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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 01:08 PM
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37. No his claim using the word "never" is the stretch.
Edited on Tue Aug-11-09 01:09 PM by MNDemNY
stretched to the point of a lie.
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  -Obama said just now " I have never said I was in favor of a single payer pan" dixiegrrrrl  Aug-11-09 12:48 PM   #0 
  - Ah, false?  MNDemNY   Aug-11-09 12:49 PM   #1 
  - you seem unsure. do you think true or false?  PretzelWarrior   Aug-11-09 12:50 PM   #5 
     - Not unsure, confused by the silly question.  MNDemNY   Aug-11-09 12:58 PM   #25 
  - FALSE  Hutzpa   Aug-11-09 12:49 PM   #2 
  - you're lying.  PretzelWarrior   Aug-11-09 12:50 PM   #4 
     - your dreaming.  MNDemNY   Aug-11-09 12:53 PM   #13 
        - you're sleep walking.  Hutzpa   Aug-11-09 12:54 PM   #18 
           - maybe, but I am correct.  MNDemNY   Aug-11-09 12:55 PM   #19 
           - You both need to get laid.  Deja Q   Aug-11-09 12:55 PM   #21 
              - lol  Hutzpa   Aug-11-09 12:56 PM   #22 
              - potd!  AngryAmish   Aug-11-09 01:19 PM   #55 
  - TRUE! He said if we were starting from SCRATCH, he'd be for single payer  PretzelWarrior   Aug-11-09 12:49 PM   #3 
  - Unless you go back to his days before the Senate.  MNDemNY   Aug-11-09 12:51 PM   #7 
  - that's right- It's what I've always heard him say.  Bluerthanblue   Aug-11-09 12:51 PM   #8 
  - incremental towards what?  Newshues   Aug-11-09 12:54 PM   #16 
  - Wouldn't it be more cost-effective to start a new system from scratch?  Deja Q   Aug-11-09 12:54 PM   #17 
  - It's the difference between fixing a boat in drydock and fixing a boat while still sailing on it...  BlooInBloo   Aug-11-09 12:56 PM   #23 
  - How would you enroll 300,000,000 people all at once? Suggest a  JayMusgrove   Aug-11-09 03:41 PM   #68 
  - Ding! Ding! We have a winner...  SKKY   Aug-11-09 12:55 PM   #20 
  - So he favors it in a hypothetical situation, but he doesn't favor it overall?  Oregone   Aug-11-09 01:31 PM   #61 
  - BOTH  Dawgs   Aug-11-09 12:51 PM   #6 
  - Your popping the pretzel's bubble.  MNDemNY   Aug-11-09 12:52 PM   #11 
  - False. And that's why he got asked that question by a republican  Joanne98   Aug-11-09 12:52 PM   #9 
  - An article AND A YOUTUBE VIDEO  Deja Q   Aug-11-09 12:52 PM   #10 
  - Did he say "ever" or just since the health care debate has been going on  DrToast   Aug-11-09 12:53 PM   #12 
  - Completely false  DJ13   Aug-11-09 12:53 PM   #14 
  - It would disrupt not only his ability, but the ability of most of Congress  dflprincess   Aug-12-09 10:10 PM   #92 
  - "I happen to be a proponent -- of a single payer plan"  villager   Aug-11-09 12:53 PM   #15 
  - thanks! saved me some time. nt  create.peace   Aug-11-09 12:58 PM   #24 
  - that is not germane to what he's doing once he is running on the goald of health care reform  PretzelWarrior   Aug-11-09 01:00 PM   #26 
  - Earlier position on health care not germane to his current one?  villager   Aug-11-09 01:02 PM   #30 
  - power? Or political reality. look at the fucking psycho storm with what IS being presented.  PretzelWarrior   Aug-11-09 01:04 PM   #32 
  - i think you and your "reverse every progressive stance we have" crowd is a big reason  villager   Aug-11-09 01:08 PM   #36 
     - uhhhmmm...yeah. right. we already have more change than you guys admit  PretzelWarrior   Aug-11-09 01:15 PM   #47 
     - "buncha fucking whiners?" Projection much?  villager   Aug-11-09 01:21 PM   #57 
     - Exactly. Why would they listen to us - the health care industry buys the politicians  debbierlus   Aug-12-09 06:53 PM   #86 
  - I doubt it  Hutzpa   Aug-11-09 01:06 PM   #34 
  - why can't people here play along even for a fucking moment?  PretzelWarrior   Aug-11-09 01:09 PM   #38 
     - "play along" ?? No thank you, a lie is a lie. he should not lie.  MNDemNY   Aug-11-09 01:10 PM   # 
     - no. he's not lying. but neither is he content to stop at only a public option  PretzelWarrior   Aug-11-09 01:13 PM   #45 
        - Is that Rahm??  Hutzpa   Aug-11-09 01:15 PM   #48 
        - You jump to conclusions too fast.  MNDemNY   Aug-11-09 01:22 PM   #59 
     - Want me to play along  Hutzpa   Aug-11-09 01:12 PM   #43 
  - No it didn't. That was a video before he even ran for President--about 3 years before. n/t  vaberella   Aug-12-09 01:30 PM   #76 
  - No his claim using the word "never" is the stretch.  MNDemNY   Aug-11-09 01:08 PM   #37 
  - And a lie is a lie. That was a lie  Bluenorthwest   Aug-11-09 04:02 PM   #71 
  - Agreed.  Deja Q   Aug-11-09 01:10 PM   #40 
  - That was the argument people made against giving him credit for opposing the Iraq war.  JVS   Aug-11-09 01:21 PM   #58 
  - Some of the comments on some of the videos on that site  Bill219   Aug-11-09 01:01 PM   #28 
  - I'm not paying attention to that  Hutzpa   Aug-11-09 01:03 PM   #31 
  - Thanks for this n/t  Hutzpa   Aug-11-09 01:02 PM   #29 
  - delete  Phx_Dem   Aug-11-09 01:00 PM   #27 
  - True.... in hist time as Senator and President, he has never been for it...  scheming daemons   Aug-11-09 01:04 PM   #33 
  - EXACTLY!!!! n/t  vaberella   Aug-12-09 01:31 PM   #77 
  - I should have been more clear.  dixiegrrrrl   Aug-11-09 01:08 PM   #35 
  - yup!  Hutzpa   Aug-11-09 01:10 PM   #39 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-11-09 01:11 PM   #41 
        - I know  Hutzpa   Aug-11-09 01:14 PM   #46 
           - but your latest answer was to a clarification of the question  PretzelWarrior   Aug-11-09 01:16 PM   #49 
           - Nahhh  Hutzpa   Aug-11-09 01:18 PM   #54 
           - Please see my clarification in question # 35.  dixiegrrrrl   Aug-11-09 01:16 PM   #51 
  - Absolutely false.  BonnieJW   Aug-11-09 01:12 PM   #42 
  - "Doesn't he realize all this stuff is on video?"  ProSense   Aug-11-09 01:21 PM   #56 
  - *yawn*  BlooInBloo   Aug-11-09 01:12 PM   #44 
  - FALSE. He's always been pro-skillet. n/t  Writer   Aug-11-09 01:16 PM   #50 
  - good catch, Writer. lol.  PretzelWarrior   Aug-11-09 01:17 PM   #52 
  - One time.. in 2003... Obama said he was in favor of single payer. EVERY SINGLE TIME SINCE......  scheming daemons   Aug-11-09 01:18 PM   #53 
  - I recall him answering a question saying if he were starting from scratch he would like Single Payer  4_Legs_Good   Aug-11-09 01:24 PM   #60 
  - He didn't say that  Thrill   Aug-11-09 01:50 PM   #62 
  - What is a single payer pan?  Raine1967   Aug-11-09 01:53 PM   #63 
  - Oh lord...  dixiegrrrrl   Aug-11-09 02:04 PM   #64 
  - Yes, but I did think it was funny. I laughed anyway. nt  ItNerd4life   Aug-11-09 03:33 PM   #66 
  - You should have included this-  masuki bance   Aug-12-09 06:06 PM   #83 
  - Obama rejects socialized cookware!  gmoney   Aug-12-09 06:31 PM   #84 
  - WTF? We in DU can't even agree on what Obama believes or said?  ItNerd4life   Aug-11-09 03:32 PM   #65 
  - you're right. he's the one dredging videos from 2003. how bad of him.  PretzelWarrior   Aug-11-09 03:42 PM   #69 
  - I agree with this 100%  Seen the light   Aug-11-09 03:45 PM   #70 
  - You'd think DU would grasp the difference between the words "once" and "never"  JVS   Aug-12-09 01:24 PM   #74 
  - too many words..  stillcool   Aug-12-09 07:58 PM   #90 
  - I think all that eat "Pan" Pizza should all chip in  itsrobert   Aug-11-09 03:35 PM   #67 
  - left overs??  Hutzpa   Aug-11-09 04:18 PM   #72 
  - I can't recall him ever saying he was in favor of "single payer pans".  Hansel   Aug-11-09 04:25 PM   #73 
  - True. As a candidate the President NEVER supported single payer.  vaberella   Aug-12-09 01:28 PM   #75 
  - Politicians don't lie - they campaign. nt  Jakes Progress   Aug-12-09 01:44 PM   #78 
  - How is this dogged sticking to a quote from before the man was even in the Senate  TheKentuckian   Aug-12-09 01:55 PM   #79 
  - Because people don't like Obama. n/t  vaberella   Aug-12-09 05:16 PM   #81 
  - Depends on the meaning of the word "never"  Hippo_Tron   Aug-12-09 05:15 PM   #80 
  - I think the definition of never is pretty clear. It means NEVER  debbierlus   Aug-12-09 06:55 PM   #87 
     - On the other hand...  Hippo_Tron   Aug-12-09 08:08 PM   #91 
  - Well, if he never said it he damn well SHOULD have! nt  polichick   Aug-12-09 05:17 PM   #82 
  - Before he was in the Senate. As a Senator, Candidate, and President he has not.  vaberella   Aug-12-09 06:39 PM   #85 
  - I believe he did say it--but he also said during the campaign that  Arkana   Aug-12-09 07:03 PM   #88 
  - what he has said..  stillcool   Aug-12-09 07:55 PM   #89 
 

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