aug-14-09 10:00 PM |
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The exchange is in the plan? Because last time I heard, it was not in the Senate HELP bill. |
Mass |
Aug-14-09 10:01 PM |
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They are in the plans |
ProSense |
Aug-14-09 10:10 PM |
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Read the first paragraph of your post. Clearly, it is not the case. |
Mass |
Aug-14-09 10:15 PM |
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That is not what it says. The exchanges are there, the speculation about impact is a separate issue. |
ProSense |
Aug-14-09 10:20 PM |
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I love the idea the impact does not matter. Amazing... |
Mass |
Aug-15-09 08:46 AM |
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Here are the facts |
ProSense |
Aug-15-09 10:24 AM |
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Thank you for being so tactful. I am afraid that it will be a watered down pro insurance version |
bkkyosemite |
Aug-14-09 09:41 PM |
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If President Obama doesn't know much about Canada's health care system .... |
Better Believe It |
Aug-14-09 09:38 PM |
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That's a damned good question. |
ThomCat |
Aug-15-09 03:28 AM |
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That is the entire point of this thread. He is amazingly uninformed |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-15-09 07:49 AM |
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He was right on England, wrong on Canada. n/t |
ProSense |
Aug-14-09 09:22 PM |
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Exactly correct. nt. |
andym |
Aug-14-09 09:29 PM |
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Also wrong about the Netherlands, but who is counting? |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-15-09 08:00 AM |
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He's been listening too much to Baucus who has been bribed by the insurance companies at a tune of |
bkkyosemite |
Aug-14-09 09:23 PM |
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President Obama only mentioned Baucus 8 times because of his hard work .... |
Better Believe It |
Aug-14-09 09:43 PM |
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Unfortunately, Obama has been often light in the examples he gave. |
Mass |
Aug-14-09 09:27 PM |
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He was correct in that both are called socialized systems, but the after remarks only applied to 1. |
phleshdef |
Aug-14-09 09:41 PM |
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What he said today was a big deal. He sides with Baucus no Single Payer and he thinks the insurance |
bkkyosemite |
Aug-14-09 09:43 PM |
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Thats about as batshit crazy as the "demonizing insurance companies" guy from the townhall. |
phleshdef |
Aug-14-09 09:51 PM |
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So did you watch the town hall in Montana? |
bkkyosemite |
Aug-14-09 10:25 PM |
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call me bat shit crazy. Here is what Obama said today from transcript provided in below link. Thanks |
bkkyosemite |
Aug-14-09 11:23 PM |
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He needs to make his answers brief and only cover areas he is sure about |
marshall |
Aug-15-09 09:59 AM |
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Great point. |
dhpgetsit |
Aug-14-09 09:48 PM |
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You can read a transcript of President Obama's remarks at: |
Better Believe It |
Aug-14-09 10:50 PM |
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Not that it matters, but... |
subterranean |
Aug-14-09 10:58 PM |
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Sounds fishy, send it in to- flag@whitehouse.gov nt |
masuki bance |
Aug-15-09 12:06 AM |
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He needs to hire competent advisors |
glitch |
Aug-15-09 12:50 AM |
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K&R |
Vidar |
Aug-15-09 01:34 AM |
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Are you out of your mind? Our medicare system differ from each Province, |
akbacchus_BC |
Aug-15-09 06:30 AM |
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Make an independent thread on it to enlighten some of us... |
vaberella |
Aug-16-09 02:12 AM |
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He was 100% wrong about Canadian doctors |
PolNewf |
Aug-15-09 07:43 AM |
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I'm not saying he did it on purpose, but this puts the RW blowhards in a bit of a quandry... |
Richardo |
Aug-15-09 08:15 AM |
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Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer Lauds Canadian single payer system at Obama Town Hall Meeting! |
Better Believe It |
Aug-15-09 08:53 AM |
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Obama is stubbornly trying to protect the profits of the health industry |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-15-09 09:18 AM |
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I think he was really referring to England |
Perky |
Aug-15-09 09:59 AM |
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But he also got it all wrong on the healthcare system in the Netherlands! |
Better Believe It |
Aug-15-09 12:08 PM |
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WOW - I don't think he can be that freakin' ignorant about Canada, therefore he must be knowingly |
kath |
Aug-15-09 11:52 AM |
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I agree with you n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Aug-15-09 01:07 PM |
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Corporatism redux: business, good; government bad |
PurityOfEssence |
Aug-15-09 12:06 PM |
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Sad knr nt |
slipslidingaway |
Aug-15-09 01:06 PM |
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I couldnt care less. Single Payer can suck it. |
mkultra |
Aug-15-09 02:11 PM |
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July Poll, support for a National Insurance Plan grows - Medicare for All |
slipslidingaway |
Aug-15-09 11:22 PM |
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thank you for the links. very enlightening thread. nt |
inna |
Aug-16-09 01:00 PM |
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You're welcome, hopefully the August poll will continue to ask |
slipslidingaway |
Aug-17-09 09:15 AM |
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funny thing is i read the document and it seemed to disagree with you |
mkultra |
Aug-16-09 07:51 PM |
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What it shows is that SP still has wide support even though people |
slipslidingaway |
Aug-17-09 09:21 AM |
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thanks, can you help me find where it says that in the report. |
mkultra |
Aug-17-09 09:59 AM |
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President Obama clearly isn't familiar with how a single payer system actually works. |
Better Believe It |
Aug-17-09 04:39 PM |
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Thank You, Thank You!! |
Butch350 |
Aug-16-09 12:16 AM |
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+infinity. n/t |
vaberella |
Aug-16-09 02:14 AM |
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-1. |
inna |
Aug-16-09 12:57 PM |
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"government owns the hospitals, directly hires doctors -..." Umm...WRONG. |
LynnTheDem |
Aug-15-09 11:51 PM |
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It's true that most hospitals in Canada are government-owned, though. |
Unvanguard |
Aug-16-09 12:17 AM |
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Someone else on this thread said the samething, they are apparently canadian.n/t |
vaberella |
Aug-16-09 02:16 AM |
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Canadian hospitals are not part of or run by the federal government. Period. |
Better Believe It |
Aug-16-09 09:33 AM |
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Who said anything about "federal"? I don't think Obama did. n/t |
Unvanguard |
Aug-16-09 03:28 PM |
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You're nitpicking |
Better Believe It |
Aug-16-09 05:04 PM |
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