Smarmie Doofus
(1000+ posts)
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Wed Aug-12-09 05:54 PM
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| 27. K and R. It's essentially about busting the unions. |
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There's other stuff involved but that's what it's essentially about. Bloomberg thinks he can run the PS system on the cheap by getting rid of expensive educators ( i.e. experienced) and replacing them with newbies.
The newbies won't stay long enough to make pension demands, etc. on the system. ( Half of all new teachers leave within 5 yrs. in NY). Constant turnover is OK w. Bloomberg so long as he's calling the shots and costs are kept *low*. Neither he nor anyone in his social sphere use or ever WILL use the public school system so it's actual quality is completely beside the point.
There's a line from "The Verdict": "Wake up Frankie; these people are *sharks*; how the fuck ya think they got all that money in the first place."
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Arne Duncan messing around in NYC schools. Demands mayoral control, no parent input... |
madfloridian |
Aug-11-09 11:29 PM |
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He's messing around at schools? Damn the nerve. nt |
babylonsister |
Aug-11-09 11:30 PM |
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Well, since I am never sure of the tone of your responses... |
madfloridian |
Aug-11-09 11:33 PM |
#2 |
  
Another step into turning all public schools |
waiting for hope |
Aug-12-09 11:33 PM |
#43 |
 
Actually, this has been a bone of contention as the current mayor is not remotely |
Raineyb |
Aug-12-09 12:43 AM |
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Not allowing for any input but the mayor....not a good idea. |
madfloridian |
Aug-12-09 01:50 AM |
#6 |
   
Never mind...down to 0 now and heading for negative territory. |
madfloridian |
Aug-12-09 01:57 AM |
#7 |
   
No I wouldn't think so. |
Raineyb |
Aug-12-09 09:35 AM |
#11 |
   
The NYC mayor has had "control" on the schools for seven years already... |
George II |
Aug-13-09 07:14 AM |
#49 |
  
Huh?? "not really interested in hearing what any of us who are not rich...have to say"? |
George II |
Aug-13-09 07:20 AM |
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I thought Caroline Kennedy had all that under control |
Retrograde |
Aug-12-09 12:08 PM |
#21 |
 
Considering that there has been mayoral control of schools for seven years and... |
George II |
Aug-13-09 10:21 PM |
#65 |

Here's the link to Post bragging about itself. |
madfloridian |
Aug-12-09 12:21 AM |
#3 |
 
And here's a key quote from that article..in case you missed it: |
George II |
Aug-13-09 07:31 AM |
#51 |

Down from 3 recs to 1 in just a short time. |
madfloridian |
Aug-12-09 12:23 AM |
#4 |
 
I recced. |
juno jones |
Aug-12-09 02:40 AM |
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The unrecs are puzzling in some cases. |
madfloridian |
Aug-12-09 02:45 AM |
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I Just Gave This The 7th Rec |
Dinger |
Aug-12-09 10:49 AM |
#14 |
 
Perhaps disapproval of the nature of the post itself? |
George II |
Aug-13-09 08:33 AM |
#52 |

What's That Matter With The "Nature" Of The Post? |
Dinger |
Aug-13-09 08:40 AM |
#55 |

The "nature" of the post is this.... |
George II |
Aug-13-09 06:12 PM |
#59 |

He means he follows me from thread to thread to try to make me look bad. |
madfloridian |
Aug-13-09 08:32 PM |
#61 |

That Sucks |
Dinger |
Aug-14-09 10:07 AM |
#79 |

CA may lose 4 billion if they don't do things Duncan's way. |
madfloridian |
Aug-12-09 02:39 AM |
#8 |
 
What's wrong is thinking of Duncan as a Democrat. |
Jim Sagle |
Aug-13-09 01:23 AM |
#47 |

K&R |
Wednesdays |
Aug-12-09 10:37 AM |
#12 |

I always thought he was a bad pick. |
Dappleganger |
Aug-12-09 10:47 AM |
#13 |

it WORKED in chicago |
mopinko |
Aug-12-09 10:50 AM |
#15 |
 
"Parental Input Not All It Is Cracked Up to Be"? |
Dinger |
Aug-12-09 11:00 AM |
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In the education of their kids, yes. |
Hello_Kitty |
Aug-12-09 01:34 PM |
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And that is assuming that the lower income parents are aware of the high tech advances.... |
George II |
Aug-13-09 10:18 PM |
#64 |
  
Maybe in small school systems, but most certainly not in NYC... |
George II |
Aug-13-09 08:38 AM |
#53 |
 
Opportunities for corruption and inefficiency are exponentially higher now. |
Smarmie Doofus |
Aug-13-09 12:36 PM |
#57 |
 
Thanks for the post. |
madfloridian |
Aug-13-09 06:35 PM |
#60 |
 
"Opportunities for corruption and inefficiency are exponentially higher now." ?? |
George II |
Aug-13-09 10:15 PM |
#63 |
 
Wow. You are *out* there. |
Smarmie Doofus |
Aug-13-09 11:12 PM |
#66 |
 
I followed your suggestion, googled "NYC+DOE+DOI" and the result - STILL "Zero"! |
George II |
Aug-13-09 11:22 PM |
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Google "NYC"+"DOE"+"Richard J. Condon" |
Smarmie Doofus |
Aug-13-09 11:57 PM |
#68 |
 
Did your new search (how many until we get substance?), and got a report..... |
George II |
Aug-14-09 12:07 AM |
#70 |
 
Your point was that there was "zero" corruption in the school system... |
Smarmie Doofus |
Aug-14-09 12:18 AM |
#72 |
 
Cheating on time is not considered "corruption", which is why that word was not used in the report.. |
George II |
Aug-14-09 12:19 AM |
#73 |
 
Self-Delete (Dupe) |
Dinger |
Aug-12-09 11:00 AM |
#18 |
 
I Beg To Differ: |
Dinger |
Aug-12-09 11:52 AM |
#19 |
  
look, a lot of oxen were gored. they deserved to be gored. |
mopinko |
Aug-12-09 08:53 PM |
#35 |
 
Do you mean he taught somewhere else in a non-union position? |
Smarmie Doofus |
Aug-12-09 09:35 PM |
#37 |
  
i mean that it was about tribal bullshit. |
mopinko |
Aug-12-09 10:16 PM |
#38 |
   
Well, why not put him on the Supreme Court, then? |
Smarmie Doofus |
Aug-12-09 11:34 PM |
#44 |
  
Exactly! If his father was a surgeon, does that qualify Arne to remove your appendix? |
DailyGrind51 |
Aug-15-09 08:30 PM |
#94 |
  
Arne Duncan has no certification of any kind, not as a teacher, or administrator! |
DailyGrind51 |
Aug-14-09 07:22 PM |
#88 |
 
Touché DailyGrind |
Dinger |
Aug-14-09 07:36 PM |
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Thank you! |
DailyGrind51 |
Aug-15-09 09:09 AM |
#91 |
 
Got it. Chicago schools are now great. Where did Mr and Mrs. Obama.... |
Smarmie Doofus |
Aug-12-09 11:25 PM |
#41 |
 
It is working in NYC (Mayoral control is not new in NYC) and it is working in Hartford, too! |
George II |
Aug-13-09 08:39 AM |
#54 |
 
if you like fascism, no parental input = great. yes, let us have no "untrained" or "uneducated" |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-28-09 02:59 AM |
#95 |

Duncan may want to invest in some sleeping pills. |
Fire1 |
Aug-12-09 10:58 AM |
#16 |

His Primary Focus Is Urban Schools. What About Rural Schools, Particularly Poor Ones? |
Dinger |
Aug-12-09 12:00 PM |
#20 |
 
you don't know arne's record, then. |
mopinko |
Aug-14-09 12:01 AM |
#69 |

Duncan=Messer, Public Schools=Mesee |
Dinger |
Aug-12-09 12:24 PM |
#22 |

Afternoon Kick (nt) |
Dinger |
Aug-12-09 04:29 PM |
#24 |
 
Thanks..... |
madfloridian |
Aug-12-09 04:49 PM |
#25 |

Thanks : ) |
Dinger |
Aug-12-09 05:53 PM |
#26 |

K and R. It's essentially about busting the unions. |
Smarmie Doofus |
Aug-12-09 05:54 PM |
#27 |
 
You nailed that one. nt |
LWolf |
Aug-12-09 07:00 PM |
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Thanks. That *was* pretty good ( he said, modestly.). |
Smarmie Doofus |
Aug-12-09 08:07 PM |
#32 |
 
Only Nixon could go to China, and only a Democrat can destroy the unions once and for all. |
QC |
Aug-12-09 10:35 PM |
#39 |
 
I think a little research is in order... |
George II |
Aug-13-09 08:41 AM |
#56 |

K&R |
Iwillnevergiveup |
Aug-12-09 06:12 PM |
#28 |

Rec. |
amandabeech |
Aug-12-09 06:58 PM |
#29 |
 
I agree 100% |
Dinger |
Aug-12-09 07:15 PM |
#31 |
 
Teachers I talk to seem stunned at the choice. |
madfloridian |
Aug-12-09 11:41 PM |
#45 |

I'm amazed at how long you've kept it up. |
amandabeech |
Aug-14-09 04:19 PM |
#86 |

Duncan pulled that same crap in Chicago! |
DailyGrind51 |
Aug-12-09 08:14 PM |
#33 |
 
Mayors in our area are judged, not by intelligence, but by religious views. |
madfloridian |
Aug-12-09 08:39 PM |
#34 |
 
and he has done a damn good job. |
mopinko |
Aug-12-09 08:54 PM |
#36 |

LOL |
Dinger |
Aug-12-09 11:27 PM |
#42 |

Credit your hard-working children and their dedicated I.S.B.E. certified teachers! |
DailyGrind51 |
Aug-15-09 04:05 PM |
#92 |

Night Kick (nt) |
Dinger |
Aug-12-09 10:41 PM |
#40 |

Dumping control of the schools into the lap of the mayors is stupid. |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-13-09 12:02 AM |
#46 |
 
You are very right. |
madfloridian |
Aug-14-09 12:25 AM |
#74 |

Mayor-King Bloomie |
Libertas1776 |
Aug-13-09 02:52 AM |
#48 |

How would you like a mayor like this to be in total charge of your schools? |
madfloridian |
Aug-13-09 02:42 PM |
#58 |

there is a difference between one person in control, and one |
mopinko |
Aug-13-09 09:54 PM |
#62 |
 
I could care less about the upset teachers I just don't think education should |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-14-09 12:15 AM |
#71 |

we had a super. his name was arne duncan. |
mopinko |
Aug-14-09 08:40 AM |
#76 |

More bipartisan education idiocy coming from Washington. |
MadHound |
Aug-14-09 07:00 AM |
#75 |
 
nobody is putting him in a classroom. |
mopinko |
Aug-14-09 08:45 AM |
#77 |

A "Chicago Reader" poster asked for local (Chicago) opinion on the appointment of Duncan: |
DailyGrind51 |
Aug-14-09 09:28 AM |
#78 |
 
Comment by comment analysis (mostly RW talking points or racist). |
ieoeja |
Aug-14-09 02:15 PM |
#85 |

republicans LOVE Duncan |
Dinger |
Aug-14-09 10:17 AM |
#80 |
 
"Duncan has personally fired over 2,000 African-American teachers" |
madfloridian |
Aug-14-09 11:10 AM |
#81 |

Sickening, Isn't It? |
Dinger |
Aug-14-09 11:22 AM |
#82 |

Another Kick From Me |
Dinger |
Aug-14-09 01:15 PM |
#83 |

self-delete |
Phx_Dem |
Aug-14-09 01:35 PM |
#84 |

NYC's School District is the Crookedest, Most Corrupt |
tonysam |
Aug-14-09 04:54 PM |
#87 |

Weekend Kick From Me |
Dinger |
Aug-15-09 09:04 AM |
#90 |

Saturday Night Kick |
Dinger |
Aug-15-09 06:55 PM |
#93 |