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10. He's been listening too much to Baucus who has been bribed by the insurance companies at a tune of
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  -President Obama was 100% wrong today when he commented on Canada's health care system. Better Believe It  Aug-14-09 09:04 PM   #0 
  - I'm surprised to read this. That's not how it works at all in Canada. nt  Captain Hilts   Aug-14-09 09:06 PM   #1 
  - Canada's system works much like our Medicare and is actually referred to as 'Medicare.'  flpoljunkie   Aug-15-09 07:35 AM   #49 
     - I lived in 'Tee Oh' for four years and go back often. nt  Captain Hilts   Aug-15-09 08:06 AM   #53 
  - Change that's just utter rubbish!  FiveGoodMen   Aug-14-09 09:09 PM   #2 
  - He's just a politician, but he is better than GW Bush.... n/t  LakeSamish706   Aug-14-09 09:10 PM   #3 
  - Um, wrongo, Mr. President. Time to write yet another letter. Grr. nt  leftyclimber   Aug-14-09 09:13 PM   #4 
  - President Obama needs to correct his mistake quickly.  Better Believe It   Aug-14-09 09:14 PM   #5 
  - Curious: What is the rush to correct it?  quantass   Aug-14-09 09:22 PM   #8 
     - Your post  ProSense   Aug-14-09 09:27 PM   #14 
     - Baby steps? Well, at the baby step rate we'll have single payer in 2053.  Better Believe It   Aug-14-09 09:35 PM   #19 
     - The media is far right.  Enthusiast   Aug-15-09 05:48 AM   #46 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-15-09 07:09 AM   #48 
     - Well said, quantass!  Spazito   Aug-16-09 12:00 PM   #75 
  - I'm Canadian and i was PUZZLED too...My friends are Doctors and they are NOT hired by the government  quantass   Aug-14-09 09:16 PM   #6 
  - I followed your suggestion and just sent the White House an e-mail on this mistake  Better Believe It   Aug-14-09 09:31 PM   #17 
  - Who cares if Obama doesn't understand what Canada/UK do as long as he has a specific plan to fix our  jody   Aug-14-09 09:20 PM   #7 
  - EXACTLY! (It is meaningless and i'm Canadian)  quantass   Aug-14-09 09:23 PM   #11 
  - That plan he has is not Single Payer and it ain't gonna fix nothing except for more profits for ins.  bkkyosemite   Aug-14-09 09:24 PM   #12 
  - Strong Public Option is a good alternative...  quantass   Aug-14-09 09:28 PM   #15 
     - But it is not going to happen. The existing plans that are considered go from  Mass   Aug-14-09 09:34 PM   #18 
     - No, both plans do include a strong public option.  ProSense   Aug-14-09 09:40 PM   #21 
        - No, they do not. A strong public option is one open to all. This is not the case.  Mass   Aug-14-09 09:44 PM   #26 
           - A strong public option is the structure of the bill  ProSense   Aug-14-09 09:49 PM   #28 
              - LOL. So, let's make a strong public option that covers nobody. May be it is the solution.  Mass   Aug-14-09 09:53 PM   #30 
                 - Is the plan something people choose? n/t  ProSense   Aug-14-09 09:55 PM   #31 
                    - It should be. As written, it is not the case. Most people, including those who have already an  Mass   Aug-14-09 09:56 PM   #32 
                       - No  ProSense   Aug-14-09 10:00 PM   #33 
                          - The exchange is in the plan? Because last time I heard, it was not in the Senate HELP bill.  Mass   Aug-14-09 10:01 PM   #34 
                             - They are in the plans  ProSense   Aug-14-09 10:10 PM   #35 
                                - Read the first paragraph of your post. Clearly, it is not the case.  Mass   Aug-14-09 10:15 PM   #36 
                                   - That is not what it says. The exchanges are there, the speculation about impact is a separate issue.  ProSense   Aug-14-09 10:20 PM   #37 
                                      - I love the idea the impact does not matter. Amazing...  Mass   Aug-15-09 08:46 AM   #55 
                                         - Here are the facts  ProSense   Aug-15-09 10:24 AM   #60 
     - Thank you for being so tactful. I am afraid that it will be a watered down pro insurance version  bkkyosemite   Aug-14-09 09:41 PM   #23 
  - If President Obama doesn't know much about Canada's health care system ....  Better Believe It   Aug-14-09 09:38 PM   #20 
     - That's a damned good question.  ThomCat   Aug-15-09 03:28 AM   #45 
     - That is the entire point of this thread. He is amazingly uninformed  Bluenorthwest   Aug-15-09 07:49 AM   #51 
  - He was right on England, wrong on Canada. n/t  ProSense   Aug-14-09 09:22 PM   #9 
  - Exactly correct. nt.  andym   Aug-14-09 09:29 PM   #16 
  - Also wrong about the Netherlands, but who is counting?  Bluenorthwest   Aug-15-09 08:00 AM   #52 
  - He's been listening too much to Baucus who has been bribed by the insurance companies at a tune of  bkkyosemite   Aug-14-09 09:23 PM   #10 
  - President Obama only mentioned Baucus 8 times because of his hard work ....  Better Believe It   Aug-14-09 09:43 PM   #24 
  - Unfortunately, Obama has been often light in the examples he gave.  Mass   Aug-14-09 09:27 PM   #13 
  - He was correct in that both are called socialized systems, but the after remarks only applied to 1.  phleshdef   Aug-14-09 09:41 PM   #22 
  - What he said today was a big deal. He sides with Baucus no Single Payer and he thinks the insurance  bkkyosemite   Aug-14-09 09:43 PM   #25 
  - Thats about as batshit crazy as the "demonizing insurance companies" guy from the townhall.  phleshdef   Aug-14-09 09:51 PM   #29 
     - So did you watch the town hall in Montana?  bkkyosemite   Aug-14-09 10:25 PM   #38 
     - call me bat shit crazy. Here is what Obama said today from transcript provided in below link. Thanks  bkkyosemite   Aug-14-09 11:23 PM   #41 
  - He needs to make his answers brief and only cover areas he is sure about  marshall   Aug-15-09 09:59 AM   #58 
  - Great point.  dhpgetsit   Aug-14-09 09:48 PM   #27 
  - You can read a transcript of President Obama's remarks at:  Better Believe It   Aug-14-09 10:50 PM   #39 
  - Not that it matters, but...  subterranean   Aug-14-09 10:58 PM   #40 
  - Sounds fishy, send it in to- nt  masuki bance   Aug-15-09 12:06 AM   #42 
  - He needs to hire competent advisors  glitch   Aug-15-09 12:50 AM   #43 
  - K&R  Vidar   Aug-15-09 01:34 AM   #44 
  - Are you out of your mind? Our medicare system differ from each Province,  akbacchus_BC   Aug-15-09 06:30 AM   #47 
  - Make an independent thread on it to enlighten some of us...  vaberella   Aug-16-09 02:12 AM   #71 
  - He was 100% wrong about Canadian doctors  PolNewf   Aug-15-09 07:43 AM   #50 
  - I'm not saying he did it on purpose, but this puts the RW blowhards in a bit of a quandry...  Richardo   Aug-15-09 08:15 AM   #54 
  - Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer Lauds Canadian single payer system at Obama Town Hall Meeting!  Better Believe It   Aug-15-09 08:53 AM   #56 
  - Obama is stubbornly trying to protect the profits of the health industry  IndianaGreen   Aug-15-09 09:18 AM   #57 
  - I think he was really referring to England  Perky   Aug-15-09 09:59 AM   #59 
  - But he also got it all wrong on the healthcare system in the Netherlands!  Better Believe It   Aug-15-09 12:08 PM   #63 
  - WOW - I don't think he can be that freakin' ignorant about Canada, therefore he must be knowingly  kath   Aug-15-09 11:52 AM   #61 
  - I agree with you n/t  slipslidingaway   Aug-15-09 01:07 PM   #65 
  - Corporatism redux: business, good; government bad  PurityOfEssence   Aug-15-09 12:06 PM   #62 
  - Sad knr nt  slipslidingaway   Aug-15-09 01:06 PM   #64 
  - I couldnt care less. Single Payer can suck it.  mkultra   Aug-15-09 02:11 PM   #66 
  - July Poll, support for a National Insurance Plan grows - Medicare for All  slipslidingaway   Aug-15-09 11:22 PM   #67 
  - thank you for the links. very enlightening thread. nt  inna   Aug-16-09 01:00 PM   #77 
  - You're welcome, hopefully the August poll will continue to ask  slipslidingaway   Aug-17-09 09:15 AM   #81 
  - funny thing is i read the document and it seemed to disagree with you  mkultra   Aug-16-09 07:51 PM   #80 
     - What it shows is that SP still has wide support even though people  slipslidingaway   Aug-17-09 09:21 AM   #82 
        - thanks, can you help me find where it says that in the report.  mkultra   Aug-17-09 09:59 AM   #83 
        - President Obama clearly isn't familiar with how a single payer system actually works.  Better Believe It   Aug-17-09 04:39 PM   #84 
  - Thank You, Thank You!!  Butch350   Aug-16-09 12:16 AM   #69 
  - +infinity. n/t  vaberella   Aug-16-09 02:14 AM   #72 
  - -1.  inna   Aug-16-09 12:57 PM   #76 
  - "government owns the hospitals, directly hires doctors -..." Umm...WRONG.  LynnTheDem   Aug-15-09 11:51 PM   #68 
  - It's true that most hospitals in Canada are government-owned, though.  Unvanguard   Aug-16-09 12:17 AM   #70 
     - Someone else on this thread said the samething, they are apparently canadian.n/t  vaberella   Aug-16-09 02:16 AM   #73 
     - Canadian hospitals are not part of or run by the federal government. Period.  Better Believe It   Aug-16-09 09:33 AM   #74 
        - Who said anything about "federal"? I don't think Obama did. n/t  Unvanguard   Aug-16-09 03:28 PM   #78 
           - You're nitpicking  Better Believe It   Aug-16-09 05:04 PM   #79 

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